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Bushnell Forge 15x56 or Leupold BX-5 Santiam 15x56

I saw the deal on EuroOptic. Definitely a good price. On the flip side if you are LEO you can get a smoking deal on the Forge binos making the difference in price about $300. So the question is if the BX-5’s are worth $300 more than the Forges?
 
I've used my 15x Forges to spot at multiple PRS matches and the AG Cup, and I've never felt them to be lacking. Before I had the Forges, I was one of the guys fighting for the Swaro binos to use when ROing, and I don't bother now. Just saying...
 
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Also not sure if you are aware or not but the Forge binos are Chinese made. Not sure how anyone in their right mind could buy something made by those assholes after this if you have an alternative.

I strongly agree but then, if I trow everything out I own made in china there will not be much left in my house....

And are you saying that every part on the Leupold binos is manufactured and assembled here in the USA ?
 
Also not sure if you are aware or not but the Forge binos are Chinese made. Not sure how anyone in their right mind could buy something made by those assholes after this if you have an alternative.

I agree but the leupolds are not made here either. I’m not sure if there are even any optics made here. Most of the high end stuff will be Japanese or European.
We could derail this thread really quick if we inject politics, beliefs, etc.
For now I wanna know if one is worth more than the other or opinions from those that have played with both so I can make an informed choice. At this point, regardless of where they are made, is the Leupold worth $300 more than the Forges?
 
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You do realize Leupold has a Factory in Oregon right? It ain’t just a huge empty building where a bunch of people go hang out everyday.
That said, the BX5 will be way better than anything Bushnell sells.
Just because they have a factory in the USA don’t mean it’s made here. My research shows the BX5 is made in Japan. Have you compared these two? That’s the whole point of my post. Is the leupold worth $300 more?
 
No I haven’t done a direct comparison of the BX-5 15x56 and the Bushnell Forge 15x56. I’ve used The BX-2 and BX-4. Which are “lesser” than the BX-5. They are both better than any piece of Bushnell glass I’ve ever looked through. The BX-5 15x binos are awesome. I have used those. Did your research include asking Leupold where they make the BX-5? I don’t know of anything Bushnell sells that isn’t from China.
If your budget only allows the Bushnell, then have at it. But I’ve never been sad I spent more on good glass.
 
No I haven’t done a direct comparison of the BX-5 15x56 and the Bushnell Forge 15x56. I’ve used The BX-2 and BX-4. Which are “lesser” than the BX-5. They are both better than any piece of Bushnell glass I’ve ever looked through. The BX-5 15x binos are awesome. I have used those. Did your research include asking Leupold where they make the BX-5? I don’t know of anything Bushnell sells that isn’t from China.
If your budget only allows the Bushnell, then have at it. But I’ve never been sad I spent more on good glass.

Most of Bushnells optics are coming from Japan (The entire Elite Tactical product line) and South Korea (Several of the less expensive products) at this point, with only a couple of lines being made in China. The Forge binos are made in China, yes, but the glass in them is excellent to my eyes - and I have a LOT of time behind them.

I'll also add that every single person thats looked through my 15x Forge binos at a PRS match has been impressed. I *briefly* got to see/play with the BX5s at the AG Cup, but didn't get enough time behind them to give you an opinion.
 
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Most of Bushnells optics are coming from Japan (The entire Elite Tactical product line) and South Korea (Several of the less expensive products) at this point, with only a couple of lines being made in China. The Forge binos are made in China, yes, but the glass in them is excellent to my eyes - and I have a LOT of time behind them.

I'll also add that every single person thats looked through my 15x Forge binos at a PRS match has been impressed. I *briefly* got to see/play with the BX5s at the AG Cup, but didn't get enough time behind them to give you an opinion.

I guess Bushnell is like most companies now a days and getting stuff from Japan, which is not necessarily a bad thing. I just haven’t used or handled anything Bushnell that didn’t seem “cheap.” I’m not a die hard Leupold guy, I own many different brands of optics, but I trust most any of Leupold “high end” Mk5, Bx-4/5, VX-5/6. But I have no interest in the Mk6-8, or the low end lines either.
 
I actually got the Bushnell Forge 15x56 about 2 month ago on sale from DVOR. I have to admit the main reason for getting them is Hollywood 6mm says a lot of good things about them. I've compared them to the meoptas (only prize wise) and couldn't justify double the cost. I only played with them in the back yard mounted on a tripod and like them a lot. A mount comes with them, they also have a longer eye relief (expandable / retractable front rings) great for using them with glasses on.
It will be difficult for you to make a judgement in witch one is better, the best suggestion would be to go to an PRS event and compare them there for yourself.
 
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“I’ve never looked through the BX5 or the Forge but I can tell you the BX5 are definitely way better than the Bushnell.” Am I doing it right?

I currently own the Forges, but I had the BX5s prior. I ended up selling the Leupolds in favor of the Bushy’s, but it was mostly because of the price difference... I apparently paid a lot more for the BX5 than most, and when I had an opportunity to look through the Forges, the cost difference was definitely not reflective of what should have been the performance difference.

Country of origin aside, both are good quality mid-tier optics. Being sub $500, I can tell you that you will not be disappointed with the Bushnell - they punch well above their weight. In my opinion there is no better option in terms of cost-performance.

That said, the BX5 are good quality optics and very comparable to the Bushnell optics-wise. I personally would not say they are superior by comparison in any way, but certainly not lacking either. I believe this is one of those where you truly can’t go wrong and it really just comes down to preference and cost.
 
I bought a set of BX-5s almost 2yrs ago, right after Leupold dropped the MAP $200 or $250. I had wanted to compare them to a set of Swaro CLS 15x56s, but never got the chance before the price drop. I had ~$250 in Club points on my Cabela's card acct, so IIRC, the BX-5s cost me about $800. And yes, they are made in Japan - it says so right on the front hinge cap between the barrels, and on the box. The bodies are made of 'glass reinforced polymer'.

About 4mo after getting the BX-5s, Athlon announced their Cronus 15x56 binos. I bought a pair to haul to a couple of gun shows to re-sell, and of course had to open the package to compare them to my BX-5s. The optical quality is similar, but I give the edge to the Leupolds, because they seem a little brighter to me. Not much of a comparison, as I've spent hours behind my Leupolds using them to spot/score at a couple of Hi Power prone matches, while I've only done a very basic bit of 'back-and-forth' checks between them & the Cronus binos. I know I can spend long periods of time on the BX-5s with little or no eye fatigue, just haven't put in the time behind the Cronus binos to see how they compare in that regard. Only reason I posted this is because the Athlons are also made in China, and are probably comparable to the Forge binos. They do come in a nice, heavy-duty water-proof padded plastic case, and the body is magnesium, not plastic.

The final comment I have is that I'll not be selling my BX-5s - I have not one single negative thing to say about them. My opinion of China is lower right now than it's been in a long time, but these Cronus 15x56 binos are a pretty decent pair of glasses.
 
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I did try to consider the Cronus 15x56 but for a 15x56 I like the double bridge design of the forge ba single bridge on Cronus.
Athlon makes some nice scopes with good glass (Ares ETR and above) And I have no doubt their Cronus binos have good glass.
 
I'd like to see someone who's as nutz about optics as many of us here are hit a nice sized lottery jackpot, then use some of his/her winnings to open a really nice shop specializing in riflescopes, binoculars, spotting scopes, etc. - and to do so out here in western Kansas! I've been in the big Cabela's store out on the west side of K.C. several times years ago, before Bass Pro bought them out, but even in what passes for a major metro area store, they didn't have a huge selection of optics at that time. It'd be great to walk into a place like I'm fantasizing about and be able to make comparisons between a large selection of optics. I'll probably never travel to Sport Optics or Euro Optics just to look at high-end optics, but it would be a treat to do so...
 
I wouldnt say everyone. I'm not going to dog on them, I think they were nice optics, and I like Bushnell products, but I dont think they were as nice as higher priced optics. To me they seem to be where they should be as far as price point.

The Vortex Kaibabs we compared them to were a much cleaner sight picture. As were the 12x Razors. The Forge is right there with the Vortex Viper HD/Burris Signature HD bino line ups. But those optics dont offer a 15x for PRS spotters. Which puts the Forge in a unique position for someone who wants a decent inexpensive spotter.

I've looked through the Leupy binos, but never had them alongside the Forge. I did compare the BX5 to my Steiner HX15-56, and they are nice binos. I'm afraid I would be hard put to say whether they are $300 nicer than the Forge 15x.
Man, I'm looking to purchase either the bx5 or the Steiner hx within the next couple of weeks and am having a hell of a time deciding which one. The price is negligible. With that being said. What do you notice that would make you choose one over the other?
 
The Leupys showed up today. These things are HEAVY, and feel really well constructed. I hope to be able to give a range report soon.
 

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