@Terry Cross since it seems possible with some tweaking (from what ive seen here so far) have you ever thought about it or the juice isnt worth the squeeze?
have you seen agencies and customers complain about 5 rd mags or its just pain in the ass customers and posters like me being a wanting everything lol
thanks
On a 2 lug action the AW mags have to be positioned as close as possible to the bolt patch without actually getting in the way.
Obviously the receiver has to be cut for the AW in the first place. Most of those AW mag cuts follow the original R&D Guardian design (remember Randy?).
In most action/bottom metal combos, if the mag latch is located high enough to position the AW mag for feeding, many of the AICS mags will not "click" into place before the feed lips contact the bolt body or the front of the mag hits the bottom of the receiver below the feed ramp.
I have not had anyone that actually uses their rifles for work complain about 5 round mags.
I would even venture to say that if PRS/NRL stayed within the original framework of stage design/intent instead of evolving into 8, 12, 14, etc. round stages, magazine capacity in a precision bolt gun would be super low in internet searches for aspiring new gun owners.
In the mean time, it is a burgeoning business opportunity for companies outfitting their sponsored shooters and trying to get into the latest poll of "what the pros use".
Here is the deal. Accuracy International magazines are dimensionally all over the place when several years worth of production is measured. That alone makes it hard to be specific on what will always work across the board. Then you take into account MDT, Accurate, MagPul and others that make clones of the Accuracy International. While all of those make very nice products, they individually bring in A LOT more variables because.........
Accuracy International does not and has not released dimensional prints or CAD of any of their magazines to anyone even when offering so sign NDAs, etc.
Accordingly anyone making bottom metal, clone magazines, etc. is making educated guesses and a bit of a gamble based on measured samples of Acc Intl. mags. I have been lucky to have very good experience already logged with the SENTINEL and LongSword DBMs when rolling out the conventional Mk1 and Mk2 DBMs so I have been very fortunate to see good results from users so far.
When it comes to a rifle that absolutely, positively HAS to feed at a critical time I will always push the users to stay with AICS pattern mags produced by Accuracy International over the AW pattern mags.
I still have customers wanting SENTINEL rifles shipped with AW mags but those guns are fitted to position the mag very close to the bolt path. Most either will not let AICS mags click into place or will do so reluctantly and with possible rub by the bolt body.
Most actions and most bottom metals can still be made to bind the bolt when pushing up on the magazine (with the weight of the rifle, not with fingers). Even if the front of the mag ceases vertical travel due to contact with the bottom of the receiver under the ramp, the rear of the mag can still tilt up and get the lips into conflict with the bolt. Only exceptions seem to be the combination of magazine X fitting into bottom metal Y very tightly so that the tilt is limited.
I have already cured the magazine overtravel issue with the Mk2 long action DBMs and the Gen II Mk1s are doing the same.
Everybody is going to have different ideas, opinions and experiences on this so take my ramblings with a grain of salt.
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