Rifle Scopes best performing laser rangefinder?????

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Ok, I have read several post stating the best laser rangefinder is????????, but I have some legitimate bitches and questions, for example, the leica crf 1200, there are a couple of us here in Oklahoma that have gotten serious about long range shooting, and by that, im talking 1000 yards to say 1500 yards, and nothing pisses me off any more than trying to range a man sized torso targer at 800 or 900 yards with my leica crf and just having it blink at me, with no reading, and the color of the paper target we have posted doesn't seem to really matter. I know there has to be a rangefinder out there that is not affected by mirage as adversly as my leica is and that will perform accurately as advertised out to 1500 or 2000 yards, im sure some of the other long range shooters on here have run into the same problem and any advice coming from experienced personal would be greatly appreciated, as it is nearly impossible to make a one shot one kill scenaro, if you can't accuratly range a target, you damn sure cant dial elevation to hit it.
 
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I'd look at the vectronics rangefinders. I'm not being a terd but there is an ongoing thread somewhere on here on these rangefinders. They are pretty pricey but I think I'll be buying one soon. I agree with u there is no reason having these rifles and scopes and not knowing an exact range. Good luck with your search.
Dustin
 
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The swaro doesn't handle the mirage any better than the leica. I own both and can honestly say to sell the leica and get a vectronics. Don't waste your money on anything else you won't be happy with the swaro for what you are wanting to do.

Dustin
 
#10
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it kills the leica, a 1200crf has trouble big time on a hot sunny day out past 600 - 700 yards, two of us that shoot on a regular basis have absolute hell getting readings out past those distances but they seem to be fine toward dusk or dawn as it cools off
 
#11
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damn, thats a shit load of money but whats the point of having a schmidt and bender scope on a surgeon rifle if you cant tell how far away your target is, how much for the vectronics exactly and is that what you are running???
 
#12
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You could always mil your targets. Set up something that is 6 feet tall at whatever questionable range it is, mil it and do the math. TBH I haven't had those problems with my leica (I have the smaller 1200) but a buddy has an older large 1200 and we couldn't get it to ready anything the other day past 500 - wasn't that hot maybe 90 but lots of heat mirage.

Maybe PM the libertyoptics guy or cameraland and ask them? I think (not sure) that zeiss makes a 1500 one that is very accurate and reliable.
 
#13
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I've had the Leica 1200scan and now have the swaro. For me the swarovski is hands down better, but it still doesn't hold a candle to the vectronics. If I had the extra cash laying around I would love to have one.
 
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Seems like mirage would make it hard to mil range @ 1000 yards. I can only say that my Swaro is better than the Nikon that I had. But whether it will solve your problem I don't know and kind of doubt it. I've gotten readings out to 1900+ yards, but that was from hilltop to hilltop and in temperatures below 50F. So there was nothing but several hundred feet of air in between and conditions not conducive to mirage even at ground level.
 
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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: azimutha</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Seems like mirage would make it hard to mil range @ 1000 yards.</div></div>

I've done it, the thing is you have to have a more or less level plain between the object and you and know its exact size. I live in a pretty dry area though so no humidity to deal with (I don't know if that causes more mirage or not).

There is a post in the beyond 1000 forum about rangefinders, the vectronix PLRF10 is the one that they seem to like but it is not cheap...
 
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you seriously need to try the bushnell fusion 1600. it flat ass blows away anything less than a vectronix that i have tried and i have tried most all of them. i am in no way affiliated but share the same frustration with just about every rangefinder i have had and used(next to the vectronix). the fusion is unbelieveable to say the least. i know some others that recently purchased one and can attest as well. its a bino combo so it's a liitle bigger but it ranges dumb shit like 4ft pine tree @ 1798yds into the sun instantly.....

i think bushnell might have got one right.

dg
 
#20
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Is the leica 1200 you're using the older model? I have the newer 1200 and i haven't had a single issue with ranging various vegetation out to 1100 and 1200 yds at all times during the day. Solid objects I've ranged consistently out to 1360+ yds. Biggest issue I have is having a steady rest to range from as offhand anything past 500 yds smaller objects are tough to keep the aimpoint steady on.

Mike
 
#22
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I've got the Zeiss and I can range to 1300-1400 no problem in heat/mirage. Haven't tried farther than that. Optics are very nice. Can't compare to the Swaro or Leica though. I have been very pleased with it. Hands down better than the Nikon and Leupold that I've used in the past. You may want to look into the new Leica 1600 as well.
 
#23
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I'll second the zeiss binocular/rangefinder! The beam divergence is as good as the vector. (the minocular is different)

I haven't ranged past 1200yds but that was a skylined telephone pole.
 
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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: DGUNN</div><div class="ubbcode-body">you seriously need to try the bushnell fusion 1600. it flat ass blows away anything less than a vectronix that i have tried and i have tried most all of them. i am in no way affiliated but share the same frustration with just about every rangefinder i have had and used(next to the vectronix). the fusion is unbelieveable to say the least. i know some others that recently purchased one and can attest as well. its a bino combo so it's a liitle bigger but it ranges dumb shit like 4ft pine tree @ 1798yds into the sun instantly.....

i think bushnell might have got one right.

dg </div></div>

I second that. Heres something I posted in a thread of mine regarding the range I acheived using the Bushnell Fusion

I had taken these pictures last week and I do appologise for the average photo quality, I used an iPhone and it was difficult to say the least. From my window I could see a water tower in the distance (Middle of the picture below, tiny white spec). I waited until ambient light levels dropped a little before i attempted to laser this water tower. Now, the box for this unit states that the max range of this LRF is 1600 yards of a reflective surface. Upon trying to range this distant location, i noticed it took several seconds longer to register. A few seconds later the unit read 1690 yards... 90 yards over the retailers max. Not being too sure how accurate this was i jumped on good maps and punched in my location and the water towers location and found the distance between the two objects. Well will you look at that! 1553 meters or 1698 yards! Keep in mind there could be a margin of error according to where I clicked on the two map points, but regardless theres only an 8 yard difference between what this unit read and what google maps says.

So in a nutshell I lasered 1690 Yards, google distance tells me its 1698 yards but then again Im not sure If google has my exact distance or the spot I lasered as the right choice... if that makes sense.

For something thats significantly cheaper than the European brand LRF's I think it does a pretty good job.

fusion4.jpg

fusion5.jpg

HyattLombardWaterTower.jpg


If you look at the photo above it says 1553.362 Meters which is 1698 yards. Clearly this measurement can be off slightly based on the scale of the map however, if you consider the two results its pretty darn close.
 
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All of the leicas I've used have ranged well beyond their advertised maximum range. As I stated earlier I have been able to range vegetation/trees past 1350 yards with my Leica CRF 1200. Not saying this is the best LRF on the market but it is a very solid unit, and I doubt I'll ever need anything better.

Mike
 
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I have had my Swaro for about two years. It works great, no complaints from me. Can't say if it's worth the couple hundred extra than the Leica, I have never tried one. I will say that the glass on mine, like all Swaro products, is exceptional.
 
#27
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I've tried the Vetronics and it will get you readings past any of the Swarovski, Leicas. My friend has the Vetronics and he says it will cost you around $1.00 per yard, It will read out to 3500yards.
 
#28
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There was a long range Unknown Distance (UKD) rifle match a few weeks ago in Western Oklahoma.
I used my Leica 1200 Scan and it was pretty much useless in the bright sunlight past 600 yards where I needed it the worst.
The mirage made the targets dance like a drunk chick which made my milling just as worthless as the laser.
The guy next to me was using a set of the Bushnell 1600 binoculars and it worked way better than my piece of crap.
As best I could tell most of the shooters at the top were using the $3700 Vectronics. I got to play with a set and it worked just fine on a 12" round steel at 1056. He told me it worked just as well on the 1100 yard plate.

The bottom line for me was that if you spend the big bucks on the Vectronics, it will work all the way out to the practical limitations of whatever rifle you happen to be utilizing.
With anything less a good 338 Lapua rig can shoot effectively past the effective range of the rangefinder. That really sucks because way out there is actually when you need the range finder the most.

I spent $700 on the Leica back when they were considered to be top of the line. If I buy a Vectronics it should be the last rangefinder I will ever need. Now all I gotta do if figure out how to come up with 4K.
 
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