Barrel Breakin Rounds??

[N2DADARK]

Heres the back story, I have a 700 sps varm. at home that Im looking to shoot more when I get back. It maybe has about 150 rounds thru it, max. I was reading in a shooting mag I found in the shitter about a company that makes some rounds for breaking in the barrel, but it wasn't really breaking in the barrel. These rounds (either pre loaded or hand loaded) had differing abrasive surfaces to them. They came in 2 kits a 15 shot (i think) and a 30 shot. And what you did is shot the first set you were instructed and then cleaned then the next and so on and so on. The article stated and show pictures that the barrel was "mircrohoned" (<-- just made that up). It showed the very fine tooling marks in the barrel and the difference before and after, and stated cleaning and more importantly accuracy were both improved. Anyone know of these kits, cost, location, or hands on with them?

 

[deadly0311]

Re: Barrel Breakin Rounds??

Tubbs FFS Final Firing Something or other.....

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[Sumpter Steve]

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I have never used these products as I just go out and shoot my rifles. I have never broken in a barrel in my life and I've had good success over the years. Personally I would spend my money on ammo/re-loading supplies. Just my 2C. LonewolfUSMC has a great vidoe of barrel "break-in" on his site www.8541tactical.com.

 

[RADcustom]

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Final Finish bullets sold by Superior Shooting Systems

 

[oneshot onekill]

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Barrel Break-in is a myth made up by a Barrel Manufacturer to sell more barrels. That said, when you're dealing with a "Factory made" Remington barrel, that didn't come out of the Custom Shop, there is a good chance the barrel has anomalies from sloppy manufacturing. I think if you want the best accuracy out of that barrel you should try to get it scoped to see what you're dealing with first. Never run ANYTHING abrasive thru your barrel until you know what you're dealing with. All you're doing is prematurely wearing out the barrel.
Best case the barrel is OK and just shoot it. Worst case the barrel has issues that will hinder accuracy. In that case go ahead and try whatever Voo-Doo Magic "Barrel-Burning" products you want... But be prepared to replace the barrel soon with a nice Custom-made barrel that will be carefully made, Hand-lapped and ready to start shooting tiny groups with.

My $0.02... FWIW.

 

[High Binder]

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Snake oil

 

[gugubica]

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if you have 150 down it, you have already done what the FFS will do. all these bullets do is polish out the tool marks, about 200 rounds of standard ammo will do the same thing.

 

[BruxBarrels]

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Barrel Brake-In procedures aren't necessary on a properly hand-lapped barrel, therefore it is not a way for custom barrel manufacturers to sell more barrels. On factory barrels, it wouldn't hurt to fire-lap the barrels with Tubbs FFS, but it would be much better to have a qualified person lap the barrel instead.

 

[head2h2o]

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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Sumpter Steve</div><div class="ubbcode-body">LonewolfUSMC has a great vidoe of barrel "break-in" on his site www.8541tactical.com.


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I love this video. It cracks me up, mostly becuase I think it is true. I experimented with this about a year ago with a couple of new guns. Some factory, some custom. I couldn't tell a hill of beans worth of difference one way or the other.

 

[oneshot onekill]

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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Brux Barrels</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Barrel Brake-In procedures aren't necessary on a properly hand-lapped barrel, <span style="color: #FF0000">therefore it is not a way for custom barrel manufacturers to sell more barrels.</span> On factory barrels, it wouldn't hurt to fire-lap the barrels with Tubbs FFS, but it would be much better to have a qualified person lap the barrel instead. </div></div>

First, I won't pretend to know more about barrels than you do. I get my information from Gale McMillan of McMillan Bros. Here's a direct quote posted on another forum from Gale McMillan:

"The break in fad was started by a fellow I helped get started in the barrel business . He started putting a set of break in instructions in ever barrel he shipped. One came into the shop to be installed and I read it and the next time I saw him I asked him What was with this break in crap?. His answer was Mac, My share of the market is about 700 barrels a year. I cater to the target crowd and they shoot a barrel about 3000 rounds before they change it. If each one uses up 100 rounds of each barrel breaking it in you can figure out how many more barrels I will get to make each year. If you will stop and think that the barrel doesn't know whether you are cleaning it every shot or every 5 shots and if you are removing all foreign material that has been deposited in it since the last time you cleaned it what more can you do? When I ship a barrel I send a recommendation with it that you clean it ever chance you get with a brass brush pushed through it at least 12 times with a good solvent and followed by two and only 2 soft patches. This means if you are a bench rest shooter you clean ever 7 or 8 rounds . If you are a high power shooter you clean it when you come off the line after 20 rounds. If you follow the fad of cleaning every shot for X amount and every 2 shots for X amount and so on the only thing you are accomplishing is shortening the life of the barrel by the amount of rounds you shot during this process. I always say Monkey see Monkey do, now I will wait on the flames but before you write them, Please include what you think is happening inside your barrel during break in that is worth the expense and time you are spending during break in."

While <span style="font-weight: bold">I</span> agree break-in is not necessary on a Hand-lapped barrel you must know there are many "Custom Barrel Makers" that include a Break-in procedure with each of their Hand-lapped barrels... Unless things have recently changed. From what I understand at least one Custom Barrel Maker voids your warranty if you don't follow the included "Break-in Procedure".

Just sayin'...

 

[flyboy]

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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TRRahHX9Zkg

 

[N2DADARK]

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Yeah nothing custom about my barrel, I figured after about 100 factory loads and about 50 hand loads, week or hot the barrel would be well worked. I usually shoot about 30 to 50 rnds a setting, and clean when I get home with some hoppe's 9 and then some copper solvent to remove copper then hoppe's 9 to get rid of the solvent, then a nice lube'd patch for storage.