Re: Bloom Box - Energy Solution or BS?
That shows some value. I can see the price of natural gas going through the roof along with propane. The energy companies will have to maintain a share holder value and they will not go away without a fight.
I could switch my 103 pound lab over to a lamb and rice diet and use dog farts for the fuel. He could supply the whole block if needed
That shows some value. I can see the price of natural gas going through the roof along with propane. The energy companies will have to maintain a share holder value and they will not go away without a fight.
I could switch my 103 pound lab over to a lamb and rice diet and use dog farts for the fuel. He could supply the whole block if needed
Re: Bloom Box - Energy Solution or BS?
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Sean the Nailer</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Looking at learning more about this. </div></div>
If you find anything let me know as I will be looking too.
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Sean the Nailer</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Looking at learning more about this. </div></div>
If you find anything let me know as I will be looking too.
Re: Bloom Box - Energy Solution or BS?
I could see it working. Similar to a catalyst and the hydrogen fuel cell on the new versions of hybrids. Energy is never free but if you just happened to have access to cheap fuel like NG it could work.
I could see it working. Similar to a catalyst and the hydrogen fuel cell on the new versions of hybrids. Energy is never free but if you just happened to have access to cheap fuel like NG it could work.
Re: Bloom Box - Energy Solution or BS?
Tucker, I caught the end of the show...looked on the up and up. Several major companies including Yahoo are going with it and realizing a saving. They already have electric turbines that are about the size of yuour dishwasher and about the same decible level that will produce the electricty for 5 or 6 house holds and run of of CMG, or Propane, and cheaper than the grid. Lets hope for the best....It woulod be nice to be able to tell the electric co adios, MF's
Tucker, I caught the end of the show...looked on the up and up. Several major companies including Yahoo are going with it and realizing a saving. They already have electric turbines that are about the size of yuour dishwasher and about the same decible level that will produce the electricty for 5 or 6 house holds and run of of CMG, or Propane, and cheaper than the grid. Lets hope for the best....It woulod be nice to be able to tell the electric co adios, MF's
Re: Bloom Box - Energy Solution or BS?
Here in Kalifornia the reason so many go with their own PPP (personal power plants) is that the cost of electricity is many times more costly per KWhr for biz than for home. It is near extortion rates. A local company here that many may know (Buck Knives) left my town "almost" exclusively because the cost of electricity.
Here in Kalifornia the reason so many go with their own PPP (personal power plants) is that the cost of electricity is many times more costly per KWhr for biz than for home. It is near extortion rates. A local company here that many may know (Buck Knives) left my town "almost" exclusively because the cost of electricity.
Re: Bloom Box - Energy Solution or BS?
I contacted them about sending a couple for testing. No reason to doubt, and every reason to see if they are all that and a bag o chips. Besides, if they send a couple for testing, that means any power they generate goes into the system, makes the meter go backwards or whatever, and we get a check instead of sending one in each month.
I contacted them about sending a couple for testing. No reason to doubt, and every reason to see if they are all that and a bag o chips. Besides, if they send a couple for testing, that means any power they generate goes into the system, makes the meter go backwards or whatever, and we get a check instead of sending one in each month.
Re: Bloom Box - Energy Solution or BS?
Don't know about your AO but in Kali there are a lot of solar cell homes and turning the meter backwards works all the way to the point you pay nothing. Going further than that they will only give you the wholesale price on power put back in the grid. Pennies on the dollar.
Don't know about your AO but in Kali there are a lot of solar cell homes and turning the meter backwards works all the way to the point you pay nothing. Going further than that they will only give you the wholesale price on power put back in the grid. Pennies on the dollar.
Re: Bloom Box - Energy Solution or BS?
Just a wee ride south of Bardstown in the smoky hills of Mid Tennessee. Shoot, pennies on the dollar are better than a kick to the groin.
Just a wee ride south of Bardstown in the smoky hills of Mid Tennessee. Shoot, pennies on the dollar are better than a kick to the groin.
Re: Bloom Box - Energy Solution or BS?
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Goldie</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Tucker, I caught the end of the show...looked on the up and up. Several major companies including Yahoo are going with it and realizing a saving. They already have electric turbines that are about the size of yuour dishwasher and about the same decible level that will produce the electricty for 5 or 6 house holds and run of of CMG, or Propane, and cheaper than the grid. Lets hope for the best....It woulod be nice to be able to tell the electric co adios, MF's </div></div>
And tell OPEC to screw themselves as well. Once and for all!
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Goldie</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Tucker, I caught the end of the show...looked on the up and up. Several major companies including Yahoo are going with it and realizing a saving. They already have electric turbines that are about the size of yuour dishwasher and about the same decible level that will produce the electricty for 5 or 6 house holds and run of of CMG, or Propane, and cheaper than the grid. Lets hope for the best....It woulod be nice to be able to tell the electric co adios, MF's </div></div>
And tell OPEC to screw themselves as well. Once and for all!
Re: Bloom Box - Energy Solution or BS?
I don't know if <span style="font-style: italic">this</span> particular solution is the answer. I suspect we'll have many different "answers" before we can all settle on something that both accomplishes the goal of being independent of fossil fuels that are no good for the environment and a cost that mere mortals can afford. Either way, every advancement is a good one.
At this point in time, solar is only an option for those who are mainly interested in their environmental impact, and are willing to pay a premium to keep their personal carbon footprint down. I looked into getting solar, but was told outright that the installation of the proper system (I was interested in powering my entire home via solar) would cost far more than the savings I would get in return for using it. I was willing to spend up to $50,000 or $60,000 in order to get the system up and running but was told by the engineer who came out that my budget would get me a system that would create perhaps 25-30% of my home needs. I didn't see the investment as worth while. Not until the technology comes down significantly in price.
Wind can only be used in certain places, and I'm not one of them. Either way, that isn't cheap either.
We need to really think about alternative energies as a people, and we should all consider investing in a private company to help get the ball rolling. I don't want tax dollars to take care of the issue (it will cost far more and we will get far less doing it that way, and it will take much longer), but we need to take responsibility and not insist on passing the buck. Private investing in real alternative energies is the only way.
I don't know if <span style="font-style: italic">this</span> particular solution is the answer. I suspect we'll have many different "answers" before we can all settle on something that both accomplishes the goal of being independent of fossil fuels that are no good for the environment and a cost that mere mortals can afford. Either way, every advancement is a good one.
At this point in time, solar is only an option for those who are mainly interested in their environmental impact, and are willing to pay a premium to keep their personal carbon footprint down. I looked into getting solar, but was told outright that the installation of the proper system (I was interested in powering my entire home via solar) would cost far more than the savings I would get in return for using it. I was willing to spend up to $50,000 or $60,000 in order to get the system up and running but was told by the engineer who came out that my budget would get me a system that would create perhaps 25-30% of my home needs. I didn't see the investment as worth while. Not until the technology comes down significantly in price.
Wind can only be used in certain places, and I'm not one of them. Either way, that isn't cheap either.
We need to really think about alternative energies as a people, and we should all consider investing in a private company to help get the ball rolling. I don't want tax dollars to take care of the issue (it will cost far more and we will get far less doing it that way, and it will take much longer), but we need to take responsibility and not insist on passing the buck. Private investing in real alternative energies is the only way.
Re: Bloom Box - Energy Solution or BS?
If it is to save the environment and low pollution we should have gone the way of the French and use 100% clean nuclear energy.
If it is to save the environment and low pollution we should have gone the way of the French and use 100% clean nuclear energy.
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I don't know, the whole, oxygen and fuel go in, electricity goes out, with no moving parts, seems like this
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I don't know, the whole, oxygen and fuel go in, electricity goes out, with no moving parts, seems like this
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Re: Bloom Box - Energy Solution or BS?
This will help you out with understanding an "actual" fuel cell.
http://auto.howstuffworks.com/fuel-efficiency/alternative-fuels/fuel-cell.htm
This will help you out with understanding an "actual" fuel cell.
http://auto.howstuffworks.com/fuel-efficiency/alternative-fuels/fuel-cell.htm
Re: Bloom Box - Energy Solution or BS?
AS long as there are V Twins and V-8's with pushrods or even overhead cams I will just have to have dinosaur based fuels in at least 93 Octane, and preferred in 100 Octane.
Electricity and Electric powered cars are for granola munching soft shoe wearing hippies. I DO like the idea of not paying an electric bill though so even sun power and batteries would be good
AS long as there are V Twins and V-8's with pushrods or even overhead cams I will just have to have dinosaur based fuels in at least 93 Octane, and preferred in 100 Octane.
Electricity and Electric powered cars are for granola munching soft shoe wearing hippies. I DO like the idea of not paying an electric bill though so even sun power and batteries would be good
Re: Bloom Box - Energy Solution or BS?
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: The Mechanic</div><div class="ubbcode-body">If it is to save the environment and low pollution we should have gone the way of the French and use 100% clean nuclear energy. </div></div>
But nuclear in the long run isn't any better. The broken down materials that occur during reactions in order to make said power, which are nuclear, have to be stored for eternity. Ask anyone in the Chernobyl area how that worked out.
Even better is to go the route of Brazil and use 100% bio-fuel in their cars. They are 100% independent from anyone else for the entirety of their energy usage.
If a developing country with minimal financial resources can invest in the technology and the infrastructure to become completely energy independent, surely we can (if we can finally elect politicians with the balls to tell the oil industry to go to hell). We have the money. We have the brains to get the job done. All we need is the will to do it.
And electing more republicans and democrats is not an option.
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: The Mechanic</div><div class="ubbcode-body">If it is to save the environment and low pollution we should have gone the way of the French and use 100% clean nuclear energy. </div></div>
But nuclear in the long run isn't any better. The broken down materials that occur during reactions in order to make said power, which are nuclear, have to be stored for eternity. Ask anyone in the Chernobyl area how that worked out.
Even better is to go the route of Brazil and use 100% bio-fuel in their cars. They are 100% independent from anyone else for the entirety of their energy usage.
If a developing country with minimal financial resources can invest in the technology and the infrastructure to become completely energy independent, surely we can (if we can finally elect politicians with the balls to tell the oil industry to go to hell). We have the money. We have the brains to get the job done. All we need is the will to do it.
And electing more republicans and democrats is not an option.
Re: Bloom Box - Energy Solution or BS?
eleaf, given our current nuclear power plant set up that is indeed the case, but if we were to install breeder reactors to reuse and recycle the spent fuel rods then we would greatly reduce if not eliminate the nuclear waste that would have to be stored somewhere.
Granted I fully understand how they work, read an article in scientific america, but it seems like its working in places like France.
eleaf, given our current nuclear power plant set up that is indeed the case, but if we were to install breeder reactors to reuse and recycle the spent fuel rods then we would greatly reduce if not eliminate the nuclear waste that would have to be stored somewhere.
Granted I fully understand how they work, read an article in scientific america, but it seems like its working in places like France.
Re: Bloom Box - Energy Solution or BS?
Pebble bed reactor not the Chernobyl Russian RBMK reactors. Nuke has come a long way since 1986. You are comparing a Commador 64 to a modern computer.
Pebble bed reactor not the Chernobyl Russian RBMK reactors. Nuke has come a long way since 1986. You are comparing a Commador 64 to a modern computer.
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