Bipod mount for B & C A5 Medalist

[Canuck-IL]

Morning all,

I recently acquired a B&C A5 - per the factory, the front rail is a #6 - 3/8" - it came with a single stud mounted in the rail which is fine for a sling, but ...

I tried mounting a bipod but the curvature on the bipod's upper plate digs into the very wide foreend before it's snugged down. So, what I need is some sort of adaptor with a stud that mounts in the #6 rail (Anschutz? Freeland?) and provides enough stand-off to get the bipod secured without chewing the stock. I've scanned both Champions, Sinclair, etc. and can't seem to locate what I'd need.

Any suggestions would be appreciated.
/Bryan
ETA: Perhaps I need a different bipod - one with a dead flat top plate??

 

[squin]

Re: Bipod mount for B & C A5 Medalist

Assuming you have a Harris bipod, you need a Harris #9 adapter. Would probably work fine for other bipods similar to the Harris. My Les Baer Tactical bolt action came with a B&C Medalist Tactical stock and also included a Harris Bipod with the #9 Adapter. Fits right over the existing sling stud. Works great.

Harris Bipod Adapter #9

 

[Canuck-IL]

Re: Bipod mount for B & C A5 Medalist

Thanks much!
/B

Nope - I looked it up - I already have the #6 ,what I need would be a taller #6 but they don't appear to offer such a critter. The #9 wouldn't sit in the Anschutz rail channel.
The search continues.

 

[Wuzup101]

Re: Bipod mount for B & C A5 Medalist

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Canuck-IL</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Thanks much!
/B

Nope - I looked it up - I already have the #6 ,what I need would be a taller #6 but they don't appear to offer such a critter. The #9 wouldn't sit in the Anschutz rail channel.
The search continues. </div></div>

If you have the Harris bipod system, the #9 adapter linked above is what you want to mate to that stock (I personally own and shoot all of the above items). The #9 adapter does not sit in the rail. It effectively allows you to mate a harris bipod that is designed for a normal rounded front stock to a flat front stock like the A5. It fits between the stock and the mounting point on the bipod. I'm not aware of any adapter for the harris system to fit the actual rail on the B&C A5. The #9 adapter still uses the sling stud mount. If you wanted to mount a sling and didn't want to mount it to the bipod's stud, you would need to get a second stud for the rail.

Am I correct to assume that you are even using a harris system?

 

[Canuck-IL]

Re: Bipod mount for B & C A5 Medalist

Thanks for the help!

I'm having trouble visualizing how the #9 fits to solve the issue ...

Pic of #9 http://www.harrisbipods.com/HB9.html

So, does the #9 mate to the #6 stud and then the bipod to the #9? I can't see a stud mounting point on the pic above

The bipod is a Harris clone - the one from the ongoing group buy here.

Thanks much for the help ... frustrating to finally upgrade the stock and not be able to get the bipod onto it!
/Bryan

 

[Southpaw357]

Re: Bipod mount for B & C A5 Medalist

Hello I have the B&C A5 stock. shot it today at a 60 round prone F class hi power match

I have a harris bipod and I do not need to use any sort of adaptor to attach it to the factory installed swivel stud that sits in the rail. You just have to keep messing with it I think. Basically the bipod has these two jaws - each side of the jaw clamps on its respective side of the sling stud. then you tighten the screw to clamp everything down.

 

[Wuzup101]

Re: Bipod mount for B & C A5 Medalist

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Canuck-IL</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Thanks for the help!

I'm having trouble visualizing how the #9 fits to solve the issue ...

Pic of #9 http://www.harrisbipods.com/HB9.html

So, does the #9 mate to the #6 stud and then the bipod to the #9? I can't see a stud mounting point on the pic above

The bipod is a Harris clone - the one from the ongoing group buy here.

Thanks much for the help ... frustrating to finally upgrade the stock and not be able to get the bipod onto it!
/Bryan </div></div>

I will try to take a picture of it tomorrow morning for you (mounted on my gun). However, in the picture you linked, the side shown goes away from the stock (towards the bipod). There are 2 "arms" that are adjustable in/out at the top of that picture. Those arms secure the adapter across the width of the stock. The round hole in the plate is where the sling stud fits (the one that came stock on your A5), and the "wings" on either side of the hole is where the harris clamps fit to attach to the sling stud.

With the above being said, you do not actually NEED this adapter to attach the harris system to the A5 (as the poster above says). The downside of not having it is that the bipod does not have anything to keep it from pivoting without this adapter (for $20 it's worth it). You should be able to mount your harris (or clone) system to the A5 without the adapter. If you can't, than it's not an exact clone.

 

[squin]

Re: Bipod mount for B & C A5 Medalist

The #9 adapter slips over the sling stud with the stud protruding through the adapter plate. The #9 adapter is adjusted to the width of the stock. The bipod attaches to the sling stud as usual. When you tighten the bipod it sandwiches the adapter plate in between the bipod and the rifle stock. The profile of the Harris bipod mates to the adapter perfectly while the adapter plate itself matches the profile of the stock.

 

[Canuck-IL]

Re: Bipod mount for B & C A5 Medalist

Thanks to all - I get the picture of the stud protruding thru the adaptor plate - and that makes sense for the stability I'm not getting with the bipod directly against the stock/rail. I'm unsure about the stud protruding far enough thru to get a grip on it but, as you noted for $20 some bucks, I'm certainly going to give it a try.

In the am I'll try it again with just the std #6 and try to get a pic - perhaps it's not a "clone enough" to work as Southpaw said it does for him.

Thanks again!
/Bryan

 

[squin]

Re: Bipod mount for B & C A5 Medalist

Here's some pics of the #9 adapter on a B&C Medalist stock.

 

[squin]

Re: Bipod mount for B & C A5 Medalist

Another option to consider is to add the AFAR rail adapter and use a quick disconnect on the bipod itself. I share a single Harris bipod across multiple rifles like this. Very sturdy and convenient. Cost a bit more, but you only need one bipod.

AFAR kit

ADM bipod adapter

 

[Canuck-IL]

Re: Bipod mount for B & C A5 Medalist

Excellent pics!! Thanks very much ... I'll be getting one of those 2 solutions for sure ... I could cobble it up with some leather/hard rubber spacers but the adaptor looks like the way to go. I'll take a look at the other solution as well altho at the moment that's the only gun I'd use a bipod with.

Thanks again!
/Bryan

 

[Aries64]

Re: Bipod mount for B & C A5 Medalist

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Canuck-IL</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Excellent pics!! Thanks very much ... I'll be getting one of those 2 solutions for sure ... I could cobble it up with some leather/hard rubber spacers but the adaptor looks like the way to go. I'll take a look at the other solution as well altho at the moment that's the only gun I'd use a bipod with.

Thanks again!
/Bryan </div></div>
Bryan,

Forget adapters. A better, much more eloquent bipod mounting solution on your B & C stock would be the combination of the <span style="font-weight: bold"><span style="font-style: italic">ACCU-SHOT BT28 AFAR Kit</span></span> and a <span style="font-weight: bold"><span style="font-style: italic">Larue LT706 QD Mount + Harris BRM-S</span></span> (Harris 6-9" Notched / Swivel Bipod). <span style="font-weight: bold">If you have an existing Harris bipod, you can also buy the LT706 QD Mount from Larue for $79.00 and convert a standard bipod stud mount Harris with the "saddle"/platform into a QD bipod.</span> I bought a complete "Combo" from Larue, then later I bought the LT706 Mount ONLY to convert existing Harris bipods. An LT706 + Harris has advantages over a standard bipod that attaches with a bipod stud and has a "saddle"/platform that bears against the bottom of the fore arm:

(a) The "saddle"/platform on a Harris is designed for use with narrow, rounded fore ams. The wide, flat fore arm of the B& C Medalist stock, like the McMillan A5 stock, doesn't allow the "saddle"/platform to properly cradle the forearm or allow the bipod's two pincers to snug up as tightly as on stocks' with narrower fore ends. <span style="font-weight: bold">The result is that the bipod stud that is threaded into the Harris bipod adapter that rides in an Anschutz or Freeland Rail can sometimes loosen-up, allowing the Harris's "saddle"/platform to rotate under recoil.</span> The BT28's short picatinny rail provides a more more solid mounting point than the bipod stud and does not allow the Harris to rotate under recoil.

(b) The elimination of the bipod stud and the "saddle"/platform reduces stacking of unnecessary parts and lowers the overall height (and center of gravity) slightly, contributing to stability.

My brother has the B & C Medallist Varmint Tactical Adjustable stock, and after seeing my BT28 AFAR and LT706 + BRM-S Combo he wanted the same setup, so I test fit the BT28 in the rail of his B & C and found that it fits and works perfectly. You can even use the SHORT pair of screws that ACCU-SHOT provides (ACCU-SHOT provides a SHORT pair and a LONG pair of screws). The SHORT pair is actually the perfect length for a B & C with Rail, unlike with the Anschutz Rail on a McMillan, which is a thicker, more heavy-duty rail that doesn't work well with the SHORT screws.

I don't have any photos of the BT28 AFAR in my brother's B & C. but below are two photos of a BT28 AFAR as it comes from ACCU-SHOT, as well as three more after being coated in Birdsong <span style="font-style: italic">"Tac Ops OD"</span> Green-T & Black-T. The last two photos show a Birdsong-coated BT28 AFAR in the Anschutz Rail of my Tac Ops X-Ray 51 with a Larue LT706 Harris BRM-S Combo + Gen 2 KMW Podloc mounted on the BT28. The BT28 works so well that I bought 5 of the LT706 Mounts to convert more Harris bipods.

BTW, I highly recommend that you buy the KMW PodLoc for use on the Swivel-type (<span style="font-weight: bold"><span style="font-style: italic">"S"</span> Series</span>) Harris', as the huge, clunky Larue Pivot Tension Knob is so big theres' no clearance to grasp and turn the Pivot Tension Knob.

<span style="font-weight: bold"><span style="font-style: italic">Un-coated BT28 Accessory Rail installed in the Anschutz Rail of my Tac Ops X-Ray 51:</span></span>

<span style="font-weight: bold"><span style="font-style: italic">BT28 AFAR in Tac Ops OD Green-T major mounted in the Anschutz Rail of my Tac Ops X-Ray 51:</span></span>

<span style="font-weight: bold"><span style="font-style: italic">Tac Ops X-Ray 51 with BT28 Accessory Rail installed in Anschutz Rail with Harris BRM-S + LT706 QD Swivel Mount Combo</span></span> <span style="font-weight: bold"><span style="font-style: italic">+ Gen 2 Pod Loc:</span></span>

Keith

 

[Canuck-IL]

Re: Bipod mount for B & C A5 Medalist

Aries,
Thanks for the additional comments ... looks like a great setup.

I think however to get my feet wet with both a scope and bipod (finally giving up on the eyesight!), I'll start with the much lower cost #9 Harris adaptor and see where to go after that.

Nice looking gun!
/Bryan

 

[Aries64]

Re: Bipod mount for B & C A5 Medalist

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Canuck-IL</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Aries,
Thanks for the additional comments ... looks like a great setup.</div></div>
No problem. The BT28 and LT706/Harris are a great setup and work extremely well.

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Canuck-IL</div><div class="ubbcode-body">I think however to get my feet wet with both a scope and bipod (finally giving up on the eyesight!), I'll start with the much lower cost #9 Harris adaptor and see where to go after that.</div></div>
Perfectly understandable. After you are more experienced with the scope and bipod, you may find that you need something more stabile.

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Canuck-IL</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Nice looking gun!
/Bryan </div></div>
Thanks Bryan - you don't know the half of it. One has to handle and shoot a Tac Ops rifle to understand what makes them so highly sought after and special.


Keith

 

[deanq]

Re: Bipod mount for B & C A5 Medalist

Keith,
Thanks for sharing the pics. Very nice setup. Excellent solution.
Dean

 

[Canuck-IL]

Re: Bipod mount for B & C A5 Medalist

Getting there - thanks to the help on SH!

Rem 700 26" barrel in 308 with B&C A5 stock, brand X scope and bipod, Harris #6 stud and #9 adaptor in the Anschutz rail. 15 break-in rounds then 3, 5 shot groups at 100 with some leftover 4064 (43.3gr) using 155 Noslers ... .85, .92 and 1.1 groups.

On to load development, reduce trigger pull, more range time...
/B