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Bolt latch

Jon Lester

Gunny Sergeant
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Minuteman
Mar 7, 2004
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Who makes a bolt release with a large pad on the bottom to lock the bolt open? With the mag out bolt open rule that is still in place at a few matches seems someone would have put out a lever with an oversized bottom half. Hoping to run my g 10 at the Brawl but it still takes some time to get on the latch.
 
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Seekins Precision makes a billet bolt catch that is larger on both top and bottom than standard ones.

Here's one on my rifle:

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I too prefer the Seekins. It is large enough (top button and the raised lower portion), as well as textured enough to get the job done. I have one that came on a Seekins lower and another that I replaced on another lower and they are about perfect for me.

I have never liked the "enhanced"/"extended"/etc. catches like the DPMS much because they are always getting in the damn way, catching/snagging on everything, etc.
 
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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: GSRswapandslow</div><div class="ubbcode-body">i have the seekins....i love it. bought it along with their safety button. The safety button does nothing other than look good, though. </div></div>

You mean the mag release button?

I have one of the Seekins mag releases as well and it looks great. I like that it doesn't have a hole in the center of it like the others.
 
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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: c_morse</div><div class="ubbcode-body">That last one would require modification to the lower receiver, no? </div></div>

Yup... a little dremel work. They have an installation video on their website.

The Phase 5 is a one piece replacement though and took me 60 seconds to install. Both are different in function so it really comes down to preference and personal dexterity.
 
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I actually like the Magpul BAD lever a bit better than that Phase 5, as you can remove it in 10 seconds and still have the standard bolt catch. Also seems the Magpul is a bit smaller in dimension.
 
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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: c_morse</div><div class="ubbcode-body">I actually like the Magpul BAD lever a bit better than that Phase 5, as you can remove it in 10 seconds and still have the standard bolt catch. Also seems the Magpul is a bit smaller in dimension. </div></div>

I prefer the one piece replacement which is made of slightly stronger material. And why would you need to remove it quickly? The OP was looking for something with more dimension, not less...
 
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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Broker</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: c_morse</div><div class="ubbcode-body">I actually like the Magpul BAD lever a bit better than that Phase 5, as you can remove it in 10 seconds and still have the standard bolt catch. Also seems the Magpul is a bit smaller in dimension. </div></div>

I prefer the one piece replacement which is made of slightly stronger material. And why would you need to remove it quickly? The OP was looking for something with more dimension, not less... </div></div>

Dimension on the left side becomes more of a hindrance in my opinion, especially with the pointy edges. You have tons of vertical real estate already with a lever of these types, so why make it super wide? Not to mention the fact, chances are you'll be manipulating it from inside the trigger guard with your opposite hand, as that's why they're designed that way.

As for quick removal, I'd say it'd be nice to remove the lever for cleaning, etc... or when running drills or in a situation when you wouldn't want that lever in your trigger guard.

Materials wise, Magpul is VERY well established in the industry, so I think "strength of materials" is kind of a moot point. They chose the material they did for a reason.
 
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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: c_morse</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Broker</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: c_morse</div><div class="ubbcode-body">I actually like the Magpul BAD lever a bit better than that Phase 5, as you can remove it in 10 seconds and still have the standard bolt catch. Also seems the Magpul is a bit smaller in dimension. </div></div>

I prefer the one piece replacement which is made of slightly stronger material. And why would you need to remove it quickly? The OP was looking for something with more dimension, not less... </div></div>

Dimension on the left side becomes more of a hindrance in my opinion, especially with the pointy edges. You have tons of vertical real estate already with a lever of these types, so why make it super wide? Not to mention the fact, chances are you'll be manipulating it from inside the trigger guard with your opposite hand, as that's why they're designed that way.

As for quick removal, I'd say it'd be nice to remove the lever for cleaning, etc... or when running drills or in a situation when you wouldn't want that lever in your trigger guard.

Materials wise, Magpul is VERY well established in the industry, so I think "strength of materials" is kind of a moot point. They chose the material they did for a reason. </div></div>

"Pointy edges"? Lol. The width is not that much more than the BAD lever. It's skeletonized so you don't have to remove it like a BAD lever to clean it and moisture/dirt doesn't get inside where your BAD lever connects to it. I've run mine even with gloves and never had an issue with it interfering. I don't see anyone in a situation where they have 10 seconds to remove it before they go into a drill and even then you still would have to grab a tool to do it. And steel is always stronger than aluminum.
 
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I'll concede the pointy edges argument, but in turn I'm going to laugh at your "skeletonized so you don't have to remove to clean" comment. Take a look at how thin the Magpul is on the horizontal axis. It'd be a lot easier to clean behind it than that Phase 5 when the Magpul is installed.

As for the drills and cleaning and such, I'm sticking to that one. I'd rather be able to easily remove the Magpul with an allen head in 10 seconds than to have to drive a roll pin out and back in.

As for the "dirt getting inside where the Magpul connects" claim. Look at the lever. You're not going to get much dirt in there, period.

Steel might be stronger, but when is it overkill? Just because it can be stronger doesn't mean it's warranted. If Magpul put it out, I trust them that they know what they're doing.
 
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Lol... Like always here comes somebody to defend Magpul when they were never being attacked in the first place.

First, the OP is using a GAP-10 which means there is no "roll pin" because POF, Hogan, Seekins, JP, and numerous others use allen screws there now. Takes me less than 60 seconds to unscrew, swap out, and screw in the original bolt release.

Second, you're worried about "cleaning" and then you're going to to tell me that dirt doesn't get into the BAD lever attach area or behind it? Right...

Last... You're really gonna tell me that material strength in AR components is moot? Especially Magpul? Why don't you ask them why they don't do LR308 polymer Magazines in FDE, OD, or any other color other than black then come back to me and tell me material strength is moot. I also never attacked Magpul's trustworthiness. You never even mentioned the BAD lever originally but for some reason want to show up when an alternative is mentioned and try to debate which one is better. That's exactly why I pm'd Jon earlier rather then posting because I knew someone would be along shortly to run to Magpul's rescue because a competitor was mentioned even though Magpul was never brought up. Now I'm just waiting for the other Magpul fans to show up and start-up with the normal fare on an indefensible position since it was never under attack to begin with.

Sorry for shitting on your thread Jon. I should have left it in pm with you. I'll drop off this topic cause it's only gonna go one way from here...