Suppressors ATF takes forever
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the can is great too, it is a AAC 7.62 SDN-6 and it goes on my ar-15 thats chambered in 300 blackout, the damn thing is more quiet than my paintball gun, also it is set up to go on my M40 in .308, soon I'm going to shoot it at around 500 to see how bad it will reduce accuracy being that it is a quick detach hopefully it shouldn't be bad it seems to lock up pretty tight
the can is great too, it is a AAC 7.62 SDN-6 and it goes on my ar-15 thats chambered in 300 blackout, the damn thing is more quiet than my paintball gun, also it is set up to go on my M40 in .308, soon I'm going to shoot it at around 500 to see how bad it will reduce accuracy being that it is a quick detach hopefully it shouldn't be bad it seems to lock up pretty tight
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I'm curious as to what they actually do, and why it takes so long? Is it just a massive stack of paper from people wanting to get suppressors that it takes that long to get to yours?
Once they do grab your app from the stack, what then do they actually do with it, and how long does that portion of the process really take?
I'm about to get my first...finally broke down and decided to do it, even though I hate parting with that much dough and waiting....
I'm curious as to what they actually do, and why it takes so long? Is it just a massive stack of paper from people wanting to get suppressors that it takes that long to get to yours?
Once they do grab your app from the stack, what then do they actually do with it, and how long does that portion of the process really take?
I'm about to get my first...finally broke down and decided to do it, even though I hate parting with that much dough and waiting....
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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: TenZero</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Lucky you. I sent mine in march 15th, and I got my rejection letter yesterday. My SSN was not on the fingerprint card. @&$)?&@!!
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Did they reject it? Or send you a correction letter?
The general consensus is that you are within a coupe of weeks of getting your paperwork if they ask you to correct something.
I just received a correction letter last week for a missing "Certification of Compliance" form. Luckily I called the Examiner and she let me fax it back.
Faxing is probably not going to help on a fingerprint card though.
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: TenZero</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Lucky you. I sent mine in march 15th, and I got my rejection letter yesterday. My SSN was not on the fingerprint card. @&$)?&@!!
Did they reject it? Or send you a correction letter?
The general consensus is that you are within a coupe of weeks of getting your paperwork if they ask you to correct something.
I just received a correction letter last week for a missing "Certification of Compliance" form. Luckily I called the Examiner and she let me fax it back.
Faxing is probably not going to help on a fingerprint card though.
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I still wonder if the backlog is manufactured to insure job security . . . ? ? ?
I still wonder if the backlog is manufactured to insure job security . . . ? ? ?
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The new examiner assistants are supposed to be helping but I think they are hindering the examiners from being as productive as they could be. Give them a stamp and let them help approve not check the trusts over and over. They send out more correction letters then approved forms a day.
The new examiner assistants are supposed to be helping but I think they are hindering the examiners from being as productive as they could be. Give them a stamp and let them help approve not check the trusts over and over. They send out more correction letters then approved forms a day.
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ATF has always had trouble with back logged paperwork. It has been more prominent lately due to the huge increase in public awareness of NFA and huge increases in NFA ownership. NFA branch had a hiring freeze so they have way fewer examiners than they need.
ATF has always had trouble with back logged paperwork. It has been more prominent lately due to the huge increase in public awareness of NFA and huge increases in NFA ownership. NFA branch had a hiring freeze so they have way fewer examiners than they need.
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The whole process being manual, and only have 10 examiners approving forms does not help. In a way we are our own worst enemies. Error letters slow the process down for everyone, and I have on good authority that the error letter percentage is between 25-40%.
Suppressors are just becoming more and more popular too. The internet has done a lot for educating people on all this stuff.
The whole process being manual, and only have 10 examiners approving forms does not help. In a way we are our own worst enemies. Error letters slow the process down for everyone, and I have on good authority that the error letter percentage is between 25-40%.
Suppressors are just becoming more and more popular too. The internet has done a lot for educating people on all this stuff.
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No shit!
My paperwork journey has a start date at the BATFE on 09 FEB 12 and I am still waiting!! WTF?
No shit!
My paperwork journey has a start date at the BATFE on 09 FEB 12 and I am still waiting!! WTF?
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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: jetmd</div><div class="ubbcode-body">No shit!
My paperwork journey has a start date at the BATFE on 09 FEB 12 and I am still waiting!! WTF? </div></div>
Keep waiting.
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: jetmd</div><div class="ubbcode-body">No shit!
My paperwork journey has a start date at the BATFE on 09 FEB 12 and I am still waiting!! WTF? </div></div>
Keep waiting.
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Right now Form 3s are taking us about 30 days to get back. Form 4s are in the 5-6 month range. According to ATF, they are hiring additional help and the wait time will reduced "significantly". I'm not holding my breath.
Right now Form 3s are taking us about 30 days to get back. Form 4s are in the 5-6 month range. According to ATF, they are hiring additional help and the wait time will reduced "significantly". I'm not holding my breath.
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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: J.Davis</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Right now Form 3s are taking us about 30 days to get back. Form 4s are in the 5-6 month range. According to ATF, they are hiring additional help and the wait time will reduced "significantly". I'm not holding my breath. </div></div>
They did this months ago....
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: J.Davis</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Right now Form 3s are taking us about 30 days to get back. Form 4s are in the 5-6 month range. According to ATF, they are hiring additional help and the wait time will reduced "significantly". I'm not holding my breath. </div></div>
They did this months ago....
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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: KYS338</div><div class="ubbcode-body">
They did this months ago.... </div></div>
yep, and still no changes in down time.
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: KYS338</div><div class="ubbcode-body">
They did this months ago.... </div></div>
yep, and still no changes in down time.
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I sent mine in 2 weeks ago. They cashed the check last week so I know they got it. Hopefully it will be closer to 5 months than 6. Tick-Tock....
I sent mine in 2 weeks ago. They cashed the check last week so I know they got it. Hopefully it will be closer to 5 months than 6. Tick-Tock....
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NFA has never been a game for impatient people. Some years back it was not uncommon to go a year before getting your forms back. Before the Obama scare it wasn't bad, I was sub-4 months on a number of forms IIRC, and my dealer was seeing Form 3s turned around in 24 hours sometimes.
NFA has never been a game for impatient people. Some years back it was not uncommon to go a year before getting your forms back. Before the Obama scare it wasn't bad, I was sub-4 months on a number of forms IIRC, and my dealer was seeing Form 3s turned around in 24 hours sometimes.
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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: skinney</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: KYS338</div><div class="ubbcode-body">
They did this months ago.... </div></div>
yep, and still no changes in down time. </div></div>
Actually, they have sped up by 1.5 months for us here.
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: skinney</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: KYS338</div><div class="ubbcode-body">
They did this months ago.... </div></div>
yep, and still no changes in down time. </div></div>
Actually, they have sped up by 1.5 months for us here.
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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: J.Davis</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Right now Form 3s are taking us about 30 days to get back. Form 4s are in the 5-6 month range. According to ATF, they are hiring additional help and the wait time will reduced "significantly". I'm not holding my breath. </div></div>
Last year my dealers form 3 for two of my supressors took a week and 7 months for my form 4. I ordered a suppressor over two months ago and I am still waiting for the form 3 to clear so I can just send in my form 4 paper work! It's getting absolutely rediculous! I'm starting to order supressors knowing it will basically be a year before I get them!
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: J.Davis</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Right now Form 3s are taking us about 30 days to get back. Form 4s are in the 5-6 month range. According to ATF, they are hiring additional help and the wait time will reduced "significantly". I'm not holding my breath. </div></div>
Last year my dealers form 3 for two of my supressors took a week and 7 months for my form 4. I ordered a suppressor over two months ago and I am still waiting for the form 3 to clear so I can just send in my form 4 paper work! It's getting absolutely rediculous! I'm starting to order supressors knowing it will basically be a year before I get them!
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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Conqueror</div><div class="ubbcode-body">ATF has always had trouble with back logged paperwork. It has been more prominent lately due to the huge increase in public awareness of NFA and huge increases in NFA ownership. NFA branch had a hiring freeze so they have way fewer examiners than they need. </div></div>
You'd think the revenue generated from the extortion fees would open up some extra examiner jobs.
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Conqueror</div><div class="ubbcode-body">ATF has always had trouble with back logged paperwork. It has been more prominent lately due to the huge increase in public awareness of NFA and huge increases in NFA ownership. NFA branch had a hiring freeze so they have way fewer examiners than they need. </div></div>
You'd think the revenue generated from the extortion fees would open up some extra examiner jobs.
