Best flow through suppressor

[flogxal]

Chabadnik, do not passive-aggresively put ideas onto me that way.

It only continues your pathetic fake-superior dishonesty. Go rub your hands together or something.

Chabadnik "Jay" pretends to offer science to dorky fellow Chabadnik "new gun owners" hampered by the usual Chabadnik insecurities and neuroses. "Which is LOUDER? I am WORRIED!"

Go punch a pile of glass shards, pipsqueak.

 

[JR1200W3]

I was thinking the other day how insane the suppressor market is. That a consumer is supposed to buy a product based on its sound performance without ever hearing it for themselves. Unlike a lot of products we buy, suppressors are a secondary tool. They don't get used by themselves. They only get used in conjunction with a couple of other items. And those items get a huge vote in how the downstream component performs. So even if you were able to shoot a Bad Johnson .375 reverse flow, Mongolian, double sided Ti/ Inconel, fuck-can on.your buddy's Kel Tec survival pilot .22LR breakdown gun, it's not a good test for your use. I mean hell, you get to at least test drive your truck.

I commend any effort to baseline these cans for the consumer. Pew (quasi)Science, TBAC Sound Summit. Even YouTube comparisons like JuicyMedia

 

[JR1200W3]

Chabadnik, do not passive-aggresively put ideas onto me that way.

It only continues your pathetic fake-superior dishonesty. Go rub your hands together or something.

Chabadnik "Jay" pretends to offer science to dorky fellow Chabadnik "new gun owners" hampered by the usual Chabadnik insecurities and neuroses. "Which is LOUDER? I am WORRIED!"

Go punch a pile of glass shards, pipsqueak.

You're a fucking retard.

 

[Quasarrasauq]

I was thinking the other day how insane the suppressor market is. That a consumer is supposed to buy a product based on its sound performance without ever hearing it for themselves. Unlike a lot of products we buy, suppressors are a secondary tool. They don't get used by themselves. They only get used in conjunction with a couple of other items. And those items get a huge vote in how the downstream component performs. So even if you were able to shoot a Bad Johnson .375 reverse flow, Mongolian, double sided Ti/ Inconel, fuck-can on.your buddy's Kel Tec survival pilot .22LR breakdown gun, it's not a good test for your use. I mean hell, you get to at least test drive your truck.

I commend any effort to baseline these cans for the consumer. Pew (quasi)Science, TBAC Sound Summit. Even YouTube comparisons like JuicyMedia

Yeah I think having some sort of performance metrics to compare things is great for the consumer. Especially back when NFA wait times were 6-12 months.

 

[carbonbased]

I commend any effort to baseline these cans for the consumer. Pew (quasi)Science, TBAC Sound Summit. Even YouTube comparisons like JuicyMedia

I do like the TBAC silencer summit and their sortable columns

 

[Texascbr]

This feels like reading through exhaust threads on rennlist or ferrari chat. Tons of good info but never really sure.

 

[MontanaMan]

I have the hux flow 556k. I wouldn’t necessarily classify this can as “quiet” but it does what it’s promised in terms of low back pressure. My buddy has a velos k and says the same thing, and that is a newer and possibly better can from what I’ve read on the subject.

Both of our hosts are shorter barrel ARs, I believe mine is the same setup that was used at pewscience in the original hux short barrel tests, the dd mk18.

I wouldn’t say it’s fun to shoot even outdoors without ear pro, with regular range ammo.

Consequentially, I’ve heard from countless sources that the hux 7.62 suppresses 5.56 significantly better.

I don't have the Flow 556k, but I do have the 556Ti, so I cannot compare the 2, but IMHO, the 556Ti still needs ear pro for more than a few rounds. Pew data, if you can believe it, shows the Ti version to have better sound suppression than the Flow 556k version.

I also have the 762Ti but have not shot it on a 556 yet, but will do so shortly.

But I have no instrumental ability to measure db levels so any comparison will just be subjective.

MM

 

[DeaconBlue]

I don’t know what the best flow through is dB wise, but like 5 years ago when I put in the order for a then OSS full size HX-QD 556 my main criteria to begin with was I shoot lefty, wanted to dedicate it to a 11.5 BCM upper, and didn’t want to dick with gas blocks. This was when this version of the can wasn’t in a ton of hands outside of YouTube and got a decent bit of hate online. When I got it 9 months later and shot it the first day, I was so pleased that I soon placed an order for the K version which mostly lives on a 14.5 GPR now. Like it’s gonna be loud regardless, but does what I need it to do.

Not that the welded Hux cans are the best looking thing, but I hate the look of the new 3d printed ones and would possibly take another welded K type if the deal was good enough.

 

[Deepwoods]

My experience reflects DeaconBlue's...

As a lefty long-gun-er, the allure of suppressors was always offset by gas coming out of the ejection port (I've not been convinced that an AGB helps substantially with back-pressure-induced breach gasses). An indoor weekend class with my SF RC2 convinced me to try the OSS, and like DB, I jumped in the deep end.

The less-than-cutting edge sound performance was worth trading off for *so* much less blowback. The FLOWs are better than the previous generation. Sure they still have compromises; they aren't ideal on bolt guns, are not ideal for subsonic 300 blk, and tend to trade down range numbers for shooter's ear numbers.

But for indoor shooting, a piston and flow can (either a high flow can or a FLOW can) mean I don't find myself coughing for the next few hours.

Options are nice.

I don’t know what the best flow through is dB wise, but like 5 years ago when I put in the order for a then OSS full size HX-QD 556 my main criteria to begin with was I shoot lefty, wanted to dedicate it to a 11.5 BCM upper, and didn’t want to dick with gas blocks. This was when this version of the can wasn’t in a ton of hands outside of YouTube and got a decent bit of hate online. When I got it 9 months later and shot it the first day, I was so pleased that I soon placed an order for the K version which mostly lives on a 14.5 GPR now. Like it’s gonna be loud regardless, but does what I need it to do.

Not that the welded Hux cans are the best looking thing, but I hate the look of the new 3d printed ones and would possibly take another welded K type if the deal was good enough.

 

[DeaconBlue]

My experience reflects DeaconBlue's...

As a lefty long-gun-er, the allure of suppressors was always offset by gas coming out of the ejection port (I've not been convinced that an AGB helps substantially with back-pressure-induced breach gasses). An indoor weekend class with my SF RC2 convinced me to try the OSS, and like DB, I jumped in the deep end.

The less-than-cutting edge sound performance was worth trading off for *so* much less blowback. The FLOWs are better than the previous generation. Sure they still have compromises; they aren't ideal on bolt guns, are not ideal for subsonic 300 blk, and tend to trade down range numbers for shooter's ear numbers.

But for indoor shooting, a piston and flow can (either a high flow can or a FLOW can) mean I don't find myself coughing for the next few hours.

Options are nice.

Yeah unfortunately as a lefty what I’ve not found a great remedy for is blowback PCCs, even radially delayed, and pistol cans.

I will say though with a lot of rounds on the Gen 2 OSS/Hux cans and no gas block modifications, there’s no gas to the face and less port pop than any traditional can I’ve tried. I’d only put these on gassers though and wouldn’t waste my time with 300 blk or bolt guns and these cans.

Also maybe another benefit is I’ll swap the K can between like 3 rifles with stock gas blocks and everything runs fine suppressed and unsuppressed. I’m aware you could tune an AGB on every gun to handle all conditions and ammo types but I like low friction solutions.

 

[BravoSector1]

I like my HUX flows because I run them on gas guns and never have issues with those that are overgassed (including AK/SCAR platforms). They are not perfect. I don't run them on my semiauto .300blackout...because it's loud. I have a HUX 556 for the gas guns and run it on a bolt gun as well. I also have a HUX 762 that the village bicycle and rides on everything including my 300PRC hunting rifle. Again, it's louder than my buddies system sitting right next to me on the range when we're doing season prep on those rigs.

I'm glad other manufactures are coming on line with flow through cans and I think, purely from a reliability/no tuning required stand point, the HUX cans are great. Like rifles, finding the "perfect" can is going to be a stretch and is heavily depending on platform, round chambered and intended use.

I always recommend a 762 can to a first time buyer so that it can ride on multiple systems. If a guy has an AR15 and a .30 cal and under hunting rig they've checked the box. Then they smile...and I tell them to buy a bolt gun and can in .22LR so smiles continue!

 

[AleksanderSuave]

This feels like reading through exhaust threads on rennlist or ferrari chat. Tons of good info but never really sure.

Exhaust threads on rennlist are more or less “buy the most expensive, it’s better”

 

[AleksanderSuave]

Chabadnik, do not passive-aggresively put ideas onto me that way.

It only continues your pathetic fake-superior dishonesty. Go rub your hands together or something.

Chabadnik "Jay" pretends to offer science to dorky fellow Chabadnik "new gun owners" hampered by the usual Chabadnik insecurities and neuroses. "Which is LOUDER? I am WORRIED!"

Go punch a pile of glass shards, pipsqueak.

Lord help me, if I’m ever this out of touch with reality in my old age, that someone puts me out of my misery quietly, instead of parading me around like Biden, allowing me unsupervised access to continue embarrassing myself.

 

[flogxal]

I haven't often seen such a passive-aggressive, hit-and-run child in my 30+ years of internet use.

Not from one who has adult # of rings on his trunk, that is.

But I can offer a hand of sympathy. Sorry you were born half-arsed and have to spend your life making up for it with drive-by putdowns, exaggerations, and outright projection of your own flaws. That's a pity, truly.

 

[AleksanderSuave]

I haven't often seen such a passive-aggressive, hit-and-run child in my 30+ years of internet use.

Not from one who has adult # of rings on his trunk, that is.

But I can offer a hand of sympathy. Sorry you were born half-arsed and have to spend your life making up for it with drive-by putdowns, exaggerations, and outright projection of your own flaws. That's a pity, truly.

5 pages in and you’re still ranting with no point other than you hate PewScience and we’re all Jews for supporting it?

Normally I wouldn’t stoop to this level but the other person responding to you was correct, you’re fucking retarded.

Enjoy the block list.

 

[thedude824]

I see others posting about HUXWRX not working well on 300 black out. I assume they are referring to subsonic as my experience with supersonic 300 black out with the Flow 762 was excellent. Now that I’m loading subsonic I went to the Velos LBP 762, but only because I plan to run subs. My Flow 762 now alternates between the 2 Grendel’s and a Scar 17 SBR. I also purchased a second Velos LBP 762 to go only my girls 14.5” 6.5 Grendel so I hope to compare the Velos on the 14.5” to the Flow 762 on my 13.9” Grendel. Unfortunately I haven’t had a chance to shoot either of the Velos setups as of yet.

 

[Charmingmander]

Real question I have is what's the best flow through suppressor that doesn't suck under NODs?

 

[MaxMoneyMinSense]

Real question I have is what's the best flow through suppressor that doesn't suck under NODs?

They only tested the Infinity (with various end caps) in 5.56 and 7.62 and compared it to the gold standard RC2 in 5.56 and I'll let you be the judge of how it performs. Fast forward to 23:38 for the low-light and night vision tests.

 

[Rob01]

Damn $1250 for a 20 ounce can without mount is a little steep for that heft.

 

[MaxMoneyMinSense]

Damn $1250 for a 20 ounce can without mount is a little steep for that heft.

Yea it's pretty pricey. But IMO it's probably the best all around can out there right now, especially with the swappable end caps. And this thing is supposed to last forever and take whatever you throw at it (including FA, unlike the bold claims of "FA" but only 20 round strings every 10 minutes made by manufacturers of Ti cans) given that it's made of inconel.

If you want a Ti one, the Texas Flood is literally the same can (confirmed by Andrew from OCL) just made out of titanium instead of inconel, and it's "only" $1000.

https://www.fletcherrw.com/product/texas-flood/

 

[Rob01]

Yea it's pretty pricey. But IMO it's probably the best all around can out there right now, especially with the swappable end caps. And this thing is supposed to last forever and take whatever you throw at it given that it's made of inconel.

If you want a Ti one, the Texas Flood is literally the same can (confirmed by Andrew from OCL) just made out of titanium instead of inconel, and it's "only" $1000.

https://www.fletcherrw.com/product/texas-flood/

Dead Air has the new Sandman X at 14.5 ounces and $949 with Silencer Shop paying tax stamp and it’s made of Haynes 282 which is supposed to be pretty tough also.

 

[Charmingmander]

They only tested the Infinity (with various end caps) in 5.56 and 7.62 and compared it to the gold standard RC2 in 5.56 and I'll let you be the judge of how it performs. Fast forward to 23:38 for the low-light and night vision tests.

How about one that doesn't add over a pound of weight to the end of the gun? If I'm going that high in weight and at that price I'd rather just get an RC2 and build the rifle around that.

 

[hlee]

How about one that doesn't add over a pound of weight to the end of the gun? If I'm going that high in weight and at that price I'd rather just get an RC2 and build the rifle around that.