Anyone tried pointing the 105 hybrid?
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Nope, 1/3 MOA is good enough for me and I have better thing to do than trying to win BR matches with a tac rifle but go ahead buddy.
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Based on the difficulty of the last PRS match at Rifles Only, in 5 years 1/3moa won't cut it, just like 5 years ago a skilled shooter was competitive with a 308, times change, so flyboy is on the right track to improve the consistency of his ammo, lets assume a 3% improvement in G1 BC = .563, but where pointing really shines is in bullet consistency which yields smaller groups at distance or in our game higher hit percentages.
Adams pointing the bullets in his 6.5 and I'm barely, like 3/10's, outrunning him at 1000 with a 6.
Plus he was beating the 6creed in wind.
It might be something that everyone is gonna have to do in a few more years.
Plus he was beating the 6creed in wind.
It might be something that everyone is gonna have to do in a few more years.
1/3 MOA huh? That's bench rest territory where the rifle is very heavy and fully supported by front rest and rear bag. With the exception of bench rest, a solid 1/2 MOA gun can win most any match: 1/2MOA being defined as 5-shots minimum at the distance you are competing at. I shoot a lot of 1K F-class and the better shooters barely hold 1 MOA of elevation over a 20-shot string. The best shooters hold 5/8-3/4 MOA elevation over a string.
Do I and shooters I know point bullets? Yes. But most of us consider it necessary only for long range shooting (800-1000). Everything matters at 1K. 600 and in and you can skip a few things...like pointing. This is analogous to why 100-200 yard benchrest shooters don't weigh powder charges during competition. At such a short distance, powder variations don't show up on target. As you stretch out the distance, powder charge consistency becomes crucial. The story is the same for bullet pointing.
There are plenty of top long-range shooters who do not point at all (not coincidently, they shoot Bergers), but I personally think it helps....at long range. It also depends on the bullet. Berger bullets are pretty hard to improve upon and you can just as easily make things worse by pointing incorrectly. Sierra bullets, on the other hand, benefit quite a bit from pointing the tips.
Of course, if you really have a lot of spare time, why not trim and then point? Or you can be like my friend who trims, points, trims, and points. I enjoy making fun of him, but he did just shoot a perfect score of 600-44X last weekend.....darn these obsessive compulsive types.
Sorting by bearing surface is another activity that matters not at mid-range, but actually makes a difference at long-range. In summary, I point bullets and sort by bearing surface for 1K shooting, but don't bother to do either for 600 and in. Hope that helps.
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From what I've read trimming meplat a reduces weight and therefore BC of the bullet.
Pointing them afterwords basically brings them back up to the original BC albeit with a more consistent bullet.
I'm interested in increasing BC overall.
Pointing them afterwords basically brings them back up to the original BC albeit with a more consistent bullet.
I'm interested in increasing BC overall.
I'm about to point about 500 105 Hybrid Bergers. Since I'm running these in a gas gun and not as fast as some of the bolt guys, the gain in BC is helpful. Shit, I'm just watching Sportscenter while I do it so why not?
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I'd skip the process and enjoy your free time.
I have a friend who built 4-5 custom guns last year, has 3 new Defiance actions right now, 4 more builds in the works. Right now he misses a shoot or 2 because he doesn't have ammo.
I don't know it I would mess with it on a gas gun. The bolt and carrier are going to fuck all your work up as soon as they slam the cartridge into the feed ramp.
I see why you'd think that but for all of the cartridges I've pulled because of a malfunction, not a single one of the pointed tips was damaged. Can't tell you exactly why (maybe the fatness of the 6mm Creed cartridge itself?) but no damage to the tips that I have seen.
