Any Eyebologists in the house?

[Sean the Nailer]

Hey ya'll,

As I have spoken some about, and alluded to in other threads, I am having an eye/vision issue that is apparently worsening. I'm not looking for a diagnosis here, but what I am doing is searching for a/some learned individual(s) to which I can bounce things off.

Yes, this is most definitely SHOOTING related, as it has A) prevented me from shooting with my dominant eye/dominant side, and now B) seems to be preventing me from shooting altogether.

Today at the range, I've experienced something to which I've never had happen before. No, I'm not talking about getting a bulls-eye, either.

I've been to an Optometrist. He sent me to an Ophthalmologist, who claimed he couldn't find anything, so there's nothing wrong. Upon my expressing of the problem, his only reply was "shoot left-handed". Upon going back to the Optometrist (whom at first suggested it was Macular Edema and sent me to the province's best at that), he is now sending me to a second specialist. No idea who that is, as I'm still waiting for the appointment call, with a date. No idea how long, either.

After what happened at the range today while shooting left handed (wrong-handed) it seems that my trigger-pulling days are on pause, until this is sorted out. So yeah, I'm looking for some types of input, and figured that this board is so vast in it's diversity, I just had to ask.

And no, this isn't anything so drivel as "what color interior should I order in my next truck" or "do these shoes make my ass look fat". I'm sure you know of the types/threads.

This here is directly involving and affecting my shooting, and/or ability to do so. Ergo, why I'm petitioning the membership. And to also prevent this from/for anyone else, in the future.

By all means, PM me if you prefer, and we can go from there. So that we don't clog up the 'Hide with this. Unless requested/suggested.

 

[sinister]

Re: Any Eyebologists in the house?

Please find an Opthalmologist (a board-certified Medical Doctor who specializes in eyeballs) who knows his ass from a hole in the ground.

An optical problem can only get worse and ultimately lead to blindness in that eye.

In the military we will call a time-out for life, limb, or eyesight.

Don't screw yourself -- NO JOKE do it AS SOON AS HUMANLY POSSIBLE! Something like a detached retina can be laser-tacked before shit tears apart and you're done.

 

[jwSubMOA]

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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: sinister</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Please find an Opthalmologist (a board-certified Medical Doctor who specializes in eyeballs) who knows his ass from a hole in the ground.

An optical problem can only get worse and ultimately lead to blindness in that eye.

In the military we will call a time-out for life, limb, or eyesight.

Don't screw yourself -- NO JOKE do it AS SOON AS HUMANLY POSSIBLE! Something like a detached retina can be laser-tacked before shit tears apart and you're done. </div></div>



I'm with Sinister go now and find the best specialist possible!After I woke up following my motorcycle accident my vision in my right eye didn't seem right.I wound up having a bleed into the vitreous(jelly) of the eye,almost completly blinding me.I had surgery about 3 months ago and it was almost perfect right away.You don't give your symptoms but it may be something easily correctable.My doctor was Dr. Chaum at University of Tennessee Hamilton Eye Clinic in Memphis TN.Perhaps his office could point you to someone to help.PM if I can help.

 

[Greg Langelius *]

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First thing (and I know this gonna sound real hokey), take a break.

Second thing, there is more to vision than just eyeballs. There is a condition called 'brain attack' (Transitory Neurovascular Ischemia) that plays temporary hobb with the sensory systems.

Others, like Cerebrovascular Insufficiency, can have more lasting effects. My Mom had the latter, and it's not nice. Kinda like Alzheimers, but without the Alzheimers.

It can be surgically corrected, as was the case with Robert A. Heinlein. In my Mom's instance it was diagnosed too late, after cerebral atrophy had become irreversible.

Greg

 

[Sean the Nailer]

Re: Any Eyebologists in the house?

Gentlemen,

I thank you for your input and additions. Let me give you the short version:

About a year ago, I started noticing a "slash" in the center of my vision (right eye). In that slash was also missing picture. As in, if someone had folded a crease into photograph, whatever was in that crease was "removed" from what I saw. And that crease is my slash.

(you get all that?)

So now yesterday, whilst shooting Wrong-Handed, practicing for the Provincials, I did it all with my right eye closed. This is because it is the dominant eye. Upon completion I opened it, and everything was blurry. So blurry in fact, that I actually touched a finger to my glasses, to make sure the lense hadn't popped out. Then I closed my left, and only looking with my right, not only was things blurry as heck, (uncorrectedly?) but also doubled. Double vision out of one eye, now that's an interesting game.

Try that sometime.

So yes, most definitely, the "break" is in full effect, until further notice.

We left the range, immediately, and went to the Optometrists shop but it/he was closed. As expected at 6:00 on a friday.

It was about 9:00 last night where the right vision cleared up mostly, but it is still blurry by about 20%.

It's the weekend, so I have no option but to wait until monday morning, as this isn't anything that would be dealt with or even looked at, in an Emergency clinic.

My vision is critical to me, but others who're bleeding or breathing funny are critical'r than me.

Is this an issue cause by the motorcycle accident? 4 years ago. Concussive injuries really kicked the crap out of me, let me tell you. Actually, I'd tell you, but I don't remember.

 

[jwSubMOA]

Re: Any Eyebologists in the house?

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Sean the Nailer</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Gentlemen,

I thank you for your input and additions. Let me give you the short version:

About a year ago, I started noticing a "slash" in the center of my vision (right eye). In that slash was also missing picture. As in, if someone had folded a crease into photograph, whatever was in that crease was "removed" from what I saw. And that crease is my slash.

(you get all that?)

So now yesterday, whilst shooting Wrong-Handed, practicing for the Provincials, I did it all with my right eye closed. This is because it is the dominant eye. Upon completion I opened it, and everything was blurry. So blurry in fact, that I actually touched a finger to my glasses, to make sure the lense hadn't popped out. Then I closed my left, and only looking with my right, not only was things blurry as heck, (uncorrectedly?) but also doubled. Double vision out of one eye, now that's an interesting game.

Try that sometime.

So yes, most definitely, the "break" is in full effect, until further notice.

We left the range, immediately, and went to the Optometrists shop but it/he was closed. As expected at 6:00 on a friday.

It was about 9:00 last night where the right vision cleared up mostly, but it is still blurry by about 20%.

It's the weekend, so I have no option but to wait until monday morning, as this isn't anything that would be dealt with or even looked at, in an Emergency clinic.

My vision is critical to me, but others who're bleeding or breathing funny are critical'r than me.

Is this an issue cause by the motorcycle accident? 4 years ago. Concussive injuries really kicked the crap out of me, let me tell you. Actually, I'd tell you, but I don't remember. </div></div>


Yes the entire issue was from the accident.I woke up in the hospital 6 weeks after the wreck with a feeding tube and trach and collar around my neck.I also was missing my right leg and left arm so I was focused on that and thought there was some piece of equipment in front of my eye.It took about another 3 weeks for them to remove the feeding tube and collar.At that point I knew my eye was screwed up.The optometrists came and said I needed to see a retinal specialist and that once I was out of the hospital to make an appointment.I got home in October 09 and after the first of the year got an appointment.Dr.Chaum believed it was a hemorrage into the eye and hopefully no retinal damage.The surgery took about an hour and once the bandage came off it was nearly normal again.Since then it has just gotten better.I hope such is the case for you and if I can help just holler.

 

[Ghogs Nightmare]

Re: Any Eyebologists in the house?

Dont let the weekend hinder you. IF you feel ya need it go to the ER they have Doc's on call.
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I had my eyeball dremeled in the ER last year and then did a follow up with my eye doc later in the week.
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IF its a decent ER they'll call someone in to look at it right away. I can tolerate some pain but vision is one thing i dont fock with.

 

[sunburned]

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Maybe useful:
http://www.starreloaders.com/edhall/nwongarts.html

 

[The Mechanic]

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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: sunburned</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Maybe useful:
http://www.starreloaders.com/edhall/nwongarts.html</div></div>

Thank you for that link. I think you may have found the problem I have been having for about a year now. I seem to be having a problem with dry eyes. They blur, real out of focus sometimes but if I open my eyes to the water in the shower and (wash) my eyes or rub them aggressively they seem to come back into focus. I am going to give his two suggestions a try. Soothe XP Extra and Mini Drops.
I will let you guys know how they work.

 

[Sean the Nailer]

Re: Any Eyebologists in the house?

Mechanic, I am glad that this thread is useful to others, as well.

 

[macthknife]

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Sean. Be sure to keep us updated on Your progress. It may prove to be invaluable to some of us old farts. I have had eye issues while shooting also, but it proved to be relatively minor. I am however, keeping an eye on the future.

 

[Sean the Nailer]

Re: Any Eyebologists in the house?

Old Farts?

OLD FARTS?????

Who're you calling OLD? I'm only gonna be 42 in a few months,,,,, I still gots at least 2/3rds of my life ahead of me!!!!!!!!!

But yeah, for YOU old guys, I've no problem helping "head things off at the pass" so's ya'll benefit from my grief. Seems everyones benefiting from my grief's. I'm just a helpful guy that way.

Edited to add, upon further research of that link I will be asking about "The Troxler Effect". Interesting Concept. I ain't saying it is, but I will say this:

As has been stated MANY times, I am working with my NON-dominant eye. As such, I gotta keep my dominant (r) eye closed. This is/has been getting easier to do.

During the last range session, I had just kept the eye closed for what I would guess is 20 to 25 minutes. Constant/steady wink, while I was sighing, reloading, and jotting notes. Cause I am trying to make the left, dominant.

And yes, while I was pulling the trigger, I was stopping breathing. Just for a short time. But I was stopping. Always been taught to do that.

And the rest, as oft quoted, is history. Maybe that has something to do with it? Hopefully, I'll find out more tomorrow. Unorthodox, but I WILL be just showing up, and saying "Hi, I'm here, Entertain me".

 

[Sean the Nailer]

Re: Any Eyebologists in the house?

My "eye-dude" has not heard of the words "Troxler Effect" but he did state that by closing/squeezing my right eye shut is probably the issue.

Doing so, for so long, does change the shape of the cornea thereby changing all the angles and the dangles. Hence my blurry vision. Depending on how long or how distorted it is, will dictate how long it takes to "squish back to normal" (my words). So there you have it. So far, nothing much to worry about, and still waiting for further specialists regarding the optic nerve/brain interface possibility. The did the "inner eye" pictures again today, with nothing obvious.

So I'm back to shooting, "wrong-handed", and looking for a patch. Just gotta tie a chicken onto my shoulder for the full look, as I already walk with a limp and a cane. Wooden cane. That close enough?

(for those slow to catch on,,,, this is me 'not worrying' and being positive, and upbeat about this 'lack of issue')

What say's you?