Okay so I know this has probably been kick around before. But I am gonna throw it out foe a fresh start. Looking for a scope 750.00 to 1000.00 range for hunting and steel shooting. Only 2 options wanted a zero stop without shims and ftp. Lets hear the opinions. More the better. Make and model would help.
Rifle Scopes Best budget all around optic
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Look no farther than this!!! Ignore the zero almost stop...
http://m.ebay.com/itm/Vortex-Viper-...-Rifle-Scope-/222571494695?nav=SELLING_ACTIVE
http://m.ebay.com/itm/Vortex-Viper-...-Rifle-Scope-/222571494695?nav=SELLING_ACTIVE
Burris xtr2 or used Bushnell lrts or lrhs. I looked through a gen 1 vortex pst and wasn't impressed on the platform I shot it on. The 2 I mentioned I use currently without complaint.
The PST Gen II are a big step up from previous generation, especially the 4-16. It was the worst in the old line up according to my eyes. I've had a 2.5-10 PST, 4-16 PST, 6-24 PST, 2.5-10 XLR, 3-12 LRHS, 4.5-30 XRS, 3-15 PST G2, 5-25 PST G2, Steiner MX, Vortex Razor G2 and a few others over the years and honestly the 5-25 is towards the top of the pile.
I've seen them for sale in the PX at the top end of your budget. If you don't need a ton of magnification the old 2.5-10 was a great little scope.
The LRHS are nice but they are geared towards hunting and have capped windage AFAIK. If you alway hold it may not be a big deal.
I've seen them for sale in the PX at the top end of your budget. If you don't need a ton of magnification the old 2.5-10 was a great little scope.
The LRHS are nice but they are geared towards hunting and have capped windage AFAIK. If you alway hold it may not be a big deal.
http://www.eurooptic.com/sig-sauer-3-12x42mm-mrad-milling-illuminated-glass-reticle-sot43004.aspx
http://www.eurooptic.com/bushnell-e...-range-hunting-scope-lrhs-3-12x44-e3124h.aspx
http://www.eurooptic.com/201023-Burris-Xtreme-Tactical-XTR-II-2X-10X-42mm-illum-G2B-M.aspx
http://www.eurooptic.com/201033-Burris-Xtreme-Tactical-XTR-II-3X-15X-50mm-illum-G2B-M.aspx
http://www.eurooptic.com/bushnell-e...-range-hunting-scope-lrhs-3-12x44-e3124h.aspx
http://www.eurooptic.com/201023-Burris-Xtreme-Tactical-XTR-II-2X-10X-42mm-illum-G2B-M.aspx
http://www.eurooptic.com/201033-Burris-Xtreme-Tactical-XTR-II-3X-15X-50mm-illum-G2B-M.aspx
For that budget I'd say Burris XTR 2. You can get the 3-15, 4-20 or 5-25. I've been loving my 4-20, and I got it for like $875 brand new after rebate (they have a $100 rebate thing going. I think it's still going till the end of the month or august, but I'm not sure).
Most people I've seen prefer the XTR 2s over the Gen 1 PST scopes, but the Gen 2 PST scopes are supposedly better than the XTR 2s, as they should be, they will cost about $200 more.
XTR2s have a good zero stop, they are tough, and are FFP, and come in both illuminated, and non-illuminated models, the non-illuminated ones cost about $100 less.
There are also 2 reticle options, SCR, and G2B. The G2B costs less than the SCR.
Most people I've seen prefer the XTR 2s over the Gen 1 PST scopes, but the Gen 2 PST scopes are supposedly better than the XTR 2s, as they should be, they will cost about $200 more.
XTR2s have a good zero stop, they are tough, and are FFP, and come in both illuminated, and non-illuminated models, the non-illuminated ones cost about $100 less.
There are also 2 reticle options, SCR, and G2B. The G2B costs less than the SCR.
I like the burris xtr2 . The glass is good. I had sometime with the pst gen 2 , at a vendor show here at a local gun store and monkeyed around with it. i looked through the vortex and the only big difference in glass quality was on high magnification. Not sure if it is more of a focus issue rather than a actual glass defect. But I like the turrets on the xtr2 , to me they feel firmer and have better feedback when adjusting. Not slamming the vortex , i am a fan of then to just wanted to get a census on the scopes out there as there are about 200 different ones and u fortunately my job isn't to test them.
It's usually always on high magnification when you notice a scopes shortcomings in the glass department, which explains why the gen2 PST was better at high mag... Both scopes will get the job done for you, but the better glass, warranty and reticle of the Vortex should be a no brainer.. Vortex's warranty is the best in the industry..
I thought all the major brands are jumpi mg g on the unlimited warranty now.at these I know burris, bushnell and nikon all boast about it. Like I said I like the viper , but when I bought my burris xtr2 2 and yes I own one to. The pst gen 2 was 6 months put at best. So it was no brainer cause I couldn't get one of the 2. I will say the reticle lines on the burris are a little bit thicker than I like at high magnification. But it is not to bad.
What's the verdict on the sig sauer optics line? I haven't had a Chance t check one out. Watched some reviews and they seemed good.
They all may boast about their warranty but Vortex actually backs it up.. I've used Burris's warranty in the last year and a half and I wasn't impressed.. Never used bushnells... Ask anyone about the service you get from Vortex, they take care of their customers..
You are going to make me want one. I am trying to hide in my happy place and not feed my optics addiction. My name is Supercorndogs, and its been 26 days since my last optic purchase. LOL. I have been eyeballing that new 2-10 PSTII, because sometimes that 50ft FOV is very nice.
I have used Bushnell and Burris in the last 6 months and was very impressed by both. I don't know what more you want, than fixed or replaced for free.
this nothin comes close for the price https://www.opticswarehouse.co.uk/product/delta-titanium-2-5-15x56-hd-illuminated-4a-sf-riflescope/
699 euro on the link from tozz isn't that about aroumf 800 usd. I would get the burris or vortex for 200 more.
actually I would have been satisfied with either of those two options, instead, they elected to just send me back the same shitty pos scope without doing shit to it... But, that's behind me now, it's gone and I've moved on to better options...
The New Vortex PST Gen II's are a great option, and we have a few unsold Vortex PST Gen II 3-15x44 FFP EBR-2C's on the way to us if you'd like to pre-order one, please call 916.670.1103 
Mushy turrets was the first thing but wasn't a deal breaker, but the glass wouldn't resolve worth a crap but was " within specs"... This was a gen1 model, I've never revisited since the next gen came out, didn't need to....
The obvious fact is the more you pays, the better you gets. I will say the best value I have personally used and/or seen is the $350 Athlon Argos BTR. I routinely shoot this in various ambient conditions on a 223 bolt action from 300 to 1000 yards, both dialing the turrets and using the reticle for holdover. With good optical quality, it has always been spot on. Are the optics and turrets as nice as my more costly scopes, no. Can I shoot the others better, depends on the application. For hunting and steel I would not feel disadvantaged with this scope at all.
Burris XTRII. The 1-8 is impressive (have on on my DD5V1 .308) and for a general use optic, I might go there, or the 2-10 (on my .223 DMR). Great set of features and a great price point. The warranty is a forever warranty, and they do a great job if needed.
I've got high hopes for new Athlon Ares 2.5-15x50 for the OP's price rang as best bang for the buck! It should be here early next week so I'll post first impressions.
A used Bushnell LRHS would be a good choice.
The main thing I've liked about the SWFA 3-15 has been it's large amount of elevation travel, after that the 6m focus. Reticle is basic, doesn't focus to infinity well but otherwise a good scope.
Plug for Athlon's Talos and Argos BTR's as best ever value.
Never was excited about the fixed power SWFA's
A used Bushnell LRHS would be a good choice.
The main thing I've liked about the SWFA 3-15 has been it's large amount of elevation travel, after that the 6m focus. Reticle is basic, doesn't focus to infinity well but otherwise a good scope.
Plug for Athlon's Talos and Argos BTR's as best ever value.
Never was excited about the fixed power SWFA's
friend just got rid off the Burris xtr2 after seeing the delta i have ziess conquest bought a delta dont know if any body stocks them in the states ? you need to see this baby before you spend on any of the above
With the features and price range you specify, a used LRHS is VERY hard to beat. Heck... it's hard to beat regardless....
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