Suppressors Bond Arms Texas Defender

TORKAR

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Been waiting awhile for one of these to show up at the gunshop. Love it, it snorts though.

Anyone else carry one of these and have some input as far as ammo that it shoots well? I've tried a few loads and while it scores well on the coolness factor, I'll carry other guns for protection.

This will be with me on hunting trips.
 
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I have the 3" chamber version and use the five pellet buckshot.

With only 1/2" of rifling at the end of the barrel; it is not a long range hand gun with .45 long colt.

Up close and personal, these are devastating.
 
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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Pappy42</div><div class="ubbcode-body">

Up close and personal, these are devastating. </div></div>

While these are cool little guns on the range or playing around showing them off to your buddies, they are far from devastating up close as in practice it is damn near impossible to operate them with someone on you.
 
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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: smokshwn</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Pappy42</div><div class="ubbcode-body">

Up close and personal, these are devastating. </div></div>

While these are cool little guns on the range or playing around showing them off to your buddies, they are far from devastating up close as in practice it is damn near impossible to operate them with someone on you.

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I sure would not want to be the fella to test your theory.

Now if the person carrying one of these, is aware of what's going on around them, practiced, and has the right mindset; the attacker would likely find themselves leaking air and blood at a frightening rate.

SS, I'm sure that you are more of an expert on such matters than I; however, I seriously doubt the wisdom of an attacker having an upper hand over a person carrying, what is essentily a small, double barrel, .410 SG.
 
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The ones I've shot have performed great with my Cowboy Action loads...6 grains of Titegroup under a 255 grain cast bullet. Lots of muzzle blast, but the bullets land pretty much on top of each other at 10 yards. My slugs have a large meplat, and would make an excellent coup de grace for any game animal and would be good defense against both two and four legged predators.
 
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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Pappy42</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: smokshwn</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Pappy42</div><div class="ubbcode-body">

Up close and personal, these are devastating. </div></div>

While these are cool little guns on the range or playing around showing them off to your buddies, they are far from devastating up close as in practice it is damn near impossible to operate them with someone on you.

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I sure would not want to be the fella to test your theory.

Now if the person carrying one of these, is aware of what's going on around them, practiced, and has the right mindset; the attacker would likely find themselves leaking air and blood at a frightening rate.

SS, I'm sure that you are more of an expert on such matters than I; however, I seriously doubt the wisdom of an attacker having an upper hand over a person carrying, what is essentily a small, double barrel, .410 SG. </div></div>

Not an expert by a long shot, but I did have a buddy who wanted to carry one as a backup. We played around a bit in the mat room and found that despite the ease that you can carry it, it's small size made manipulating the hammer and trigger pretty difficult in close quarters. Even more so if you were fighting with an assailant.
 
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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: smokshwn</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Pappy42</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: smokshwn</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Pappy42</div><div class="ubbcode-body">

Up close and personal, these are devastating. </div></div>

While these are cool little guns on the range or playing around showing them off to your buddies, they are far from devastating up close as in practice it is damn near impossible to operate them with someone on you.

</div></div>

I sure would not want to be the fella to test your theory.

Now if the person carrying one of these, is aware of what's going on around them, practiced, and has the right mindset; the attacker would likely find themselves leaking air and blood at a frightening rate.

SS, I'm sure that you are more of an expert on such matters than I; however, I seriously doubt the wisdom of an attacker having an upper hand over a person carrying, what is essentily a small, double barrel, .410 SG. </div></div>

Not an expert by a long shot, but I did have a buddy who wanted to carry one as a backup. We played around a bit in the mat room and found that despite the ease that you can carry it, it's small size made manipulating the hammer and trigger pretty difficult in close quarters. Even more so if you were fighting with an assailant. </div></div>

Following this premise means ankle holsters, deep cover IWB, tuckable etc. I don't buy into the premise that having an assailant already attached to one's person has anything to do with the size of weapon carried; but does depend on the defender's mental preparedness.

As far as the size of the weapon used by the defender, consider a box cutter, linoleum knife, or small fixed blade knife. All are small, but easily operated. This leads us to area of agreement; the single action derringer design does not lend itself to easy, fast, deployment under stress, when carried concealed on the person.

Do I carry mine on my person as a first line CCW? Nope, but I do carry it in the center console of my vehicle, reachable by myself or my wife, in case some idiot decides to car jack a couple of seniors. It would be my sincerest advice to the thug that trys to jack us, to keep his back limbered up so that he can bend over and kiss his ass goodby.

If I'm guessing correctly; your signature line tells me that you are "on the job". If you are, God Bless you. I plied that trade for 31 years.
 
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Pappy,

Yes many deep cover options are harder to get to in a fight....but to get to them and then try to manipulate a hammer and get you finger into a small trigger guard is IMO excessively difficult with the derringers when compared to other options for a solid backup or pocket gun.

I also like having the option of ammo/magazine compatibility with my primary gun or the ability to reload without turning the gun upside down.


Not OTJ, just a fireman who probably should have been a cop
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Thanks to you as well.

 
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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: smokshwn</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Pappy,

Yes many deep cover options are harder to get to in a fight....but to get to them and then try to manipulate a hammer and get you finger into a small trigger guard is IMO excessively difficult with the derringers when compared to other options for a solid backup or pocket gun.

I also like having the option of ammo/magazine compatibility with my primary gun or the ability to reload without turning the gun upside down.


Not OTJ, just a fireman who probably should have been a cop
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Thanks to you as well.

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All of the folks that provide emergency services in the large human cesspools that we call cities are OJT and my thanks go out to all.