Banning Turkey and Rabbit guns too
- Thread starter hermosabeach
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Uncle Ted is about as reliable a source as Alex Jones. No wonder they teamed up. I stopped watching after he said there were 30 pellets in a shell. I tried to go back, but had to stop about 1/2 way through. His argument is essentially the uninformed “you don’t even have to aim a shotgun to hit your target” tripe. (Yes, I know you do not “aim” a shotgun, you “point” a shotgun...)
There are 18 projectiles in a 3.5” 12ga 00 buckshot shell, not 30. Typical patterning will put most/all of them within the vital zone of 1 target at typical effective ranges for the gun. Momentum (not kinetic energy) is the property of moving matter that drives a projectile to the vitals. Each 00 buckshot pellet weighs 1/8 oz, traveling at ~ 1200 FPS. A 55 grain 223 bullet weighs almost exactly 1/8 oz, but travels at ~3100 FPS. The effective range of a shotgun is no where near the effective range of a centerfire rifle. While 00 buck at close range on a cinderblock is impressive, at ranges that would allow hits on multiple targets from a single shell, the individual pellets are relatively anaemic. A 223 has a several 100 yard effective range. And at close range, 00 buck will not pass through a soft target, but 55 gr 223 will. The recoil of a 3.5” 12ga 00 buckshot shell makes follow on shots difficult.
I understand what Nugent is trying to say, but the deceitful way he says it is off putting.
The Vegas gunman, raining down 00 buckshot, would have been supremely annoying to the concert goers several hundred yards away. Maybe not even that, from 400 yards...
There are 18 projectiles in a 3.5” 12ga 00 buckshot shell, not 30. Typical patterning will put most/all of them within the vital zone of 1 target at typical effective ranges for the gun. Momentum (not kinetic energy) is the property of moving matter that drives a projectile to the vitals. Each 00 buckshot pellet weighs 1/8 oz, traveling at ~ 1200 FPS. A 55 grain 223 bullet weighs almost exactly 1/8 oz, but travels at ~3100 FPS. The effective range of a shotgun is no where near the effective range of a centerfire rifle. While 00 buck at close range on a cinderblock is impressive, at ranges that would allow hits on multiple targets from a single shell, the individual pellets are relatively anaemic. A 223 has a several 100 yard effective range. And at close range, 00 buck will not pass through a soft target, but 55 gr 223 will. The recoil of a 3.5” 12ga 00 buckshot shell makes follow on shots difficult.
I understand what Nugent is trying to say, but the deceitful way he says it is off putting.
The Vegas gunman, raining down 00 buckshot, would have been supremely annoying to the concert goers several hundred yards away. Maybe not even that, from 400 yards...
@helee, I know what your saying. The anti-gun works with a lot of misinformation. Fight fire with fire. Just need to get the shotgun owners off their asses and into the fight.
