cci stingers in my 10/22

[sixpack340]

ok, so ive decided to start tinkering with my 10/22. this rifle and myself have had a bumpy relationship. i love shooting it...when it wants to shoot. i have problems with it jamming and its VERY picky on the ammo i feed it. so i got some gander mountain gift cards for x-mas and decided to make the 2 minute drive over there and get some different ammos to try out. i usually used cci mini mags because they worked fair enough. i bought a box of wolf match, federal spitfires and cci stingers. i got home, gave the rifle a good cleaning since it really needed it and plan on taking it out to try these ammos out. question is, should i be using these high velocity rounds in this thing? ive heard mixed ideas about the stingers and how i shouldnt use them in a gm barrel(which is whats on mine). anyone else use these things? any help would work. i searched on here and rfc but didnt quite get a good answer in my explorations. thanks

 

[skibum845]

Re: cci stingers in my 10/22

I have a Butler Creek barrel that wont feed the stingers i know some of the other match barrels have the same problem - i assume because of a min-spec chamber. Try some other options - im sure you will find ammo that work well...

 

[Rafael]

Re: cci stingers in my 10/22

It may also be some heavy fouling at the neck-end of the chamber.
I would remove the barrel and give it a good cleaning with a bronze brush and a good solvent like Butch's or Shooters Choice, or the like, and see how it does then. If you are using Hoppes #9, toss it or set it aside as cologne.

The only problem with Stingers in my 10/22 was the bolt velocity was too high for the bolt to lock back on the last shot in a magazine.
Edited to add: My mistake, this problem was with a different weapon.

 

[CSS]

Re: cci stingers in my 10/22

I've never had a 10/22 that the bolt would stay open after the last round.....unless I pulled it back and manually pushed up the bolt stop.

Now to the original question. Stingers will more than likely cause a carbon and lead build up in the chamber. I would avoid them. Also Hiper-vel 22 ammo is usually not very accurate in the guns I have tried it in.
If mini mags function most of the time it sound like you need to do some polishing to the bolt and inside the receiver and the face of the hammer.

I've never had a 10/22 that would function with standard veloicity/match ammo without a lot of work to the bolt and changing the springs.

 

[stefan73]

Re: cci stingers in my 10/22

Funny, I've never had problems with Stingers or most other 22 ammo in a 10/22.

22's imo need a lot of cleaning!!

 

[CSS]

Re: cci stingers in my 10/22

I've only had problems with them in tight chambered guns after a few hundred round, the bolt will not completly close and they will still fire, usually rupturing the case.

 

[frog5215]

Re: cci stingers in my 10/22

10/22 bolts don't lock open without manually activating the bolt catch, although there is an aftermarket accessory (and magazine mod) that allows this.

The bolt catch is easily modified to automatically RELEASE on retracting the charging handle of a locked back bolt.

A barrel should be removed from a 10/22 ONLY to replace it with a better barrel. If rod cleaning is desired, a 1/4" hole in the rear of the receiver allows this without wearing the receiver.

Any chamber other than a "sporter" chamber is unsuitable for the longer cases of Stingers, most mfgs caution about this with any of the tighter chambers (Bentz and true match chambers).

What kind of "jams"?

FTE is often related to low bolt speed. Bent/rough guide rod, grunge. Occasionally an aftermarket extractor helps.

Feeding?
Go back to a factory magazine.

 

[sixpack340]

Re: cci stingers in my 10/22

ok, so i think i may just hand the box of stingers over to my brother to shoot out of his 22. that thing eats A-N-Y-T-H-I-N-G. anyway, i use the factory mag, so i dont think its a mag issue with the jamming. i think its probably the bolt. i think a little massaging of the bolt would help. i may try and order some new parts for it like extractor and such. maybe give the bolt a good polishing. but the way the general concensus sounds, stay away from hi-vel ammo and look toward the bolt to fix my problems.

 

[Rafael]

Re: cci stingers in my 10/22

I screwed up.....it was another semi-auto that happened to.
Thanks for the correction!

Yes, I do remove the barrel from time to time.
Never caused me any problems.

 

[Greg Langelius *]

Re: cci stingers in my 10/22

The .22 Stinger case is longer than a regular .22LR case (same overall length, longer case length). This is often the root cause of malfunctions when using Stingers in semiautos. Some can handle it, others can't. Looks like <span style="text-decoration: line-through">the</span> *some/one* 10/22(s) can't.

Greg

 

[Searcher]

Re: cci stingers in my 10/22

Removing the barrel to clean the rifle seems a bit extreme. I shoot mine supressed and I wait until the thing absolutely wont function before I give it a full cleaning because the groups open up pretty wide after cleaning the barrel. I have to put at least 20 rounds down the tube before it groups tight again.

 

[CSS]

Re: cci stingers in my 10/22

Factory mags do wearout / go bad . always have a spare or two

 

[Rafael]

Re: cci stingers in my 10/22

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Searcher</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Removing the barrel to clean the rifle seems a bit extreme. I shoot mine supressed and I wait until the thing absolutely wont function before I give it a full cleaning because the groups open up pretty wide after cleaning the barrel. I have to put at least 20 rounds down the tube before it groups tight again. </div></div>

Extreme? It takes about a minute and involves removing 2 screws.
Once the action is out of the stock, which I do to keep solvent from getting to the stock, it is a breeze. I don't do it regularly....but have done it for a good cleaning after alot of use.

The OP did not say how much the gun has been used or how it was cared-for; and may have some heavy fouling from standard long-rifle, or worse yet from long or short loads fired over and over in the past.
A good cleaning may solve the problem, if the problem is from fouling at the neck.

 

[frog5215]

Re: cci stingers in my 10/22

Hey, it's your gun, do whatever you want.
My BELIEF is that it's a bad practice to be removing the barrel, wears the receiver for a looser fit, promotes barrel droop, and generally loose morals. Good aftermarket barrels often need a mallet to get on or off, and you don't want to do that unnecessarily.

You're taking it out of the stock for detail cleaning, anyway, why would that get solvent on the stock?

Bore the rear of the receiver. You won't lose zero. If the bore's bad enough to need a rod, you need to clean the bolt and receiver anyway.

A bent .243 brush takes care of occasional chamber cleaning; I am of the "clean the bore only when accuracy drops off" school.

 

[tomme boy]

Re: cci stingers in my 10/22

To the OP. Try to see if the barrel is lined up right when you installed it. If the extractor is hanging up on the top or bottom of the grove, you will get a miss-feed on a 10-22's.

 

[sixpack340]

Re: cci stingers in my 10/22

thanks for the heads up tomme boy. i didnt put the heavy barrel on originally. it was on there when i got the rifle from my friend. i did however take it off when i cleaned the receiver out and inspected everything. it came out easily with just my hands and went right back in just as easy when i put it all back together. not sure if thats a bad thing but we'll see when i get out to shoot it again this weekend. the inside of the receiver was FILTHY so i think that had a lot to do with it jammin in the first place. also my old factory mag would have rounds slip down almost under/beside the follower.(i guess thats what we can call it.) id have to bang it on the table upside down to get the bullets to come back up and lock under the feed lips again. hopefully the new factory mag i bought will fix that problem. maybe betwwen replacing the mag and the good bath i gave it, it'll perform to my liking.

 

[fish30114]

Re: cci stingers in my 10/22

Cleaning your mags can make a big difference on their performance also. I don't use anything but dry (Bore Tec Tef Dri) to lube my rifles in general, but DEFINITELY my 10/22's.

Good luck!

 

[mrredbeard1959]

Re: cci stingers in my 10/22

my 10-22 shoots fine with stingers. never had a problem