I am currently shooting 190s out of my R700P, with decent results. Best group so far was 4 shots measuring .375 MOA at 200 yds. I wanted to go a bit heavier for the distance, and the 210 SMK looks interesting, but damn expensive. Anyone with any experience with 210s?
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Re: Anyone try 210 SMKs in 300 WM?
If you don't like the price try the 208gr A-max. Better BC and cheaper.
If you don't like the price try the 208gr A-max. Better BC and cheaper.
Re: Anyone try 210 SMKs in 300 WM?
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Falar</div><div class="ubbcode-body">If you don't like the price try the 208gr A-max. Better BC and cheaper.</div></div>
Bingo!
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Falar</div><div class="ubbcode-body">If you don't like the price try the 208gr A-max. Better BC and cheaper.</div></div>
Bingo!
Re: Anyone try 210 SMKs in 300 WM?
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Falar</div><div class="ubbcode-body">If you don't like the price try the 208gr A-max. Better BC and cheaper. </div></div>
+1
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Falar</div><div class="ubbcode-body">If you don't like the price try the 208gr A-max. Better BC and cheaper. </div></div>
+1
Re: Anyone try 210 SMKs in 300 WM?
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Falar</div><div class="ubbcode-body">If you don't like the price try the 208gr A-max. Better BC and cheaper.</div></div>
Better BC? wasn't aware of that. Sierra Manual doesn't list BC, and doesn't have the 210 in there. You guys know where to find Sierra BC?
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Falar</div><div class="ubbcode-body">If you don't like the price try the 208gr A-max. Better BC and cheaper.</div></div>
Better BC? wasn't aware of that. Sierra Manual doesn't list BC, and doesn't have the 210 in there. You guys know where to find Sierra BC?
Re: Anyone try 210 SMKs in 300 WM?
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: palmik</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Falar</div><div class="ubbcode-body">If you don't like the price try the 208gr A-max. Better BC and cheaper.</div></div>
Better BC? wasn't aware of that. Sierra Manual doesn't list BC, and doesn't have the 210 in there. You guys know where to find Sierra BC? </div></div>
Sierra and Hornady list G1 BCs on their website.
That being said, G7 BC is a more accurate measurement and Brian Litz has measured many bullets including these and published their G7 BCs. The 208gr A-Max was the winner in the 210gr category with the Berger very close behind but much more expensive than both the SMK or A-max.
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: palmik</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Falar</div><div class="ubbcode-body">If you don't like the price try the 208gr A-max. Better BC and cheaper.</div></div>
Better BC? wasn't aware of that. Sierra Manual doesn't list BC, and doesn't have the 210 in there. You guys know where to find Sierra BC? </div></div>
Sierra and Hornady list G1 BCs on their website.
That being said, G7 BC is a more accurate measurement and Brian Litz has measured many bullets including these and published their G7 BCs. The 208gr A-Max was the winner in the 210gr category with the Berger very close behind but much more expensive than both the SMK or A-max.
Re: Anyone try 210 SMKs in 300 WM?
I tried the 208's amax's in my AI but could not get them to shoot and found out they are kind of finicky. I tried them in the lands,just
off the lands and way way of the lands to no avail. Sold them to a friend and he could not get them to shoot either. The only reason I tried them was because of there price having all ready been shooting the 210's just trying
to save a little dough. Big mistake you get what you pay for. Buy them
in the boxes of 500 that will save you some cash over the 50 count boxes.
I tried the 208's amax's in my AI but could not get them to shoot and found out they are kind of finicky. I tried them in the lands,just
off the lands and way way of the lands to no avail. Sold them to a friend and he could not get them to shoot either. The only reason I tried them was because of there price having all ready been shooting the 210's just trying
to save a little dough. Big mistake you get what you pay for. Buy them
in the boxes of 500 that will save you some cash over the 50 count boxes.
Re: Anyone try 210 SMKs in 300 WM?
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: johndoe</div><div class="ubbcode-body">I tried the 208's amax's in my AI but could not get them to shoot and found out they are kind of finicky. I tried them in the lands,just
off the lands and way way of the lands to no avail. Sold them to a friend and he could not get them to shoot either. The only reason I tried them was because of there price having all ready been shooting the 210's just trying
to save a little dough. Big mistake you get what you pay for. Buy them
in the boxes of 500 that will save you some cash over the 50 count boxes. </div></div>
Plenty of people other than you have had great results with A-max bullets so it isn't a case of paying more for better quality. With the A-max it is all about getting more for your money.
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: johndoe</div><div class="ubbcode-body">I tried the 208's amax's in my AI but could not get them to shoot and found out they are kind of finicky. I tried them in the lands,just
off the lands and way way of the lands to no avail. Sold them to a friend and he could not get them to shoot either. The only reason I tried them was because of there price having all ready been shooting the 210's just trying
to save a little dough. Big mistake you get what you pay for. Buy them
in the boxes of 500 that will save you some cash over the 50 count boxes. </div></div>
Plenty of people other than you have had great results with A-max bullets so it isn't a case of paying more for better quality. With the A-max it is all about getting more for your money.
Re: Anyone try 210 SMKs in 300 WM?
johndoe-
Every Amax I've ever shot (and there aren't many I haven't tried between 22 and 30 cal) does fantastic at 0.010-0.015" from the lands.
I had miserable results jamming them and jumping them more than 25 thou. The least finicky bullet match bullet that I've worked with is the Amax's, and as I said, I've shot
52's and 75's in 22cal, 105's in 6mm, 120, 123, 140 in 6.5mm, 162's in 7mm, 155, 178, 208's in 30 cal.
If you feel up to trying a few of them again, load the 208's 10-15 (no more) thou off the lands and see what you get. That point shoots very well in 3 different rifles of mine.
johndoe-
Every Amax I've ever shot (and there aren't many I haven't tried between 22 and 30 cal) does fantastic at 0.010-0.015" from the lands.
I had miserable results jamming them and jumping them more than 25 thou. The least finicky bullet match bullet that I've worked with is the Amax's, and as I said, I've shot
52's and 75's in 22cal, 105's in 6mm, 120, 123, 140 in 6.5mm, 162's in 7mm, 155, 178, 208's in 30 cal.
If you feel up to trying a few of them again, load the 208's 10-15 (no more) thou off the lands and see what you get. That point shoots very well in 3 different rifles of mine.
Re: Anyone try 210 SMKs in 300 WM?
During the time I was trying every trick in the book
to get them to shoot I researched other forums and
the problems people were having,seems like the general
consensus was the length of the bullet. Seems if I recall correctly
it was about 1/8 inch longer than the 210 smk which is allready
a long bullet.
Trying to save money I got bit as did the friend of mine who
bought the rest of the lot of 500 who could not get them to shoot.
I am sure you could buy more silver then gold for the same amount
of money but then it would just not be the same would it?
During the time I was trying every trick in the book
to get them to shoot I researched other forums and
the problems people were having,seems like the general
consensus was the length of the bullet. Seems if I recall correctly
it was about 1/8 inch longer than the 210 smk which is allready
a long bullet.
Trying to save money I got bit as did the friend of mine who
bought the rest of the lot of 500 who could not get them to shoot.
I am sure you could buy more silver then gold for the same amount
of money but then it would just not be the same would it?
Re: Anyone try 210 SMKs in 300 WM?
The Sierra 210 SMK is an excellent bullet, and I have had great results with it. The Sierra lists its BC as .645. The Hornady A-Max is also an excellent bullet. Its BC is listed as .648. I use both bullets over the same powder charge at 2,850 fps. The exterior ballistic data is interchangeable to 1K yards, and both bullets group sub-moa easily. The 210 SMK likes 0.070" jump in my rifle and the 208 A-Max likes 0.045".
At half the price I buy 208 A-Max's... easy decision.
Chops
The Sierra 210 SMK is an excellent bullet, and I have had great results with it. The Sierra lists its BC as .645. The Hornady A-Max is also an excellent bullet. Its BC is listed as .648. I use both bullets over the same powder charge at 2,850 fps. The exterior ballistic data is interchangeable to 1K yards, and both bullets group sub-moa easily. The 210 SMK likes 0.070" jump in my rifle and the 208 A-Max likes 0.045".
At half the price I buy 208 A-Max's... easy decision.
Chops
Re: Anyone try 210 SMKs in 300 WM?
+1 for the amax, I was die hard Sierra, but price was my biggest contributing factor to try the hype and have been pleasantly surprised.
+1 for the amax, I was die hard Sierra, but price was my biggest contributing factor to try the hype and have been pleasantly surprised.
Re: Anyone try 210 SMKs in 300 WM?
I took 2nd place at a 1000yd prone match this past sunday shooting 7mm 162gr A-Max's. Ive heard it from other people also, that they cant get them to shoot good in their gun, I think they are doing something wrong.
I took 2nd place at a 1000yd prone match this past sunday shooting 7mm 162gr A-Max's. Ive heard it from other people also, that they cant get them to shoot good in their gun, I think they are doing something wrong.
