Anybody watching Ted Vs Beto right now

[W54/XM-388]

Hi,

@W54/XM-388
Main problem with your possible explanation is that she parked on his floor and went direct to his door so she doesn't know if he is even up, much less making noise to keep her awake.

Sincerely,
Theis

That's going to be interesting to see how that plays out.
Did she go to her apartment, get upset then decide to drive to his place or did she directly drive to his floor?

If she directly drove to his floor, then it's going to look like she came straight from work to confront him...
The whole initial lie about "I thought it was my apartment" is pretty shot to pieces based on:
The apartment numbers being clearly lit up on the side of the apartment
He had a distinctive red decorative mat out front so everybody knew it was his & she didn't have such outside hers
The doors to the apartment are apparently security fire rated doors that automatically swing shut when let go (maybe lock?) so the finding an open door thing also falls down.
The witnesses hearing the banging on the door repeatedly and repeated statements of "let me in" or such...

It's going to be interesting seeing how the stories and possibilities keep twisting and turning..
So many don't realize often the coverup makes things way worse than just the raw truth.

 

[Deleted member 113831]

Hi,

So did she "Intend" to shoot him or did she not "intend" to shoot him?
And if she did "Intend" to shoot him, did she what that to kill him?

So lets go with her version of the story for a minute and I quote:
"He refused my orders so I drew my pistol and shot him"------Was that "Intentional"?

@Skookum -- Do you work for a town, county or state LE entity? I thought you worked for a railroad company......Did I bump my head and have you confused with someone else lol?

You "Good" cops have to stop attempting to excuse, justify, etc etc events like these. This is what is causing the every day joe blow public to think the entire LEO community is bad (We know it is not), but this type of situation is what is driving that thought bus.
The PBA or whatever the Police Union is in Dallas should have come out and publicly dropped her like a hot rock; as should have EVERY "Good" LEO.

Sincerely,
Theis

Yes, I am a LEO. No, I don't work for a railroad.

I have no idea what this officer has offered as an explanation. I am not following the story. If you go back and re-read all my comments, all I have stood up for is due process and the rights of all involved...including the accused.

She may very well be guilty of murder one, and if so, she should get a needle, and get it promptly.

The real problem here is the mob mentality and the speed with which otherwise rational people give in to passion and throw out all those constitutional protections they so often crow about.

 

[THEIS]

Hi,

Damn..you should play the lottery----what are the chances of your same forum name being used on another shooting forum by someone else? Those odds have to be greater than you being able to win the lottery and retire from LE

The same kind of "mob" mentality of the Blue Line attempting to make the victim the bad guy in this incident?
Same "mob" mentality of the Blue Line constantly attempting to excuse and/or justify this incident?

That is the mob mentality that you as a good LEO need to view as the "real problem".

Sincerely,
Theis

 

[W54/XM-388]

I have no idea what this officer has offered as an explanation. I am not following the story. If you go back and re-read all my comments, all I have stood up for is due process and the rights of all involved...including the accused.

I might suggest if you get some extra time, you briefly read as much as you can on the case for your own interest. The reason is that this is probably going to be a very important touchstone case in how police relations are thought of going forward from both the view of the parties that always see the police as the enemy and the parties that almost always see the police as the good guys (such as myself)

The part that the individual officer who was off duty and not doing any official police business really messed up is a small part.

The actions of the department, the police union, the prosecutors and those who are supposed to run the police are going to be questioned hard as well as their kid glove treatment of the shooter and their treatment of the victim as well as many other missteps (such as searching the apartment of the victim and leaking findings to the press, but not bothering to search the apartment of the shooter?) And the more they continue their trying to sweep it under the rug and make it go away and keep stuff quiet, the more it is starting to blow up. As is so often the case, the actual incident is a small local tragedy.. but the cover up is what is going to make it a long term national point.

It's probably going to go on having a lot of discussion and you'll probably want to at least know the basics of it to understand what people are talking about and where they are coming from.

So much is unknown at this time, but I don't think it's going away anytime soon, especially once the criminal trial and civil lawsuit get started up in full force.

 

[Deleted member 113831]

I might suggest if you get some extra time, you briefly read as much as you can on the case for your own interest. The reason is that this is probably going to be a very important touchstone case in how police relations are thought of going forward from both the view of the parties that always see the police as the enemy and the parties that almost always see the police as the good guys (such as myself)

The part that the individual officer who was off duty and not doing any official police business really messed up is a small part.

The actions of the department, the police union, the prosecutors and those who are supposed to run the police are going to be questioned hard as well as their kid glove treatment of the shooter and their treatment of the victim as well as many other missteps (such as searching the apartment of the victim and leaking findings to the press, but not bothering to search the apartment of the shooter?) And the more they continue their trying to sweep it under the rug and make it go away and keep stuff quiet, the more it is starting to blow up. As is so often the case, the actual incident is a small local tragedy.. but the cover up is what is going to make it a long term national point.

It's probably going to go on having a lot of discussion and you'll probably want to at least know the basics of it to understand what people are talking about and where they are coming from.

So much is unknown at this time, but I don't think it's going away anytime soon, especially once the criminal trial and civil lawsuit get started up in full force.

So it's turning into a shit show huh? It doesn't surprise me. It just makes me sad.

 

[ArmyJerry]

It makes all of us sad and a bit pissed because it doesn't have to be this way.

So it's turning into a shit show huh? It doesn't surprise me. It just makes me sad.

So it's turning into a shit show huh? It doesn't surprise me. It just makes me sad.

 

[Crang]

Next time I am making a drinking game. A shot every time Beto says 254 counties.