Bolt gun vs Semiauto

[david walter]

I have both, a DPMS with all the bells and whistles, and a 5R with the same.

I may be in a spot where one needs to go.

Which do you prefer for tactical matches and which for hunting, and why?

Both are in 308.

 

[sobrbiker883]

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Which can you do what you want to do the most of, best?

I will always have a match-ready quality 308 boltgun in my safe, but that's me.



Or try this-what's your immediate gut reaction to the loss of both?
You should get a pang of anxiety about losing one more than the other.

 

[pupdawg]

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Which do you shoot better?

That's the one I'd keep.

 

[splean]

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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: pupdawg</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Which do you shoot better?

That's the one I'd keep.</div></div>

Yeah me too.

 

[chris223]

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With the economy like it is ive sold off quite a bit of stuff
and the only thing I can say from what im going through
is everything ive sold can be replaced . recover the cash you need you can always buy another.

 

[david walter]

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I shoot the bolt gun better (.5" groups consistently vs 1" groups). I have about the same money in both.

The bolt gun is more accurate, but if I needed to bug out, the semi and ten 20 round mags would give me more comfort.

 

[broke_again]

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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: pupdawg</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Which do you shoot better?

That's the one I'd keep. </div></div>

Big +1, though I hate selling guns. I have vowed to sell everything else before I sell any more guns.

 

[bri8sol]

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First off, I hope things work out for you and you are not forced to have to sell either. That being said, I think you would be best served by keeping the DPMS and selling the 5R. Good luck!

 

[Oodin]

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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: pupdawg</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Which do you shoot better?

That's the one I'd keep. </div></div>This, but if you're in a real pinch, sell the one you can GET more money for.

 

[coldboremiracle]

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Me too, the more accurate bolt gun seems like it could be more useful, but like you said, the 2o rnds of auto .308 would be nice in a bugout sitch. I think I'd keep the bolt .308, as much as it pains me.
I also have vowed to sell everything else before the guns. when the shit hits the fan, I wont need a camera, or tv, or any other house hold wares. But a good rifle will be hard to come by, and worth twice what you paid for it.

 

[pupdawg]

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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: David Walter</div><div class="ubbcode-body">I shoot the bolt gun better (.5" groups consistently vs 1" groups). I have about the same money in both.

The bolt gun is more accurate, but if I needed to bug out, the semi and ten 20 round mags would give me more comfort. </div></div>

Hey... "bug out day" aint comin till 12/21/12!

I understand your rationale (I do)... but seriously, when do you ever plan on buggin out with a 10 lb rifle and 10 lbs of ammo? If that's the case then I'd keep the bolt gun (since you shoot it better) and buy a pre-owned glock in whatever caliber with 10 mags and you're good. If the day comes that you need more than that, then we weren't meant to survive.

 

[chu2001]

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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: pupdawg</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: David Walter</div><div class="ubbcode-body">I shoot the bolt gun better (.5" groups consistently vs 1" groups). I have about the same money in both.

The bolt gun is more accurate, but if I needed to bug out, the semi and ten 20 round mags would give me more comfort. </div></div>

Hey... "bug out day" aint comin till 12/21/12!

I understand your rationale (I do)... but seriously, when do you ever plan on buggin out with a 10 lb rifle and 10 lbs of ammo? If that's the case then I'd keep the bolt gun (since you shoot it better) and buy a pre-owned glock in whatever caliber with 10 mags and you're good. If the day comes that you need more than that, then we weren't meant to survive.

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Haha, this is the best answer I seen. Maybe add a 12 ga shotgun to the list and that's it. Anything more than that is not worthy to live through.

 

[VKC]

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I would sell whichever gun you can loss less money on when selling. Losing less being the important point, since I think one almost always loses when selling a well-kept gun. Better yet, why not sell the dog and keep the guns?

 

[desertHK]

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That's definitely tough decision to make. I think about a year ago, I would say the bolt gun stays, but today, it's different. Still it's hard to say that I would pick the POF over my AIAW in 308, but, by shooting more with my POF, I feel very comfortable with it. Again, with the 20 rounds in one mag and a few extra mags in your gear, it's always a bit more comfortable to know that you get a bit more firepowder, if needed. Anything beyond my POF range is either no need to engage, or if must, I can always pull out the 338LM in the gunslinger backpack. LOL. J/K.

If you shoot match comp. frequently, then it's hard to say no to the bolt gun.

 

[Driftwood]

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Personally I would keep the bolt gun and sell the LR308 if that is your choice. The prices on AR platforms is likely to come down, as they are already inflated and a "correction" is just a matter of time. So when things get better you may have benefited by selling high and then buying low later. I hope you are able to keep yours. I liked the rifle, but honestly I shot my bolt actions much more. They were just more accurate.

 

[rdl65]

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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Driftwood</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Personally I would keep the bolt gun and sell the LR308 if that is your choice. The prices on AR platforms is likely to come down, as they are already inflated and a "correction" is just a matter of time. So when things get better you may have benefited by selling high and then buying low later. I hope you are able to keep yours. I liked the rifle, but honestly I shot my bolt actions much more. They were just more accurate. </div></div>

The bottom has already fell out of the AR market.

 

[samnev]

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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: David Walter</div><div class="ubbcode-body">I shoot the bolt gun better (.5" groups consistently vs 1" groups). I have about the same money in both.

The bolt gun is more accurate, but if I needed to bug out, the semi and ten 20 round mags would give me more comfort. </div></div>

I'd keep the bolt gun. What is the the real chance that something would happen to cause you to have to bug out?
Perhaps if I lived in an area that could be hit with another Katrina type hurricane or a major tsunami or earthquake I would worry. Civil unrest is very unlikely IMO to cause a bug out situation. So i'd evaluate this very carefully and keep the rifle you like best.

 

[david walter]

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Yea,

But, they are about the same in value, and both have detachable mags. The bolt gun Badger 10 rounds for $70-ish per mag; the auto PMAGs for $20-ish for a 20 rounder.

I agree bug-out is a low-odds proposition. But, if I'm playing those odds, more and accurate firepower wins.

No?

 

[2guard]

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Which would be tougher/more expensive to replace? That's the one I would keep. If you need a SHTF gun, pick up a cheap ak.

 

[david walter]

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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: 2guard</div><div class="ubbcode-body">If you need a SHTF gun, pick up a cheap ak. </div></div>

I have ARs in 223/5.56 for that. This one is specifically for keeping people and things from getting closer than say, 600 yards.

 

[223ai]

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Unless you are deployed or a LE Sniper, if you are shooting at people 600 yards away, then I hope that you enjoy your time in prison.

 

[Badshot308]

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Exactly, you have no way of of justifying using deadly physical force on someone at long range. Unless they open fire on you first, you just committed murder. Looters aren't going be doing that and they won't make their intentions known until they're much closer. You can't shoot someone or a group of people just because you think they may be a threat at some point.

 

[edward r homeyer]

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.308 and below, I prefer a semi auto. Especially if it is better than a 1moa gun. I save bolt action for anything bigger. I'll probably end up packing in a bolt gun and carrying something I can fight with in my hands.

 

[david walter]

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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: JPipes</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Unless you are deployed or a LE Sniper, if you are shooting at people 600 yards away, then I hope that you enjoy your time in prison. </div></div>

I'm pretty tuned up on the Law of Armed Conflict, having just returned from the sand box with a combat command.

My stated purpose was for the SHTF scenario. I promise not to shoot any innocent people for any reason, OK?

I'm not sure I understand your comment. While military snipers and marksman routinely open fire at 600+ on legitimate targets, are you saying there is any situation in the world where LE is justified in engaging a 600 yard target that the regular Joe on the street is not?

Tell me that one.

 

[xNF_9]

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Keep the bolt due to the Accuracy factor. Ive owned an AR and love the bolt a lot more due to the accuracy, repeatability, ease of cleaning, and increased fps.

 

[sootstorm]

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I enjoy shooting my bolt gun, but the AR would be more useful if NEEDED. On the other hand, you just said you have AR15's so dump the DPMS and keep the bolt for work the 15's can't do.

 

[xNF_9]

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I personally like the bolt more that's all. You may have a different opinion. Keep the one you like more and enjoy to shoot. Make sure u do the right decision because once one is sold you can't go back.

 

[RicosRevenge]

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As was said... if you need cash now, the bolt gun would be the one to go since the bottom fell out of the AR market and it is worth relatively little.

There I said it. I hate myself for saying keep the AR over the bolt, but it is as the situation demands.

 

[TonyAngel]

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Since you're throwing bug out gear into the mix of considerations, I'd keep the one that was less likely to break. That's gonna be the bolt gun. To be frank, unless I'm mistaken, the DPMS is really nothing special in terms of materials. Yes, the barrel is steal, but the receivers are just extruded aluminum. If I had to count on something to take a licking and keep on ticking, it would be the bolt gun backed up by a good side arm that is equally as tough.