Bought an HBAR AR15, is there a way to adjust trigger pull, maybe a lighter spring, without buying a after market trigger. This thing must have 10-12 lbs pull. Wayne
AR15 TRIGGER
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JP makes different weight trigger springs. Here's a link to their 3 1/2# JP Springs and here are the 4 1/2# JP Springs
JP makes different weight trigger springs. Here's a link to their 3 1/2# JP Springs and here are the 4 1/2# JP Springs
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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: adluginb</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Send it to Bill Springfield </div></div>+1 on above. I havent tried it yet but on the exchange there is a guy selling the grip screw that has a screw inside it to lighten up the pull. I bought two of them for my H bars because I cant find the Colt match triggers I want.
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: adluginb</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Send it to Bill Springfield </div></div>+1 on above. I havent tried it yet but on the exchange there is a guy selling the grip screw that has a screw inside it to lighten up the pull. I bought two of them for my H bars because I cant find the Colt match triggers I want.
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Come on guys. Hows he suppose to know who or what the heck "Bill Springfield" is?
Bill Springfield at Triggerwork.net is probably one of the best mods you'll get for a stock trigger.
He will take your standard factory POS trigger, rework the parts necessary to make it smooth, crisp and remove a huge chunk of creep, and can hook you up with the 3.5lb JP springs giving you a wonderful 3-3.5 lb crisp breaking trigger for about $35. Mine took about 7 days door to door.
There are lots of other aftermarket triggers out there but they're going to cost you as much or more than a stripped lower will.
Come on guys. Hows he suppose to know who or what the heck "Bill Springfield" is?
Bill Springfield at Triggerwork.net is probably one of the best mods you'll get for a stock trigger.
He will take your standard factory POS trigger, rework the parts necessary to make it smooth, crisp and remove a huge chunk of creep, and can hook you up with the 3.5lb JP springs giving you a wonderful 3-3.5 lb crisp breaking trigger for about $35. Mine took about 7 days door to door.
There are lots of other aftermarket triggers out there but they're going to cost you as much or more than a stripped lower will.
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Yes sorry didn't explain better, Thanks c bass 16. Mine also only took about 6 days to get back and its awesome.
You can also buy the whole trigger group from him with his work already done. This is what I did for another build I did.
Yes sorry didn't explain better, Thanks c bass 16. Mine also only took about 6 days to get back and its awesome.
You can also buy the whole trigger group from him with his work already done. This is what I did for another build I did.
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There are a lot more problems with that trigger than just spring weight. The Colt geometry of a stock trigger will make a good trigger dificult to impossible. If you want a good trigger invest in a quality trigger group. My favorite are the Giessele Automatics but there are many other quaity parts available.
There are a lot more problems with that trigger than just spring weight. The Colt geometry of a stock trigger will make a good trigger dificult to impossible. If you want a good trigger invest in a quality trigger group. My favorite are the Giessele Automatics but there are many other quaity parts available.
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The Bill Springfield trigger job that others have mentioned is an excellent route to take if you don't want to spend or can't afford a purpose-built, high quality aftermarket trigger like the Geissele or similar triggers.
Bill does excellent work, offers fairly quick turnaround, and will do the work for you for around $55 + S&H.
The Bill Springfield trigger job that others have mentioned is an excellent route to take if you don't want to spend or can't afford a purpose-built, high quality aftermarket trigger like the Geissele or similar triggers.
Bill does excellent work, offers fairly quick turnaround, and will do the work for you for around $55 + S&H.
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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Longshotbml</div><div class="ubbcode-body">There are a lot more problems with that trigger than just spring weight. The Colt geometry of a stock trigger will make a good trigger dificult to impossible. If you want a good trigger invest in a quality trigger group. My favorite are the Giessele Automatics but there are many other quaity parts available. </div></div>
OP clearly said he didn't want to drop $300 on a trigger.
JP springs or send to Bill Springfield.
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Longshotbml</div><div class="ubbcode-body">There are a lot more problems with that trigger than just spring weight. The Colt geometry of a stock trigger will make a good trigger dificult to impossible. If you want a good trigger invest in a quality trigger group. My favorite are the Giessele Automatics but there are many other quaity parts available. </div></div>
OP clearly said he didn't want to drop $300 on a trigger.
JP springs or send to Bill Springfield.
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If you don't want to drop $300 on a trigger, drop $200 on a Geiselle SSA-E. Don't monkey around with the trigger. It's the heart of your AR. Bill Springfield's reworked triggers are nice, but after 1000 rounds or so, their longevity is a crap shoot. Of the three that I got (on his supplied parts) two went full auto at around the 1K round mark.
Cutting on trigger parts after the hardening process is just a gamble. Cutting the parts may or may not go through the hardening. If it does, going full auto is just a matter of time.
Going with light springs could work, but they are lighter springs and you may have problems with ammo that has hard primers.
If you don't want to spend the $200 for what many consider the best two stage service grade trigger, then look at the Rock River match trigger for around $100. Some have had bad luck with them, but they seem to be having better luck with them than the Springfield triggers.
If you don't want to drop $300 on a trigger, drop $200 on a Geiselle SSA-E. Don't monkey around with the trigger. It's the heart of your AR. Bill Springfield's reworked triggers are nice, but after 1000 rounds or so, their longevity is a crap shoot. Of the three that I got (on his supplied parts) two went full auto at around the 1K round mark.
Cutting on trigger parts after the hardening process is just a gamble. Cutting the parts may or may not go through the hardening. If it does, going full auto is just a matter of time.
Going with light springs could work, but they are lighter springs and you may have problems with ammo that has hard primers.
If you don't want to spend the $200 for what many consider the best two stage service grade trigger, then look at the Rock River match trigger for around $100. Some have had bad luck with them, but they seem to be having better luck with them than the Springfield triggers.
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Not a fan of the Springfield trigger. They're great when new, but after some rounds, they start to become unreliable. Twice, I've had them start doubling shots. Now, I use Geiselle's triggers and have never had a problem.
I do plan to try either a Wilson or a Timney for a .308 that I just built. Hope to see how those turn out.
Not a fan of the Springfield trigger. They're great when new, but after some rounds, they start to become unreliable. Twice, I've had them start doubling shots. Now, I use Geiselle's triggers and have never had a problem.
I do plan to try either a Wilson or a Timney for a .308 that I just built. Hope to see how those turn out.
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I have a McCormick trigger group in my Colt HBAR and I like it. I have had Bill Springfield work on other triggers such as a SKS and I also like his work. I guess it really depends on how much money you want to spend to achieve your desired result.
I have a McCormick trigger group in my Colt HBAR and I like it. I have had Bill Springfield work on other triggers such as a SKS and I also like his work. I guess it really depends on how much money you want to spend to achieve your desired result.
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I have Geiselle's and Bill Springfield-done triggers. Both serve a purpose.
Parts aren't forever, when either type 'goes' I'll pop it out and replace it with another.
I have Geiselle's and Bill Springfield-done triggers. Both serve a purpose.
Parts aren't forever, when either type 'goes' I'll pop it out and replace it with another.
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I forgot to mention the McCormick. It's a really nice trigger. I just thought that they were discontinued. You could get luck and find one. Nothing wrong with Timney either.
I forgot to mention the McCormick. It's a really nice trigger. I just thought that they were discontinued. You could get luck and find one. Nothing wrong with Timney either.
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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: TonyAngel</div><div class="ubbcode-body">If you don't want to drop $300 on a trigger, drop $200 on a Geiselle SSA-E. Don't monkey around with the trigger. It's the heart of your AR. Bill Springfield's reworked triggers are nice, but after 1000 rounds or so, their longevity is a crap shoot. Of the three that I got (on his supplied parts) two went full auto at around the 1K round mark.
Cutting on trigger parts after the hardening process is just a gamble. Cutting the parts may or may not go through the hardening. If it does, going full auto is just a matter of time.
Going with light springs could work, but they are lighter springs and you may have problems with ammo that has hard primers.
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+1 to all that. Dry firing a bunch will really help, then step up to Geissele. Anything in between is wasted, IMHO.
ETA: Geissele plans to release a budget trigger for about $125 this year. This will be a game changer for such a huge market that wants better than mil but can't spend $200.
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: TonyAngel</div><div class="ubbcode-body">If you don't want to drop $300 on a trigger, drop $200 on a Geiselle SSA-E. Don't monkey around with the trigger. It's the heart of your AR. Bill Springfield's reworked triggers are nice, but after 1000 rounds or so, their longevity is a crap shoot. Of the three that I got (on his supplied parts) two went full auto at around the 1K round mark.
Cutting on trigger parts after the hardening process is just a gamble. Cutting the parts may or may not go through the hardening. If it does, going full auto is just a matter of time.
Going with light springs could work, but they are lighter springs and you may have problems with ammo that has hard primers.
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+1 to all that. Dry firing a bunch will really help, then step up to Geissele. Anything in between is wasted, IMHO.
ETA: Geissele plans to release a budget trigger for about $125 this year. This will be a game changer for such a huge market that wants better than mil but can't spend $200.
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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: TonyAngel</div><div class="ubbcode-body">If you don't want to drop $300 on a trigger, drop $200 on a Geiselle SSA-E. Don't monkey around with the trigger. It's the heart of your AR. Bill Springfield's reworked triggers are nice, but after 1000 rounds or so, their longevity is a crap shoot. Of the three that I got (on his supplied parts) two went full auto at around the 1K round mark.
Cutting on trigger parts after the hardening process is just a gamble. Cutting the parts may or may not go through the hardening. If it does, going full auto is just a matter of time.
Going with light springs could work, but they are lighter springs and you may have problems with ammo that has hard primers.
If you don't want to spend the $200 for what many consider the best two stage service grade trigger, then look at the Rock River match trigger for around $100. Some have had bad luck with them, but they seem to be having better luck with them than the Springfield triggers. </div></div>
SSA-E is excellent, I can't imagine an AR trigger getting any better.
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: TonyAngel</div><div class="ubbcode-body">If you don't want to drop $300 on a trigger, drop $200 on a Geiselle SSA-E. Don't monkey around with the trigger. It's the heart of your AR. Bill Springfield's reworked triggers are nice, but after 1000 rounds or so, their longevity is a crap shoot. Of the three that I got (on his supplied parts) two went full auto at around the 1K round mark.
Cutting on trigger parts after the hardening process is just a gamble. Cutting the parts may or may not go through the hardening. If it does, going full auto is just a matter of time.
Going with light springs could work, but they are lighter springs and you may have problems with ammo that has hard primers.
If you don't want to spend the $200 for what many consider the best two stage service grade trigger, then look at the Rock River match trigger for around $100. Some have had bad luck with them, but they seem to be having better luck with them than the Springfield triggers. </div></div>
SSA-E is excellent, I can't imagine an AR trigger getting any better.
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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: muleman</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Bought an HBAR AR15, is there a way to adjust trigger pull, maybe a lighter spring, without buying a after market trigger. This thing must have 10-12 lbs pull. Wayne</div></div>
junk the gorilla springs for yellow jp springs
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: muleman</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Bought an HBAR AR15, is there a way to adjust trigger pull, maybe a lighter spring, without buying a after market trigger. This thing must have 10-12 lbs pull. Wayne</div></div>
junk the gorilla springs for yellow jp springs
