I could not find trail boss, but I did get some red dot and I was told it was a decent choice for subsonic loads in 308. I have 200Gr Lapua Subsonic projectiles, lapua brass, magnum and non magnum CCI primers (some say use mag primers some say not to). I have a 20in Shilen BBL on a Rem700 action in a AICS chassis, if anyone knows a good starting point for this load using RED DOT, please let me know.