Yes bullet to the lands. I am using 175 SMK. This measurement was the average of about 15 times loading round in the chamber. Sorry I wasn't more specific. I know Remington's are famous for having large chambers and I just wanted to make sure I wasn't measuring wrong. Thanks for the input. My average OAL I've been shooting has been 2.798. Been getting sub MOA groupings at 100 yards. Average grouping is .576. My smallest is .374. Largest 1.176. I'm using IMR4064 43.5-44.0 grains. Hornandy match brass.