Re: Carbs after noon??
The point is this: just as JRose says we don't really need carbs, we also don't really need meat for a source of protein as is testified to, inarguably and obviously, by the Elephant; no meat, no carbs, only plants. They, along with horses as roggom brought up, seem to grow reasonably large, powerful, muscular, and lean....right?
I've seen Elephant molars. They look just like humans except they are the size of a human fist. Look like one too. One may well argue then our digestive systems are similar, and therefore ours is not designed to digest meat. However, carnivores are. Do our molars look like a canine's? Nope. Then why are we eating meat? Only because it taste good.
A recognized authority on fructose consumption, who's also a Ph.D University Professor, believes we in America are fat because of our excessive sugar consumption rather than our fat consumption, for what that might be worth to anyone.
We're animals inasmuch as we adapt to our environment such as primates would should they be forced into an area of different food sources or changes due to climate in the interest of survival of the species. Babboons will damned sure ring a dogs neck and eat that bitch in a New York second, at least in Kenya where I was.
So, Roscoe, I think if you stay the course you'll lose it, though gradually, tapering off sugar as it suits you. We need no sugar added to our food. Whole foods such as corn and potatoes become sugar. If we eat raw food we'd be healthier, faster, stronger, bigger, smarter.
And whatever you do. Don't read a Muscle magazine. The contents are the buggest bunch of bullshit like gun magazines. The material is slanted to those who are or will buy advertising.
P.S. A word or two about protein sources:
Where do vegans get their protein? It's simple. The plant-based diet includes a wide variety of whole foods consisting of beans, whole-grains, fruits, vegetables, nuts, and seeds, along with products made from these natural foods, such as tofu, tempeh, and meat analogs. Those who believe plant protein is inferior to animal protein may be surprised to learn that plant proteins contain the same 22 amino acids as animal proteins.
Protein, one of the three macronutrients, is composed of amino acids, often referred to as building blocks. A complete protein contains 22 amino acids. From the foods we consume, the body has the ability to manufacture most of the amino acids it requires. Nine of these amino acids are the exception: isoleucine, leucine, lysine, threonine, tryptophan, methionine, histidine, valine, and phenyalanine. This group of amino acids is considered essential to the body and must be obtained from the foods we eat.
Animal foods like meat, chicken, fish, eggs, and dairy products all contain complete protein--that is, all 22 amino acids. Complete protein in the vegan diet is found in the grain quinoa. Soybeans and products made from soybeans like tofu, tempeh, and miso, also contain complete protein. Soy sauce is not a complete protein.
Plant-based foods like legumes, most whole grains, fruits, vegetables, nuts, and seeds all contain protein but do not contain complete protein by themselves. However, the body forms an amino acid pool from the foods eaten throughout the day. When a vegan consumes a variety of foods eaten at breakfast, lunch, and dinner, the body can use these amino acids to make up complete protein.
http://www.vegparadise.com/protein.html 
