I use both, standard stock .25 MOA turrets....and.... Kenton custom turrets, made to my load's specs. I routinely shoot out to 600 yds. I found myself using and liking the Kenton equipped rifles much more due to the simplicity, speed, and confidence I've built up in them the last several years. I understand that there is no flexibility when using BDC knobs, but I always use the same loads (one load for each rifle), and rarely, almost never travel with them to effect elevational differences. Here in the midwest we have huge temp swings, so I have my knobs set to 50 degrees (about middle of temp swings), and honestly, any change of POI has been negligible. Often I read on the Hide, and feel that many of you are much more scrutinizing of your accuracy, and maybe I'm just lazy and "settling" for acceptable accuracy. Is this the case, or are the surprises out past 600 yds that would reveal problems with my beloved knobs? Lol (That sounds bad). Thanks -