Bore Rider Jags Alternative

Hi All,

Do any of you know of an alternative to bore ride jags [http://www.boreriderbarrelcareproducts.com/p/jags.html]. The gent that makes them is retired. It seems like a great idea to protect the crown from wear. Thanks.
Wow that is something that I would’ve bought.

Especially when using a muzzle device, I’ve largely gotten around from sliding the jag/rod joint across the crown by using a proshot “Rod Stop.”


Of course they fit Pro Shot rods…not sure how they would work with other brands.

Note: the rod stops can slip a little. I use some tape behind it to both let me know that it has slipped and to limit the slipping. I might try ganging up two rod stops to see if that helps.

Of course, you could also cut to length some tube and slide that over the cleaning rod first. When pushing the rod through the bore, the tube would contact the bore guide and the cleaning rod handle and stop forward progress.

When cleaning a barrel with an attached muzzle device, using my technique of limiting the the jag/rod joint “crown drag,” I can’t get much of the jag out as the jag isn’t long enough. So I just push back and forth to get it to fall off into my muzzle brake.

Proshot seems to make the longest brass and aluminum jags, btw.

Tip: if you go with proshot stuff and buy their cleaning rods, I’ve had way better luck ordering from them directly. The rods come much better protected and aren’t bent from shipping like when I’ve ordered from Amazon.

Also, they’re real friendly if you call.
 
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Update: I've bought the jags and had a chance to use them. They are well made and I haven't had problems with with plastic threaded insert. The only negative is that the diameter of the jags is large (.3" for the .308) and they're designed to ride along the bore. Standard for caliber patches are too large and I had to size down and pierce the patches off center in order to use them. Given the posibility of debris embeding in the jag and riding accross the rifling I won't be using them going forward.
 
Update: I've bought the jags and had a chance to use them. They are well made and I haven't had problems with with plastic threaded insert. The only negative is that the diameter of the jags is large (.3" for the .308) and they're designed to ride along the bore. Standard for caliber patches are too large and I had to size down and pierce the patches off center in order to use them. Given the posibility of debris embeding in the jag and riding accross the rifling I won't be using them going forward.
That’s weird. I wonder why 21st Century sized that way? Seems dumb.
 
That’s weird. I wonder why 21st Century sized that way? Seems dumb.
Agreed, I asked them and this was their response:

Thanks for using our products. Our Nylon Jags were designed to "ride the bore" and are larger than your conventional jags. As long as it is not too tight where you are struggling to push your rod through you should be good to go. Some shooters with tighter bores have had issues with this, and I have asked our machinists to shave a bit off of the outside diameter in new batches that will be run in the future. Please let me know if it is too tight.
 
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Update: I've bought the jags and had a chance to use them. They are well made and I haven't had problems with with plastic threaded insert. The only negative is that the diameter of the jags is large (.3" for the .308) and they're designed to ride along the bore. Standard for caliber patches are too large and I had to size down and pierce the patches off center in order to use them. Given the posibility of debris embeding in the jag and riding accross the rifling I won't be using them going forward.
What does “ride the bore” actually mean?
 
What does “ride the bore” actually mean?
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I've been using these (the 21st Century version) for years - probably 10+ - in my match FTR guns - ie .223 Rem and .308 Win - as well as my 'play' guns (6.5CM, 6CM, etc.). I use them the same way I use pretty much any other jag with patches - I pierce the patch (Pro-Shot 1-3/4" for .30 cal) off center, about 1/4" from a corner, and use it as a quasi bore mop for a couple wet patches. Then when it's time to get the wet stuff out, I pierce the patches dead center and push them through. Yes, it's a tight fit - and that's what I expect.

I long ago got over the notion that any particular brand of jag/patch was going to fit a certain way, and I work out for myself what size patch and whether/how much I need to pierce them off center to get the fit I want. These jags are no different, and they work well for what I want/need ie something that won't react with bore solvents. My only gripe with them is they don't make a .33 cal version!
 
I use the same patches. I can't get them into the bore and I pierced them just off the edge of the patch. Maybe the dimensions have changed in 10+ years. My .308 Montana Extreme jag is .25" wide and it works fine wth the pro-shot patches.
 
I use the same patches. I can't get them into the bore and I pierced them just off the edge of the patch. Maybe the dimensions have changed in 10+ years. My .308 Montana Extreme jag is .25" wide and it works fine wth the pro-shot patches.
If they won’t take it back or send you a narrower one, you might chuck it up in a drill (or even better, a drill press or a lathe) and very lightly apply some fine sandpaper to reduce the diameter.

With my SS Proshot and Dewey rods and brass/alum jags, I sand the jag/rod joint interface so if I push too far, retracting the rod won’t damage the crown.

I remember there used to be this Ivy guy who would make a SS rod with an integral jag, eliminating that joint entirely. He lost it mentally, one day. Dementia, I suppose, and his kids closed up the shop.

This happened right when I was trying to place an order, dangit.

The gun world is so full of old dudes lol. Woodworking, too. I’ve had at least two excellent guys die and take their wonderful products with them. C’est la vie.
 
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