beginner's alter to the long range gods

30CALkiss

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I want to start by saying please forgive the long post. It is my first here on the 'Hide and I wanted to make it count! This is a progression of my rifle "build" of my Remmy 700P from stock to the way it sits today. Thanks and I hope you enjoy!

I have been lurking in the shadows here on the 'Hide for some time now, soaking up all the information I possibly can on the art of long range marksmanship. I joined this sight after a friend and I acquired our first tactical style rifles in the form of a pair of Remington .308's( mine being a 700P, while he opted for the LTR).

I began my "build" with what I believe is a pretty solid beginner's platform in the 700P. When I compared the two(700P and LTR) to one another the 700P just seemed to feel better in my hands. The first mistake I made throughout this "build" was slapping an $80 Tasco 6-24 with a mildot and target turrets on my rifle thinking that would be "tactical enough". LOL, was I ever wrong. I began searching for a better scope and eventually upgraded when funds allowed to a used Burris XTR 3-12x50, and a set of 30mm XTR low rings from here on the 'Hide. What a world of difference that made! I now had a scope with IMHO good glass, and turrets that track perfectly.

Phase 2 came in the form of a 20 MOA base from EGW, and a cosmetic upgrade via Krylon. I just didn't favor the look of the rifle in all black...

After more reading and searching from the knowledge base found here, I jumped into skim bedding my HS stock with Devcon. I was a little intimidated to start with, but after looking over the bedding tutorial here on the 'Hide I just went for it. The results from bedding the rifle coupled with torquing down the action screws to right at 60 in. lbs. was a pleasant surprise. The rifle has shot better than I am capable of since I got it, but the bedding/consistent torque on the action screws helped reduce the number of flyers that I was having while shooting.

After the scope upgrade, addition of the 20 MOA base, spray-bomb makeover, bedding, and torquing the action screws the rifle wound up hovering around 1/2-3/4 MOA groups at 100y(the only distance I have been able too shoot).

The only real other thing I could think of doing was replacing the factory trigger with one from Rifle Basix. With the new trigger set to a crisp 2.5 lbs the break felt like glass!

The final additions to my rifle came from Triad in the form of am Eagle stock pack (OD green), an Impact modular data book, Mildot Master, and Triad's data book cover (also in OD green).
I feel like my buildup has gone well and kept me well within a reasonable budget....

Thanks to all the 'Hide members who unknowingly gave me advice, ideas, motivation and quite often turn me green with envy! LOL!

And here she is!!! After many months of tinkering and reading!

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ETA: I forgot to mention that I also reload for my rifle. I'm finding that the .308 is inherently accurate to load for and blessed with MANY excellent bullets to choose from. My favorite choice so far is Hornady's 168gr A-max over either H4895, or Ramshot TAC. Both combinations have proven to be very accurate from my rifle.

Also, any advice for a long range novice from GA would be greatly appreciated. Right now I am limited to the distance I can shoot(100y), but could possibly find 300y to shoot every once in a while.

Again thanks to all my fellow 'hide members and god bless our troops!
 
Re: beginner's alter to the long range gods

Congratulations
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Have you considered a bolt knob modification or are you ok with the stock bolt "dot"?

It was always too small for my hand and my short, fat fingers.

I ended up having AZPrecision cerakote me one his his knurled teardrop ones. There are some great choices out there and some awesome smiths that will not only make the conversion for you but will also refinish the bolt body if you desire it.
 
Re: beginner's alter to the long range gods

Looks great.

That rifle should drive nails at 100-300 yards which you said you'll be shooting most often. Get some time behind it with your pet load and then it'll be time to take a trip to a longer range and see what she can do.

If I'm not mistaken those A-Maxs should stay sub-MOA to 800ish fairly well. You'll fall in love with it all over again.

Excellent first post.
 
Re: beginner's alter to the long range gods

thanks for the replies guys!

I had a chance to go up to Gun-sight Hills this weekend and do some farther ranges(750y)! The gun performed very well, even with my novice driving. I was shooting some factory "match" loads from GA Arms. 168gr. BTHP(speer's I think) in LC brass @~2650fps. Even with me shooting, the gun still maintained sub MOA grouping on the steel at the range. I am now officially hooked! Nothing like the boom.... wait.... DING! LOL! I just wish I had somewhere closer to refine my long range skill!

Oddball-Six: I would like to upgrade the bolt knob at some point down the road with one from AZ Precision, but for now the OEM knob is working ok(small hands lol)

Minimula: the rifle is a laser at 100y so far, and I cant complain!! I am really looking forward to more experience at longer ranges.
 
Re: beginner's alter to the long range gods

Nice rifle. Paint job looks pro.

Did chief make the range longer there? Last time I shot there, I lased the furthest piece of steel he had set up at 667Y prone in front of the bench. From the bench add another 10y. Just beyond that steel is nothing but woods.

What was your dope at your 750 yards?
 
Re: beginner's alter to the long range gods

was that the 3 pieces of steel at the very end (1 large steel target and 2 smaller)? I could have heard him wrong and it may have been between 650-700. Dope for the farthest targets was right at 20 MOA Up, and I dialed 2 MOA for the left wind coming across the range. Chief is a great coach full of good shooting advice!!!
 
Re: beginner's alter to the long range gods

after shooting some of GA arms stuff over the chrono, I've found its closer to 2550-2600 vs. the 2650-2700 I plugged into JBM to get my range card for shooting
 
Re: beginner's alter to the long range gods

How do you know you're getting sub-MOA on steel at those distances. Steel does't print holes like paper, and your impact marks can't be differentiated from other shooters at a multi-person range.

On a separate question, how do you like the 20MOA base with that scope at 100 yards? Are you printing your 100 yard zero on the bullseye or a couple of inches above due to limited MOA adjustment with the +20 base?
 
Re: beginner's alter to the long range gods

I was lucky enough to be the only one on the range while I was there, and could measure the impacts on the steel prior to re-applying the paint.

I really like the adjustment that the 20 MOA base gives me! I have a dead on 100y zero and exactly 64 MOA of usable up elevation in the scope.