Any1 use XLR's mercury recoil redux kit?

[garandman]

Is it just a gimmick, or does it work? Admittedly, I'll be a recoil wuss. For 6.5CM and 224 Valkyrie. Mostly want to be able to see the reticle / target after gun fires.

Anyone with firsthand experience? TIA.

Mercury Recoil Reduction Weight Kit

The XLR Mercury Recoil Suppressor is now available for all XLR buttstocks. This tube fits inside all our buffer tubes to aid in recoil management and add weight to balance rifles perfectly.

xlrindustries.com

 

[b6graham]

one of my friends machined his own from steel stock. balances very nicely now with a 28" 1.06" bull barrel

no moving parts on his just solid weight.

 

[Steel head]

With those two calibers seeing your shot should not be a problem anyway.

 

[garandman]

With those two calibers seeing your shot should not be a problem anyway.

I might be doing something wrong, but the 6.5CM jumps pr etty good. Enuf to lose the target in the reticle. Not shooting a super hot load either. Thinking about / looking for a precision rifle class. I've managed to get sub half MoA on my own. I might be awesome with some legit instruction.

 

[drwood96]

I currently run it in my Envy chassis in 6.5CM to help balance the rifle. Big improvement in recoil, no. It has the same effect of adding weight else where on the chassis. I believe the mercury part is a benefit on 6.5 and larger calibers. On the 6.5CM, the mercury part helps to smooth out the recoil impulse to more of a push than a punch.

 

[spife7980]

I might be doing something wrong, but the 6.5CM jumps pr etty good. Enuf to lose the target in the reticle. Not shooting a super hot load either. Thinking about / looking for a precision rifle class. I've managed to get sub half MoA on my own. I might be awesome with some legit instruction.

If at first you dont succeed zoom out.

Muzzle brake can help control the muzzle hop, heavier rifle can eat it up as well. Load the bipod by leaning into it a bit, not enough to strain th elegs, just enough to take the slack out. Make/pack your rear bag firm enough that it can maintain itself but not so packed that the rifle bounces off it.

 

[garandman]

If at first you dont succeed zoom out.

Muzzle brake can help control the muzzle hop, heavier rifle can eat it up as well. Load the bipod by leaning into it a bit, not enough to strain th elegs, just enough to take the slack out. Make/pack your rear bag firm enough that it can maintain itself but not so packed that the rifle bounces off it.

Free learnin'.... thanx!

Its suppressed, so the brake is inside the can.

I'll try the rest of it next range session. Admittedly, I tend to think of the ability to zoom in as necessary for making tiny ittle groups.

 

[Fig]

These have been around for 100 years for shotguns. I have an old Ithaca pump with one in the stock that some ancestor installed. Basic physics tells me it's no more effective than a solid weight of the same weight. The only reason I see for mercury is so you can increase or decrease it. Oddly the one I have is sealed.

 

[spife7980]

Free learnin'.... thanx!

Its suppressed, so the brake is inside the can.

I'll try the rest of it next range session. Admittedly, I tend to think of the ability to zoom in as necessary for making tiny ittle groups.

It also narrows your field of view and and the narrower the field of view is the harder it is to maintain sight picture. Just like when shooting in heavy mirage, something has to give. Either your magnification or your ability to self spot.

The benchrest guns are big and heavy and put into bags so that they can only really move rearward in one way and that lets them keep the gun in the same position for itty bitty groups. For field rifles you have a lot more work to do to maintain the riles position since you dont have the mechanical bench devices to aid you.

In this video notice how when the rifle moves reaward as in recoil its still on target.


Without seeing you shoot personally its tough to tell you exactly where you are deficient in recoil control.
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[brianf]

the mercury reducers are not "full"
the idea is that the weight is fluid/movable yet very dense absorbing some of the energy being transmitted
theory is, pound for pound a energy absorbing/movable weight will reduce energy transmission better than adding static weight

 

[garandman]

Thanx for the help.

For load development, I use this front rest

and a rear bag with "ears." SO I can be sure as possible its the load / gun thats "showing" and not shooter error. Yesterday I was getting pretty consistent 0.379 - 0.580 groups.

Once I'm sure I got my load right, I move to a bipod / rear bag.

Several knee injuries made prone difficul and PRS matches impossible. Mostly, I shoot off a bench.

Bags are pretty solid, but recoil absorbing.

 

[spife7980]

For bench shooting with bags these are some good tips

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[chevy_man]

Seems to work great in shotguns. I know my supernova doesn't beat me up nearly as bad as a Nova. However, they did add a bit of flex to the butt stock along the Mercury.


You may want to play with bags and positions. Most any straight line recoil style chassis shouldn't want to jump unless you're not behind it quite right.

 

[_Raining]

Thanx for the help.

For load development, I use this front rest

and a rear bag with "ears." SO I can be sure as possible its the load / gun thats "showing" and not shooter error. Yesterday I was getting pretty consistent 0.379 - 0.580 groups.

Once I'm sure I got my load right, I move to a bipod / rear bag.

Several knee injuries made prone difficul and PRS matches impossible. Mostly, I shoot off a bench.

Bags are pretty solid, but recoil absorbing.

I have found that front bags on a non benchrest rifle to be bait. In my experience, the rifle can roll under recoil unless you have a wide flat forend made for riding bags. In my case specifically it is a Manners T5A Stock, I was getting better groups with a bipod then with a front rest until I put this: (http://forum.accurateshooter.com/threads/3-front-bag-rider-for-picatinny-rail-rpr-ar15-etc.3957175/) on it. The gap in the middle helps prevent the rifle front canting over time as the sand in the bag tends to migrate towards the middle (I previously had this perfectly flat one from brownells and I was having to adjust the front rest constantly to level the rifle but much much less so with the bag rider from the gentleman on accurate shooter).

I had also been given advice to get a bag rider to actually match the rabbit ears rear bag, for instance the Manners stock isn't a perfect inverse of my protektor rear bag so there is a chance for some play in it. I had a co-worker make a wood bag rider for my KRG X Ray chassis that fits insanely well in the bag but I have not been to the range since so I can't say how much better it is then the square plastic one from KRG (or if it is even better in my hands). But if you place both bag riders in the bag and wiggle them around, the inverse is crazy solid as expected.

That being said, it doesn't guarantee amazing groups. I have never gotten my 10 shot group average below .7 MOA and I see a lot of people saying they consistently get sub 1/2 MOA groups and they are using a bipod and rear squeeze bag.

 

[garandman]

That being said, it doesn't guarantee amazing groups. I have never gotten my 10 shot group average below .7 MOA and I see a lot of people saying they consistently get sub 1/2 MOA groups and they are using a bipod and rear squeeze bag.

Two things male shooters lie about all the time..... one of them is how small their groups are.