I am gathering parts necessary for a build. Is it possible to get a custom action and barrel trued by a smith and put the rest of the rifle together later? What are all the tasks of a smith when building a rifle?
Gunsmithing Building a rifle...would this work?
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Re: Building a rifle...would this work?
Yes, you can get an action and bolt trued.
If it is a remington, you will need to buy a "savage" barrel nut system to put the barrel on yourself. There are several companies putting out the Rem/Savage hybrids
Yes, you can get an action and bolt trued.
If it is a remington, you will need to buy a "savage" barrel nut system to put the barrel on yourself. There are several companies putting out the Rem/Savage hybrids
Re: Building a rifle...would this work?
I was thinking of a Stiller TAC30 action and a rock barrel. The action should already been trued. I just need to get the barrel and action to mate squarely.
I was thinking of a Stiller TAC30 action and a rock barrel. The action should already been trued. I just need to get the barrel and action to mate squarely.
Re: Building a rifle...would this work?
If your buying a "boutique" action then it should be as simple as fitting a barrel.
No further action work should be needed. I've spoken with Jerry Stiller on a number of occasions now. I'd have a difficult time accepting any of his products requiring additional work to "true up."
As for your build and your question:
There's certainly nothing wrong with having your barreled action fitted before your able/ready to move onto the stock work. I do think though that if funds are the delaying factor it'd be better to wait and gather your parts inventory first and then "shot gun" them to your chosen smith for fitting and assembly.
The reason is (from a smith perspective) I'd much rather have all the stuff in front of me rather than ship things back and forth. With all of it in front of me I can "take it in" so to speak and ensure the parts are compatable before moving forward.
- Experience has taught me that a customer's best intentions can sometimes lead to problems. Things like big barrels in skinny stocks, magazines not long enough for cartridges, wrong twist rates for the intended bullet weight class, an action with the wrong magazine mortise, etc.
All of these things have happened at different times over the years. Just be sure your components are compatible is what I'm trying to say.
As far as the operations with a build:
It's a very difficult question to answer as they can vary quite a bit depending on application, budget, and expectation.
What I can say is your first step in this is finding someone you can do business with.
Key factors:
Trust
Communication
Experience level
Business ethics
Professional reputation
If any of these lack, move on as there are too many good gun plumbers out there.
If your buying a "boutique" action then it should be as simple as fitting a barrel.
No further action work should be needed. I've spoken with Jerry Stiller on a number of occasions now. I'd have a difficult time accepting any of his products requiring additional work to "true up."
As for your build and your question:
There's certainly nothing wrong with having your barreled action fitted before your able/ready to move onto the stock work. I do think though that if funds are the delaying factor it'd be better to wait and gather your parts inventory first and then "shot gun" them to your chosen smith for fitting and assembly.
The reason is (from a smith perspective) I'd much rather have all the stuff in front of me rather than ship things back and forth. With all of it in front of me I can "take it in" so to speak and ensure the parts are compatable before moving forward.
- Experience has taught me that a customer's best intentions can sometimes lead to problems. Things like big barrels in skinny stocks, magazines not long enough for cartridges, wrong twist rates for the intended bullet weight class, an action with the wrong magazine mortise, etc.
All of these things have happened at different times over the years. Just be sure your components are compatible is what I'm trying to say.
As far as the operations with a build:
It's a very difficult question to answer as they can vary quite a bit depending on application, budget, and expectation.
What I can say is your first step in this is finding someone you can do business with.
Key factors:
Trust
Communication
Experience level
Business ethics
Professional reputation
If any of these lack, move on as there are too many good gun plumbers out there.
Re: Building a rifle...would this work?
Listen. . . . . . you here that?. . . . . . . This man knows WTF he's talking about.
Listen. . . . . . you here that?. . . . . . . This man knows WTF he's talking about.
Re: Building a rifle...would this work?
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: coldboremiracle</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Listen. . . . . . you here that?. . . . . . . This man knows WTF he's talking about.
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HAHA yeah he hit the nail on the head that's for sure!
Make sure and get with a smith that you want to do the work for you and make a parts list so that you know exactly what your going to need and exactly what you need to spend to get it.
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: coldboremiracle</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Listen. . . . . . you here that?. . . . . . . This man knows WTF he's talking about.
HAHA yeah he hit the nail on the head that's for sure!
Make sure and get with a smith that you want to do the work for you and make a parts list so that you know exactly what your going to need and exactly what you need to spend to get it.
Re: Building a rifle...would this work?
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: turbohardtop</div><div class="ubbcode-body">I was thinking of a Stiller TAC30 action and a rock barrel. The action should already been trued. I just need to get the barrel and action to mate squarely. </div></div>
People have this done every day. Pick a smith you can trust and send him your parts, easy as that.
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: turbohardtop</div><div class="ubbcode-body">I was thinking of a Stiller TAC30 action and a rock barrel. The action should already been trued. I just need to get the barrel and action to mate squarely. </div></div>
People have this done every day. Pick a smith you can trust and send him your parts, easy as that.
Re: Building a rifle...would this work?
I just did the same thing you are talking about; purchased an action from Jerry Stiller, barrel from Krieger, Trigger from Jewell and a stock from Grey Bull Precision. The smith chambered the barrel and installed it, then I inleted the stock (very little inletting work mainly the barrel channel)and bedded it. Striped very thing back down and dura coated it. Turned out real nice. You could easily do it; but then again it depends on your skill level and what you decided to build.
I just did the same thing you are talking about; purchased an action from Jerry Stiller, barrel from Krieger, Trigger from Jewell and a stock from Grey Bull Precision. The smith chambered the barrel and installed it, then I inleted the stock (very little inletting work mainly the barrel channel)and bedded it. Striped very thing back down and dura coated it. Turned out real nice. You could easily do it; but then again it depends on your skill level and what you decided to build.
Re: Building a rifle...would this work?
From experience,
If possible have the gun built by one person start to finish! I had a barrel manufacture true an action and intstall the barrel, a noter gunsmith do the bedding and stock work. At the end of the day it shot like crap.
It became a huge finger pointing game, I sent the gun off again and had some one do it start to finish. It shoot great!
At the end of the day, it ended up being a bad barrel that slipped through. The replaced it, but I had dropped another grand to have it built again.
I will NEVER piece meal again..one guy build form start to finish so if it goes south your not stuck! Tried to save $200.00 and cost me a 1000.00!
Just my experience.
From experience,
If possible have the gun built by one person start to finish! I had a barrel manufacture true an action and intstall the barrel, a noter gunsmith do the bedding and stock work. At the end of the day it shot like crap.
It became a huge finger pointing game, I sent the gun off again and had some one do it start to finish. It shoot great!
At the end of the day, it ended up being a bad barrel that slipped through. The replaced it, but I had dropped another grand to have it built again.
I will NEVER piece meal again..one guy build form start to finish so if it goes south your not stuck! Tried to save $200.00 and cost me a 1000.00!
Just my experience.
