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Suppressors Blackhawk Serpa holster for Glock?

#2
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I had a serpa drop holster, and I just couldn't get use to that retention device. I had to disable it. If you can train enough with it you should be good, I am just stuck in my ways and doubt I can perform a smooth draw with that holster 100% of the time under stress.
 
#4
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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: LibertyOptics</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Anyone use this rig?</div></div>

Carry a G-27 in one, and a G-35 on a drop leg, for comp's. You need to get a little time with one, before working them for real. After your use to it,.. it's like a bike. Trick is a smooth an controlled draw.
 
#5
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I use one and like it. I can't draw quite as fast as a "non-retention" kydex that's friction only, but when you're on the move at a match it's nice to be able to re-holster and have the retention engage itself, and not have to worry with snaps etc.
CW
 
#6
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I like the retention function for duty purposes. It's harder for someone to just go for your pistol. When I was in Afghanistan, someone tried to grab a M9 from one of the Soldiers but the local national didn't know how to work the retention on the rig. He just pulled and it didn't work. He got his head bashed in. If he didn't have the retention, the local national would have got his weapon.
 
#7
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I don't like the serpa retention system. And I don't like that kind of movement with the trigger finger under stress.
IF you want to have some retention take a look at the Safariland's ALS or SLS styles.
I prefer non retention holsters for CC.
 
#8
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I was looking on getting one for my 34/35 but the closest one I can find is for the 17/22. I think it would work, but does anyone know for sure. I figure the slide will stick out a bit, but it doesn't really bother me if it works.
 
#9
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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: LibertyOptics</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Guys,

Anyone use this rig? I like leather holsters, but this rig does seem to fit in with the Glock, not sure of the retention being in the trigger guard though?

Thanks,

Scott </div></div>
I have one for my issued glock 26 and LOVE it.So much that after testing we ended up buying 28 of em for the whole office.
With it on your weapon cant fall out, even if I roll, hang upside down or bad guys yank on it. WE TRIED HARD u cant rip it out without engaging the finger release. Train with it and in no time you wont even notice your pressing the release.
Its quite easy just draw naturally with trig finger sliding down to release and depress as you draw & wallah.
Its an extremely safe system for CCW or light duty. As for road dogs or competition there are obviously faster holsters sans the safety the serpa brings, for my purposes weapon retention overides the need for 1/1000 of a second faster
 
#10
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Worth the money, and in my opinion is better than my issued safariland. Just like anything else you just need to train and be proficient with it. Im much faster with it than the safariland and i dont have to worry about the triple retention feature on the Safariland.
 
#11
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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: BX1129</div><div class="ubbcode-body">I like the retention function for duty purposes. It's harder for someone to just go for your pistol. When I was in Afghanistan, someone tried to grab a M9 from one of the Soldiers but the local national didn't know how to work the retention on the rig. He just pulled and it didn't work. He got his head bashed in. If he didn't have the retention, the local national would have got his weapon. </div></div>
Exactly what its made for.
 
#12
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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: acespeedy</div><div class="ubbcode-body">I was looking on getting one for my 34/35 but the closest one I can find is for the 17/22. I think it would work, but does anyone know for sure. I figure the slide will stick out a bit, but it doesn't really bother me if it works. </div></div>


Had the same issue. I used one made for a 22 but modified it to keep my 35 in. The end is now closed except for a weep hole I left to drain water, mud, ect from it.

I molded flat sheet plastic to fit the open end, then glued and drilled holes to lace with heavy wax thread. Been in water, sand, mud and it works w/o issue.
 
#13
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I use one for my G17 when I run tactical matches (sniper competitions). I like it. I don't have to worry about dropping my pistol with the serpa. It's not as fast as a kydex friction holster, or my nylon holster with thumb snap, but with practice it becomes quicker.

One important note: make sure your trigger finger is outside the trigger guard when you holster the weapon. You will drill yourself if you keep one in the pipe!
 
#14
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I also favor leather but these are great holsters. I wore one for a couple years for work. I instruct our agency and I've encouraged many of our people to wear them. All have been very happy but it shows if they have not practiced before they begin to carry.

It takes some practice to remember the lock so take your time with it before you carry one. New users will forget the lock everytime under stress. Keep your finger straight on the draw and it's a very natural release.
 
#15
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The only thing wrong with it is that they don't make one that will take a surefire X300. I love mine!!!! Very fast and very safe.
 
#16
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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Mr blasty</div><div class="ubbcode-body">The only thing wrong with it is that they don't make one that will take a surefire X300. I love mine!!!! Very fast and very safe.</div></div> +1
I'd like to see one made for use with the X300 as well. I believe they make one for BHI's own proprietary weapon-light, but they lost/are losing A LOT of business by not getting onboard with the X300. Good holsters, but I moved on to the RC holsters since they are SF light friendly.
 
#17
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I had one for a G21, I really liked it, I bought a G35 and found out no SERPA for it(G17/22 fits but the muzzle hangs out) so I bought a 511/Bladetech Thumb Drive, hands down the 511 is a better made holester, just as fast, and just as secure, the thigh attachment is only 35 bucks, so something else to consider.
 
#19
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Just remember to keep your bugger hook off the trigger when re-holstering your weapon. This maybe a no s*** thing but there have been some ND's from people doing just that. Also when drawing from your holster it SHOULD place your trigger finger straight and off the trigger. If you find that your finger is on the trigger when drawing you are doing it incorrectly.

The only thing I am worried about it is if the holster can be separated from the paddle while carrying. I do not want to test this on my own holster but if the pistol is grabbed from behind and turned down, will the holster snap off at its attachment points?

Im not sure what holster this is but it represents what I am talking about.

I guess I cant embed the video. Here is the link...


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oDeKtgkZKmQ&feature=related
 
#20
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I have the level 2 Serpa and it's absolutely awesome. I can't describe how much I hate leather or cloth holsters because I always felt they were either too tight, and I couldn't get the gun out (or the holster would come out with the gun), or too loose, and the gun would fall out every five seconds. The same thing with plastic/kydex "retention only" holsters. I like them better, but still not a huge fan.

Obviously you know that the Serpa will lock the gun in place when you holster it, and when you draw it you just press the button and you're good to go. Takes a little getting used to, but I'd much rather do that and feel secure that my gun will not fall out.

On top of that, when you do press the button, as long as you have the retention screw set up properly, there is actually very little "tugg and pull" that a normall retention holster has. The gun just slides out.

Best of both worlds imo. I have one for my Glock 17c and 1911 in the leg holster and hip holster.
 
#21
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Love the Serpa with my 17 and 19. Have a drop leg for my Glock for sniper matches and a belt rig for 3 gun matches and IDPA. Fast drawing and I like being able to stick it back in the holster and not have to worry about securing a top strap or it falling out. One hand draw and holstering with ease.
 
#22
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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: doorkicker</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Mr blasty</div><div class="ubbcode-body">The only thing wrong with it is that they don't make one that will take a surefire X300. I love mine!!!! Very fast and very safe.</div></div> +1
I'd like to see one made for use with the X300 as well. I believe they make one for BHI's own proprietary weapon-light, but they lost/are losing A LOT of business by not getting onboard with the X300. Good holsters, but I moved on to the RC holsters since they are SF light friendly. </div></div>

I actually had that same problem with mine. I carry a 22 with a Streamlight on it (the smaller model) and it would not work with even the model that was made for the BH light. So with about 15 minutes and a pencil grinder I was able to remove some material to make it holster safely. Its on their drop leg rig for comps or classes.
 
#23
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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: KYshooter338$</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: doorkicker</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Mr blasty</div><div class="ubbcode-body">The only thing wrong with it is that they don't make one that will take a surefire X300. I love mine!!!! Very fast and very safe.</div></div> +1
I'd like to see one made for use with the X300 as well. I believe they make one for BHI's own proprietary weapon-light, but they lost/are losing A LOT of business by not getting onboard with the X300. Good holsters, but I moved on to the RC holsters since they are SF light friendly. </div></div>

I actually had that same problem with mine. I carry a 22 with a Streamlight on it (the smaller model) and it would not work with even the model that was made for the BH light. So with about 15 minutes and a pencil grinder I was able to remove some material to make it holster safely. Its on their drop leg rig for comps or classes. </div></div>

Can you post some pics? This sounds like it would be the perfect open carry/run and gun rig!
 
#24
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I will when I get it back. Left it in FL at my grandads home when I was down there hog hunting in the swamps
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Got rushed trying to pack and left it, Drove off and 3 hours later he calls and says you left your damn holster in your room!
 
#25
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Except for my IWB concealed carry holsters, all I now use is the Blackhawk Serpa. I've had people (training partners) yank upward on the pistol enough to start picking me up off the ground (I'm 6' 1" and 230lbs) and the holsters have never broken or released the weapon. Sideways pulls have only served to test how strong my belt and pants are.

The main complaint I hear is that some people try yanking up on the pistol before the button is pushed, therefore making it virtually impossible to release the weapon. But, IMO this is a training issue and is actually a good thing, as it means if someone else is pulling on my weapon and I'm pulling away, they'll never be able to release the retention device.

As for using the trigger finger to release the pistol, it's never been an issue for me. If your finger is on the button and simply slides up with the pistol, the finger will lay along the frame above and in front of the trigger just as it should. IMO, the finger going straight to the trigger is just an untrained shooter issue, and their finger would go there no matter what holster they draw from.

FWIW, I own standard Serpa holsters for G17(G22, etc), G21, 1911 and XD. For SRT use, I have the drop-leg level 2 for my 1911 (the level 3 wasn't available at that time) and the level 3 drop-leg for my G17.

The level 3 Serpa is by far my favorite level 3 holster, as it is both secure and very fast to use.
 
#26
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I picked one up a while ago and have not had much time with it but prefer the retention Vs a strap. The thing I do not like most, weapon does not fit as snug, rattles around in the holster. I carried Comp Tech IWB for years and weapon slides in very tight with no wiggle.
 
#27
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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: 45.308</div><div class="ubbcode-body"> weapon does not fit as snug, rattles around in the holster.
</div></div>
That is ajustable via the phillips screw on the side.
 
#29
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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Gunfighter14e2</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: 45.308</div><div class="ubbcode-body"> weapon does not fit as snug, rattles around in the holster.
</div></div>
That is ajustable via the phillips screw on the side. </div></div>

Did this first day, still rattles.

Thanks
 
#30
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All I have/had will tighten down to the point you really have to pull hard to get them out. Have you tried another one to see if it's the same?
 
#31
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I prefer SERPAs both downrange and for IDPA matches. It's a great design, and I haven't had issues once I developed the muscle memory for drawing.
 
#32
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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: krink85</div><div class="ubbcode-body">The only thing I am worried about it is if the holster can be separated from the paddle while carrying. I do not want to test this on my own holster but if the pistol is grabbed from behind and turned down, will the holster snap off at its attachment points?</div></div>

I used a Serpa while I attended the Police Academy earlier this year. During weapon retention training, the "bad guy" grabbed my gun and after the "struggle" I ended up holding a holstered pistol out in front of my body, belt attachment point still on my belt. The screws holding the holster to the belt attachment pulled right through. To finish the academy, I simply took the screws out and reattached the holster. From that point on, I swore to not use them for duty. For plain-clothes/off duty and competition I'd say they're fine, but not on my duty belt.
 
#33
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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Gunfighter14e2</div><div class="ubbcode-body">All I have/had will tighten down to the point you really have to pull hard to get them out. Have you tried another one to see if it's the same? </div></div>

Tried another BH Serpa yesterday, the screw will pull the finger very tight on the guard and yes I could not draw but there is still slop around the weapon as a whole. The plastic finger on the guard acts like a fulcrum and allows the weapon to pivot on it. Its not bad just annoying, I think BH builds some extra room compared to the Comp-Techs I have that start out very snug around the whole weapon.

I plan on getting a thigh rig from BH someday, not that I need one just want one and I like the BH ridged design Vs soft panel.

Thanks
 
#34
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I have 1 for my 1911 and 1 for my XD. I am very happy with both, just practice with it and you should be happy
 
#35
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There are more than a few instructors who discourage their use at their schools.

I've got a buddy that really enjoys breaking them at his retention and disarm classes.

Any holster which requires you to apply inward pressure with your trigger finger is just a flawed design. When there are alternatives, I don't see any reason to put up with this design. The Safariland ALS is a great option for an open-top concealment holster.

I watched 2 police officers this past weekend wrestle with their Serpa's, trying to get them out with nothing more than the added stress of a shot timer next to their ear. The other systems like the BladeTech or the Safariland ALS have much larger releases activated with the thumb...far better system, IMO.

I've used the Serpa on both 1911's and Glocks, I sell a ton of them at work...but I think there are WAY better options out there for the same purpose, which sell for the same money (Safariland 6377/6378).
 
#36
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I have been using SERPA CQC holsters for GLOCKs for a few years now,I haven't had any major problems with them. I live and shoot in the Sonoran desert, so lots of sand, dust and grit which just dishes out massive amounts of havoc on kydex (binding etc) once you start rolling around in it. As some have already mentioned, there are perceived flaws with the SERPA design. A claim that depressing the release paddle on a SERPA holster causes a safety hazard confuse me a bit. I can only speak for the GLOCK SERPA holsters, but I would have to be a complete and determined idiot to allow my trigger finger to end up inside the trigger guard on a draw.

Another known problem is having the paddle release bind, thus locking your sidearm in the holster. This has happened a few times on me, unlike the dramatic videos on youtube, a simple solution exists for me. Instead of pulling on the holster with all your might, simply push down on the pistol and allow the paddle to reset, doing this has always cleared the material causing the binding. I have had my pistol stuck in a tension only retention Bladetech holster, a handful of sand can wreck a good plan regardless...
 
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