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Attached to the red flag law in NM

Are we talking civil or criminal liability? In this case he shouldn’t have either. Not personally. The department can probably take a ride for failure to train.

In the first case the video evidence tells me that cop did nothing wrong.

Society asks police to do shitty stuff don't always expect perfect outcomes and if he is acting in accordance with his training and the situation than who are we to blame.

The second one requires some testimony. If I have a dirt bike/quad bearing down on me I might shoot, it needs to be articulated what was going on.

Those that are responsible for the training or lack of are never held accountable.

It is also the history of the top to just payout when served - its only tax money, who cares?
 
I was talking about the original incident. I can’t watch the second video at work.

The party the cop interacted with took off from the scene and ended up getting shot further down the road.

The family statement of the deceased is that their family member did not shoot anyone.

I argue that he set the shooting of someone in motion and is the responsible party more so than the cop.

I don't know if this was suicide by cop but perhaps there needs to be some PSAs put out that enticing anyone else to kill you because you cant makes you responsible for all that stems from that.

The fatal crash you cause when running into the highway to get struck by a truck or the errant round fired by the cop is on you and only you.

Instead of trying to deflect blame from their family member they should be having him wear the mantle of responsibility he avoided.
 
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I would be very skeptical of shooting someone on an ATV for reckless driving and would expect someone to step to the side if doing so could provide more safety than shooting. I’m unfamiliar with any of the facts here though.
 
I would be very skeptical of shooting someone on an ATV for reckless driving and would expect someone to step to the side if doing so could provide more safety than shooting. I’m unfamiliar with any of the facts here though.


Look at the video when you get a chance......

It was one of those highway takeovers on the main artery in/out of Boston.

Twenty/thirty unlawful riders doing whatever they could to escape.

It was a melee....a very dangerous situation on that highway if not dealt with.

It hasn't been repeated.
 
That would probably change a lot. I take a dim view of organized disorder in any case. Around here when someone on an ATV gets shot usually he’s drinking and driving and the officer stands in front of him and shoots.
 
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I don't think it will go well for the Tpr with this particular DA.

She has declared shop lifting, car stealing, and A&B on a PO as crimes she will not prosecute along with others.

Boston had a counter protest/protest back in August. The idea behind it "Straight Pride Parade".

The Boston police/other depts. walled off the permitted protesters so that unpermitted Antifa people could not get at them.

Antifa hurled piss bottles at the police and otherwise assaulted the police trying to keep the peace.

The DA dismissed charges on those arrested.

She will argue had the police just let the ATVs run the highway they would have eventually left.

As a tax paying member of society wanting safe roads are you okay with that?
 
I’m no lawyer but I have slept with one. There’s a legal doctrine called transference of intent. If you shoot in self defense and experience a negative outcome regarding a third party, the law treats that as self defense. Same if you shoot someone with criminal intent—it’s as if you shot the bystander with criminal intent. That was the sweetest where I grew up and I like it. But it does depend on the state.
So what did your lawyer lady do that she had to transfer intent in your pillow talk?
 
IIRC this trooper rode alongside the kid on the ATV and shot him.
If that's true. He should be charged. There's no possible justification to shoot an unarmed person for a vehicle infraction.
I don't know what the state laws or guidance is on acceptable actions against motorcyclist that are fleeing. But I am pretty sure it's not to take lethal actions.
I don't think it will go well for the Tpr with this particular DA.

She has declared shop lifting, car stealing, and A&B on a PO as crimes she will not prosecute along with others.

Boston had a counter protest/protest back in August. The idea behind it "Straight Pride Parade".

The Boston police/other depts. walled off the permitted protesters so that unpermitted Antifa people could not get at them.

Antifa hurled piss bottles at the police and otherwise assaulted the police trying to keep the peace.

The DA dismissed charges on those arrested.

She will argue had the police just let the ATVs run the highway they would have eventually left.

As a tax paying member of society wanting safe roads are you okay with that?
 
IIRC this trooper rode alongside the kid on the ATV and shot him.
If that's true. He should be charged. There's no possible justification to shoot an unarmed person for a vehicle infraction.
I don't know what the state laws or guidance is on acceptable actions against motorcyclist that are fleeing. But I am pretty sure it's not to take lethal actions.

Shot him with a patrol rifle according to what I heard.

Don't see that happening from in a vehicle.

Kid was hit in the foot supposedly driving toward people on foot front of his vehicle air borne.

I think a lot of what is happening to him might be related to the post shoot social media Colonoscopy.
 
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Again you dodged.
According to the statement by the state DA. They are allowed under certain circumstances. Seems like there's a broad interpretation of those situations.
Getting a payout by the State for an officer's actions is the topic of the thread. If the officers immunity is removed. That broad interpretation may get very narrow.
IMO on the link I provided. This was definitely not the first time for this officer to target and grope young black men. Considering he called for backup and that officer didn't object or try to interfere it in any way says the same thing for him.
Usually they get a decent payout.

That officer was fired, convicted of a crime and the state payed $185,000 in settlement.
 
Different story then. There's another one where the group of youngsters were doing the road parade wilding and an officer rode alongside of one and shot him.
Shot him with a patrol rifle according to what I heard.

Don't see that happening from in a vehicle.

Kid was hit in the foot supposedly driving toward people on foot front of his vehicle air borne.

I think a lot of what is happening to him might be related to the post shoot social media Colonoscopy.
 
Again you dodged.
According to the statement by the state DA. They are allowed under certain circumstances. Seems like there's a broad interpretation of those situations.
Getting a payout by the State for an officer's actions is the topic of the thread. If the officers immunity is removed. That broad interpretation may get very narrow.
IMO on the link I provided. This was definitely not the first time for this officer to target and grope young black men. Considering he called for backup and that officer didn't object or try to interfere it in any way says the same thing for him.
According to the police he said the ATV was coming right at him. Yet the bullet holes were from the side. Oops.
 
Oops. Looks like he shot from the side, has a history of making racist comments and was implicated in a time theft crime. Winner!

All the other BS is irrelevant at the moment, in the middle of the event what happened?

The colonoscopy shows immaturity?

But in the moment was the shoot justified?

Some reports say shot from the side. Doesn't make it a bad shoot, what was behind that the vehicle was approaching? Others on foot?

I see him losing his job, perhaps not for the shoot but his social media posts.
 
Hey man, I trust the police not to charge one of their own with a crime he didn’t commit. If the investigators think he did it, he probably did.

Remains to be seen.

The DA has an agenda.

I'll give her credit though she makes herself approachable on a local conservative talk radio show.

She is up front with who she is and what she intends to do.

Fall out has been funny because some criminals from her county commit crimes in neighboring counties not knowing they are not in Kansas anymore.

They have commented "But I thought X wasn't illegal anymore"

The second incident was not my subject there is too much noise around that incident.

Im more interested in the first one with the video and the shot bystander.

I posted the second to show things are not "laundered" there actually is after shoot investigation.
 
I saw a cop posted a story once about a chick trying to get her guy to stop breaking the law in front of the cops. She was saying “we outside the city, this the county!” Lol