Bergara hmr pro vs seekins Havak

[kimberfan]

Looking at these 2, the seekins with the magpul hunter stock, both in 6.5 creedmoor. My question is which one would you pick and why? Is there any other better options for the price range? My LGS is doing the seekins for 1899$ out the door and their dealer has 4 in stock.

My budget tops at 1900$ and would prefer not to wait for anything, I already have my glass for this rifle (bushnell hdmr with h59) so 1900$ is all for the rifle.

 

[jram]

I haven’t shot either, but I’ve handled the seekins pro hunter and really liked the action. I like the extended barrel tennon a lot. The Havak action seems like a VERY rigid foundation.

 

[PinesAndProjectiles]

I handled the Seekins at Cabela's last week. I wasn't impressed. There seems to be a very tight tolerance between the bolt and the receiver and it wasn't very smooth. I don't know if it would break in over time, but for a custom action, I expected more.

 

[ClangClang]

What about the Seekins with a 50% gift card (so $1100 out the door) vs the Bergara at general retail pricing? I have a Seekins 50% card and not sure whether I should use it or sell it off.

 

[Terry Cross]

Looking at these 2, the seekins with the magpul hunter stock, both in 6.5 creedmoor. My question is which one would you pick and why? .

Between these 2 choices the Seekins Havak would be miles ahead in almost every area.

We have seen the Bergara rifles repeatedly have issues when used by students attending classes. The stocks have issues with the cheek piece as well as the action screws staying put. The actions have had trigger issues and ejector/extractor issues when the guns are run hard and dirty for several days straight.

The Havak is a WAY more robust action. The triggers are GTG. The barrels used by Glen and the chambering specs are money. The MagPul stock may not be everybody's cup of tea but it is unquestionably well thought out, very adjustable and robust as well.

In my personal opinion there is no contest between these two if you are actually planning on using your new rifle to any extent.

Good luck with your project either way.

T.

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[kimberfan]

Well I bought a 40% off and went with the havak, now to wait 4 months.

 

[Primus]

For that kind of money, you can't beat the John Hancock rifle.

 

[kimberfan]

For that kind of money, you can't beat the John Hancock rifle.

The havak ended up being 1300$ including the cost of the 40% off certificate, pretty sure that beats everything out there price wise.

 

[kimberfan]

Between these 2 choices the Seekins Havak would be miles ahead in almost every area.

We have seen the Bergara rifles repeatedly have issues when used by students attending classes. The stocks have issues with the cheek piece as well as the action screws staying put. The actions have had trigger issues and ejector/extractor issues when the guns are run hard and dirty for several days straight.

The Havak is a WAY more robust action. The triggers are GTG. The barrels used by Glen and the chambering specs are money. The MagPul stock may not be everybody's cup of tea but it is unquestionably well thought out, very adjustable and robust as well.

In my personal opinion there is no contest between these two if you are actually planning on using your new rifle to any extent.

Good luck with your project either way.

T.

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This is the type of stuff I wanted to hear, I am very happy I went with the havak, the 40% just pushed me over the edge, I ended up paying ruger rpr price for my havak. Now I just wait.

 

[kimberfan]

What about the Seekins with a 50% gift card (so $1100 out the door) vs the Bergara at general retail pricing? I have a Seekins 50% card and not sure whether I should use it or sell it off.

If you need a rifle use it, I think you would be very happy with a havak.

 

[Smokyred]

Between these 2 choices the Seekins Havak would be miles ahead in almost every area.

We have seen the Bergara rifles repeatedly have issues when used by students attending classes. The stocks have issues with the cheek piece as well as the action screws staying put. The actions have had trigger issues and ejector/extractor issues when the guns are run hard and dirty for several days straight.

The Havak is a WAY more robust action. The triggers are GTG. The barrels used by Glen and the chambering specs are money. The MagPul stock may not be everybody's cup of tea but it is unquestionably well thought out, very adjustable and robust as well.

In my personal opinion there is no contest between these two if you are actually planning on using your new rifle to any extent.

Good luck with your project either way.

T.

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The standard HMR or the HMR Pro? The Pro has their Premier action, and a Triggertech trigger, among other differences, vs. the standard HMR.

I'm interested in a Havak, but I'm one of those that thinks that the Magpul stock feels cheap, and I'd prefer to have an adjustable cheek piece that doesn't require buying more parts. Or spending $2k on it, and having to put it in another stock or chassis.

Dave

 

[Primus]

The havak ended up being 1300$ including the cost of the 40% off certificate, pretty sure that beats everything out there price wise.

Price wise yes but value and quality the Hancock gun is vasty superior. Seekins bolt guns aren't impressive. Give me the custom action and better barrel any day of the week.

 

[Primus]

For 2 grand I would buy a cheap Tikka T3x action, a good quality cut rifled barrel from any of the well known manufacturer, send it to a competent gunsmith and drop it into a chassis that accepts AICS magazines.

Or you could buy a Hancock and get one of the best actions on the market with a qd barrel system and an aics chassis/stock. Owned a few tikkas but they don't compare to ARC actions.

 

[dannySH]

Or you could buy a Hancock and get one of the best actions on the market with a qd barrel system and an aics chassis/stock. Owned a few tikkas but they don't compare to ARC actions.

How is the feeling of the Nucleus action compare to Tikka?

 

[kimberfan]

Price wise yes but value and quality the Hancock gun is vasty superior. Seekins bolt guns aren't impressive. Give me the custom action and better barrel any day of the week.

Seekins is using the same barrels as josh does, it’s a rock creek cut rifled 5r 1 in 8. The action maybe different but eh I think it will be good.

 

[Primus]

How is the feeling of the Nucleus action compare to Tikka?

I haven't run one yet , Waiting for the call for my preorder.

However the Mausingfield which is similar, is the best action on the market. Love my tikka's but there is nothing like a butter smooth CRF action.

 

[whiskey0479]

Well I bought a 40% off and went with the havak, now to wait 4 months.

I must be in the dark, but what is this 40% off card?

 

[kimberfan]

I must be in the dark, but what is this 40% off card?

You can buy 30-40% off codes in the sales/exchange area, I saved 800$ on my havak alone.

 

[spife7980]

I must be in the dark, but what is this 40% off card?

Yeah, people will win a discount card or something that they won’t use so they sell it. A 40% discount card for 100 bucks means that a purchase over 250 becomes discounted. 40% off a full $2k rifle is a major savings.

 

[whiskey0479]

Wow thanks for the info!

 

[rookie7]

The OP made his choice I hope it serves him well. @Primus recommended the John Hancock rifle.

I bet the JH is going to be a good rifle, but I am also willing to bet that folks who placed an order for a production JH rifle will not have it in hand in 2018.

I could be wrong though.

 

[kimberfan]

The OP made his choice I hope it serves him well. @Primus recommended the John Hancock rifle.

I bet the JH is going to be a good rifle, but I am also willing to bet that folks who placed an order for a production JH rifle will not have it in hand in 2018.

I could be wrong though.

That is another reason I went seekins besides the 40% off I could get was wait time, it should be 4 months or less, the JH is not going to meet that wait time.

 

[Primus]

The only thing holding up the JH is actions, which are shipping now.

People used to wait a Year or YEARS for rifles from GAP and the like.

Now they are crying because a custom gun built to standard specs takes a few months. Its crazy.

$1000+ action that is already coated
$500+ Premium prefit barrel
$400 Chassis
$200 Trigger

You are getting premium parts built for cheaper than u can even buy them,, Ignoring top end smith fees.

Its a no brainer unless you need some off the wall caliber.

 

[thomas abbott]

What about the Seekins with a 50% gift card (so $1100 out the door) vs the Bergara at general retail pricing? I have a Seekins 50% card and not sure whether I should use it or sell it off.

Seeing me if you're selling your card discount card

 

[ClangClang]

Seeing me if you're selling your card discount card

Look at the dates on the prior posts. This thread is over 2 years old. That card is long gone.