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Gunsmithing Barrel Work in a Lathe

JLP2003

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I'm about to start on my first build with a threaded and "pre-chambered" Shilen barrel I picked up. Planning on cutting a few inches off and recrowning, along with taking some off the shoulder so I can properly rechamber.

I've got some experience machining but none where finish mattered.

Any tips on how to chuck this barrel in my lathe without marring the thing up?

Thanks in advance!

Edit: I've got a 3 jaw chuck mounted now, but could put a 4 jaw on if necessary.
 
Re: Barrel Work in a Lathe

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Use the four jaw.
 
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Yeah, kinda figured the 4 jaw. Oh well, if you want it done right...

Any tips on how to keep the jaws from marring the barrel up? I've heard sandpaper wrapped rough side out, but it seems to me that the barrel would slip or paper would just tear.
 
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In my experience, you don't need to crank down really hard on the jaws. You will have slight marks and I won't mislead you there. They are easily polished out. I used to tighten the jaws over and above. If you are doing sane cuts, meaning multiple passes, you will be fine with moderate jaw pressure. Start hogging off alot of material, you pay the consequences. If interested, I have a homemade polishing set-up. Happy Chip Making
 
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Flat strips between the 4 chuck jaws and a barrel breech do not make for much gimble movement. If the chuck jaws are not parallel to the spindle bore the spider will just bend the barrel to make up the difference. The barrel will seem to be dialed in on both ends, but it is not the best. This is why some use a wire wrapped around the breech or a right side of headstock spider [like HateCA just said].

A spud in the breech that can be dialed in over some length will assure that the bore is locally parallel to the spindle, even if the barrel came a little bent from the factory.

But there are two levels of separation between my above nick picking and reality:
1) Off center chambers put the bullet in the bore with a center of gravity off the center of the bore, and centrifugal force causes the bullet to fly off the center of the bore at the time of bullet escapement. Unlike handloads where the eccentricity is randomly inserted and causes inaccuracy, the off center chamber is consistent and mostly throws the bullet off center to the same small group.
2) Shilen pre chambered barrels are long chambered, and only need some shoulder and breech cut off to fit the action for headspace. The bolt face might not be perpendicular to the bore, possibly causing inaccuracy, but this error would likely be very small over the width of the case head.

What does it all mean?
If that is a Stainless Shilen, you can likely HAND FILE off the breech and shoulder to fit, and get 1/2" groups.
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