I've rented Pandor's Promise and will be watching over the weekend some time. I think there is something to be said for nuclear power but the problem is that the planet has become too crowded, water is too scarce, the water needed to cool the reactors that is, you need to put the plants too close to population centers so you don't lose power by sending the signal over long lines and losing from bleedoff, and the list goes on and on. As for using a system like that is used on sea going vessels as somebody mentioned, those types of reactors don't have to supply an entire metropolis and they still have to be taken down and then disposed of properly. Too much money is spent securing the facilities and the threat of a terrorist attack or an earthquake causing a dangerous event is just too significant.
Movie Theater Chernobyl HBO Series
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That Chernobyl Series is pretty good. Really sad
Gives me a good glimpse of the FUSA
That Chernobyl Series is pretty good. Really sad
Gives me a good glimpse of the FUSA
Bought the book.
Author seems to have some great works on second half of 20th century history of CCCP/Russia.
Country is so depressing in the shit it puts itself through.
Living life in Russia seems to be a case not so much of "living" but "enduring".
Got to give the people credit for their will to survive and still love their motherland despite the pain their govts bring to them.
Author seems to have some great works on second half of 20th century history of CCCP/Russia.
Country is so depressing in the shit it puts itself through.
Living life in Russia seems to be a case not so much of "living" but "enduring".
Got to give the people credit for their will to survive and still love their motherland despite the pain their govts bring to them.
Thoroughly enjoyed the HBO mini-series. Actor selection and performance along with the writing - top notch!
I'm watching Pandora's Promise right now. It appears to be a front for nuclear energy.
What they don't tell you, though, even though they say the heating oil industry was anti-nuclear energy and it was behind much of the protestations, what they don't tell you is that the real problem when they talk about coal fired plants being dirty and pumping carbon dioxide into the atmosphere is that in reality, and nobody discusses this, the real dirty generator of energy is the internal combustion engine.
The automobile is the real problem, not the coal fired power plant. They've been able to completely distract the consumer and the activist away from that fact, that the real dirty engine in all of the debate about fossil fuels is the car that is operated every day at all levels of performance and care, which is why I favor Tesla and the like.
They've managed to focus the debate on coal fired plants with the hope of replacing them with something else when it is the personal car that is real problem and improper regulation of auto industry production and design. But they still make me go to have my emissions checked even though I have a new truck, something they started decades ago when they said they were only going to test older engines.
Also, they talk about combustion creating carbon dioxide but carbon monoxide is the deadly byproduct of combustion and it is what kills both plant and animal life. That is not mentioned anywhere in any movement today. That's the other dirty little secret. It is carbon monoxide that kills instantly.
What they don't tell you, though, even though they say the heating oil industry was anti-nuclear energy and it was behind much of the protestations, what they don't tell you is that the real problem when they talk about coal fired plants being dirty and pumping carbon dioxide into the atmosphere is that in reality, and nobody discusses this, the real dirty generator of energy is the internal combustion engine.
The automobile is the real problem, not the coal fired power plant. They've been able to completely distract the consumer and the activist away from that fact, that the real dirty engine in all of the debate about fossil fuels is the car that is operated every day at all levels of performance and care, which is why I favor Tesla and the like.
They've managed to focus the debate on coal fired plants with the hope of replacing them with something else when it is the personal car that is real problem and improper regulation of auto industry production and design. But they still make me go to have my emissions checked even though I have a new truck, something they started decades ago when they said they were only going to test older engines.
Also, they talk about combustion creating carbon dioxide but carbon monoxide is the deadly byproduct of combustion and it is what kills both plant and animal life. That is not mentioned anywhere in any movement today. That's the other dirty little secret. It is carbon monoxide that kills instantly.
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Only when I'm not driving it.
Right now it isn't feasible to use anything other than an internal combustion engine for most people, myself included, because that's what the transportation energy system is based on. If we spend so much time trying to change the focus away from the problems of the internal combustion engine, we will not find a solution.
Also, we for the most part we have had a choice between nuclear power and coal fired plants. We haven't had a choice historically until recently to drive anything other than fossil fuel powered automobiles.
So, it's a cute question asking me if I've stopped driving my car. I'm making a valid point, one that is effectively being hidden from a distracted public. The internal combustion engine does more damage than any of the alternatives we now have. It pollutes the air. Runoff from parking lots and streets poisons the water. Coal fired power plants may be problematic but they are nowhere near as polluting as all of the cars we drive.
Affordable alternatives for driving electric are only now coming online.
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The problem is we havent had a choice....
The problem is we havent had a viable choice.
Tesla is unaffordable to the average American.
Perhaps economy of scale will bring the price down as people purchase the cars.
The second problem is Americans are travelers.
A 300 mile range than a period of recharge works for very few Americans.
Having Americans accept these cars is having Americans accept being locked into a small area of movement.
How successful would Elon Musk be without govt subsidies?
My guess is not very.
When a technology is succesful it will be accepted by, no demanded by, the market.
No subsidy will be needed.
The first powered vehicle were electric and they did great service in what they were designed to do. Moving materials from relatively short distance inside a city. My wife with her 5 mile commute is a prime candidate for an electric vehicle but we are kind of loathe to spend 50K for a car that does 35 miles per week. Than we still face the issue of me being away at the range and her needing to take the kids to soccer what if the electric doesnt have the range?
It will be interesting to see in the coming decade what happens as these vehicles batteries lose their ability to charge and have to be disposed of/replaced. Are the owners prepared for that. What pollutants are contained in the battery.
At least something like a car battery is controlled and the heavy metals/pollutants are likely to be recycled unlike the disaster compact fluorescent light bulbs are. How many of those "green" nightmares are tossed into general landfills containing mercury?
Im not saying dont do anything. Continue the research.
but....forcing shit on the market never works well.
Yep, electric vehicles are still in their infancy in a sense and refueling is an issue to be sure. That will hopefully change.
OK, I just finished watching Pandora's Promise. It just seemed like a slick public relations piece probably funded remotely by the nuclear power industry. It ended with a scene of five or so street urchins huddled together in a third world country suggesting they need electricity and the argument was made just prior to that closing scene that those countries that use more power have a higher standard of living.
Point of contention: those countries that are having more children than they can sustain, whose populations are expanding to levels that are not sustainable are not in need of more electricity, they are in need of birth control and or the institution of the practice of abstinence. Personally I don't see why people receive a tax break for having children and more withholding on their paychecks here in this country when it is generally those families that use more government services while the single tax payer ends up paying because they don't get the deduction. That's f'd up socialism right there. The tax code is totally socialist in The US. But that is how many pols have gotten themselves elected. They promise voters somebody else's money. But I digress.
I couldn't believe they would pull a stunt like that, using dirty little street kids to justify the need for nuclear power.
The other thing was the story line about the 4th generation breeder reactor being able to re-utilize its waste byproducts to continuously run the reactor in perpetuity and that could also shut down on its own preventing a melt down but that the plug was pulled on development by John Kerry and the Senate of the reactor and so the "promise" of clean energy was written off. That's f'd up also but I guess we'll never know. The annual development price tag was astronomical though for something that in practicality is still entirely theoretical.
That suggestion that solar panel production is actually more harmful to the workers than nuclear power seems like a bit of a stretch, too. Wind turbines do kill birds (not discussed in the movie, just something I put in there) and something needs to be done about that but it probably can't be helped.
I'm still not convinced nuclear power is a viable source of energy for the public after that flick.
Point of contention: those countries that are having more children than they can sustain, whose populations are expanding to levels that are not sustainable are not in need of more electricity, they are in need of birth control and or the institution of the practice of abstinence. Personally I don't see why people receive a tax break for having children and more withholding on their paychecks here in this country when it is generally those families that use more government services while the single tax payer ends up paying because they don't get the deduction. That's f'd up socialism right there. The tax code is totally socialist in The US. But that is how many pols have gotten themselves elected. They promise voters somebody else's money. But I digress.
I couldn't believe they would pull a stunt like that, using dirty little street kids to justify the need for nuclear power.
The other thing was the story line about the 4th generation breeder reactor being able to re-utilize its waste byproducts to continuously run the reactor in perpetuity and that could also shut down on its own preventing a melt down but that the plug was pulled on development by John Kerry and the Senate of the reactor and so the "promise" of clean energy was written off. That's f'd up also but I guess we'll never know. The annual development price tag was astronomical though for something that in practicality is still entirely theoretical.
That suggestion that solar panel production is actually more harmful to the workers than nuclear power seems like a bit of a stretch, too. Wind turbines do kill birds (not discussed in the movie, just something I put in there) and something needs to be done about that but it probably can't be helped.
I'm still not convinced nuclear power is a viable source of energy for the public after that flick.
Have you neutered yourself yet?
Power does equal a higher standard of living thus why the Communists wanting us to live at the lowest common denominator are destroying our grid. The elite though will always have generators.
Once you figure out how to save the birds from windmills work on this problem.......
Everything has its issues.
Do I doubt but Kerry would veto the perpetual energy machine?
Not in a second. These fucks are always doing shady shit.
Kennedy traded a local military base to McCain for a large public works project in Boston.
Whatever it's all good for them.
Regards taxes......you seem to have the view our money is already the governments money and we should be happy with what they let us keep as if it's a gift. Nancy Pelosi certainly has that idea and has expressed it when speaking of 401K accounts which is scary as shit.
Fuck govt.
They should get a ten percent tithe and that's it.
The govt is not subsidizing middle class parents with kids. They are currently destroying the middle class because true freedom only exists in countries with a large and healthy middle class. Since 2001 they have been under attack.
Taxes should be paid by everyone.
If 100 percent of your income is derived from the public you should still pay your share.
The fact 51% pay nothing is a crime.
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We are going to digress again here in order to respond.
No, I haven't but many others have tried. I am frequently swarmed. Just listen to yourself and your outlandish inquiries. Have I neutered myself? What the fuck kind of question is that?
As for taxes, a flat tax is the fairest tax, no special deductions. That way everybody is equally invested in seeing that the country is run well. As it is now, some don't pay any taxes at all so why should they care if things are run well for everybody? They are run well for them, so why give a crap if the country is run well.
A flat tax is also the fairest tax.
As it is, with special deductions for having children, running certain types of businesses, single working stiffs like myself end up paying for everybody else's sexual behavior (children are the result of sexual activity, so it is fun to make them and people like myself are paying for others to have that kind of fun), and land ownership, and business activity.
Singles with no property or children are in effect tax surrogates under such a socialist tax code. It is a socialist tax code because that is where the money is being redistributed and where it is being taken from your pay. A fellow employee who has five children and makes mortgage payments yet makes exactly the same pay as I do because we have a negotiating bargaining unit that determines our pay gets a tax return of four to six times what I do, often more. We have worked in the same job for over ten years. In that time he has received tax returns often approaching $10,000. You know what that is? That is my money and the money of people like me. In the amount of time we have worked together I could have bought a house with the tax refunds he has received. And that doesn't include the fact that he has massive withholding on his pay check so he also takes home more pay every two weeks, yet we make the same wage and work exactly the same number of hours. Socialism.
Yet he is the one who uses all the government services, sending his children to public schools and he has also used public medical facilities. Yet I'm the one who pays. That is tax folly and totally unfair. He agrees with me. And I tell him to take the deductions. Who wouldn't? It is what I call "vote me me and I'll give you someone else's money socialism." I'm a conservative but it is the Republicans that have been at that the most and they claim to be the conservative party. It's one of the reasons I've been voting 3rd party more recently.
On the back of my truck (see attached pic) and once somebody even stuck something in a tire so I had to have it removed because they have no valid response, just a physical one.
My friend, I'm the real McCoy. I have a popular conservative blog and I am in the trenches, too. I'm not just some hopeful guy playing sniper. I'm already in the fight and have been there for years.
Of course they are trying to get at me. I'm what they fear the most.
Since you brought up the question of self-sterilization: It looks like you and perhaps many others who quietly sit there and do nothing about what is going on this country should be asking yourselves that question instead of asking me. Because from my point of view, that's what it looks like to me. I'm in the fight already and have been for some time. Most of you guys are just spouting off on a web site.
One other thing, to bring this back on topic. Radiation can sterilize both the male and female. That's why they put those lead apron's over you at the dentist and radiologist. A nuclear accident...could sterilize an entire community immediately. It could render an entire community uninhabitable and make the soil sterile and poisoned, useless for planting.
Will it happen? Probably not. Could it? Do you even have to ask?
In my opinion the risk is too high, especially when the cooing towers get their water from the only supply of fresh water in the region.
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If your concern is over population than it would seem you would ensure you do not contribute to the problem.
The Dems currently think exposing Trump pays zero in taxes will be embarrassing to him.
All it tells me, because I know he has been audited up the ass and hasn't been charged with tax evasion, is that our tax system sucks.
50 percent on the bottom pay zero and a rarified percentage at the top pay zero.
Does Trump pay taxes? Yes what he has built generates revenue for the state. Much more than Elizabeth Warren ever has or will.
If everyone paid a flat tax the debate about Trump not paying any taxes wouldn't exist. But that's what they are afraid of. They don't mind debating until the cows come home about it, as long as they can keep their deductions, Trump included. That's what the debate is about, prolonging the current state of the tax code. Trump is a willing participant. By not releasing his taxes he is contributing to the debate, fueling it.
I'm already there, dude. When you are out there on such an issue publicly, you are generally just ostracized in a country like this anyway and nobody has the balls to stand beside you even though they believe exactly the same ideology.
You keep talking about being neutered and "over population" and how people should ask if they've neutered themselves. It's a pattern. It is in the first sentence of all of your responses at this point. Can't be an accident. You are suggesting something, right. Seems like a fixation to me. Sounds like you are secretly a cross dresser or something because you want to appear to be civil in your discourse but you are blatantly uncivil in your suggestions. Which I don't have a problem with really as long as it doesn't effect me or increase my taxes.
I'm already there, dude. When you are out there on such an issue publicly, you are generally just ostracized in a country like this anyway and nobody has the balls to stand beside you even though they believe exactly the same ideology.
You keep talking about being neutered and "over population" and how people should ask if they've neutered themselves. It's a pattern. It is in the first sentence of all of your responses at this point. Can't be an accident. You are suggesting something, right. Seems like a fixation to me. Sounds like you are secretly a cross dresser or something because you want to appear to be civil in your discourse but you are blatantly uncivil in your suggestions. Which I don't have a problem with really as long as it doesn't effect me or increase my taxes.
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Furthermore, Trump isn't the tax maven you make him out to be. As an example:
thehill.com
Now when I buy a scope online that costs $1000, I have to add $50 to $60 dollars to that, a good portion of a days work when prior I didn't have to pay that tax and mail order catalog sales didn't charge it until the so-called conservatives saw how much money was potentially there and then they were only conservatives for a day. Did the big government types dirty work for them.
Those were so-called "conservative" judges, one of them that Trump installed, that increased my taxes. Conservative? Really? If conservative equates with big government, then maybe so. You've just been tricked into picking up somebody else's tab again and Trump favors it.
Trump also favors your ISP selling your internet activity, wholesale, to whomever comes along and offers money for it. He's a businessman, right.
In other words, your private activity right here even is up for sale. Maybe even a log of your key strokes. For sale. Trump has no problem with that. If you ask me, that is a form of betrayal of your privacy of rather significant proportions in the internet age.
So though I think the guy has a lot to offer, most of what it is negated severely by things like that.
Trump praises Supreme Court ruling in internet sales tax case
President Trump praised a Supreme Court ruling on Thursday that allows states to require out-of-state online retailers to collect sales taxes.”Big Supreme Court win on internet sales tax…
thehill.com Now when I buy a scope online that costs $1000, I have to add $50 to $60 dollars to that, a good portion of a days work when prior I didn't have to pay that tax and mail order catalog sales didn't charge it until the so-called conservatives saw how much money was potentially there and then they were only conservatives for a day. Did the big government types dirty work for them.
Those were so-called "conservative" judges, one of them that Trump installed, that increased my taxes. Conservative? Really? If conservative equates with big government, then maybe so. You've just been tricked into picking up somebody else's tab again and Trump favors it.
Trump also favors your ISP selling your internet activity, wholesale, to whomever comes along and offers money for it. He's a businessman, right.
In other words, your private activity right here even is up for sale. Maybe even a log of your key strokes. For sale. Trump has no problem with that. If you ask me, that is a form of betrayal of your privacy of rather significant proportions in the internet age.
So though I think the guy has a lot to offer, most of what it is negated severely by things like that.
Trump wont release because he has a media that will destroy him instead of educating the public why the system was rigged to allow him to do what he is doing legally.
Regards neutering I just find it interesting that people that recognize or say "This is the probem..." than propose solutions do not take upon the remedy for themselves.
Case in point.......
I think I may be going a bit too rough on Trump but only to prove my points, which are not entirely related, here. He has done a lot of good tax wise and with regard to geographic issues. But he opens himself up a lot to by deregulating sociopathic behaviors on the part of particular corporations and insults a lot of various special interest groups, environmentalists, women, you name it. So he is doing pretty good taking all of the flack in my opinion.
But I am a hunter and fishermen so the environment is an issue for me. When he went after clean air and water, for me that's a problem. Yeah, he saved me some tax dollars by doubling my standard deduction for a couple of years but the environment is for ever.
As for Hollywood types, the mainstream media should be the first to be targeted if you want to return the country to what you seek. It was when we went into Iraq the first and second time. Stop the cancerous message, stop the behavior. Trump was even talking about media controls initially, which caused them to shriek and perhaps rightfully so. But the real reason the media is harping constantly on Trump is because he put people back to work and people who are working are not watching television or listening to the radio or surfing the internet even and so the media see him as a threat to their profit margins. Hence, the constant attacks on Trump and the Dems have recognized that and are using it rather successfully to their benefit.
I think the only thing that could save Trump in the next election is if he legalizes marijuana usage at the federal level. It's happening around the country and it is one of the three wedge issues, two of which are owned by The Dems, abortion rights, gun restrictions are dem issues. If they also hold marijuana as their final wedge issue, that's it for Trump, barring any unforeseen circumstances.
But we've gotten off topic.
Nuclear power is an iffy bet. History proves it. It's only a matter of time before it becomes problematic again. yeah, it's clean, until it isn't.
As for the picture you included: yep
But I am a hunter and fishermen so the environment is an issue for me. When he went after clean air and water, for me that's a problem. Yeah, he saved me some tax dollars by doubling my standard deduction for a couple of years but the environment is for ever.
As for Hollywood types, the mainstream media should be the first to be targeted if you want to return the country to what you seek. It was when we went into Iraq the first and second time. Stop the cancerous message, stop the behavior. Trump was even talking about media controls initially, which caused them to shriek and perhaps rightfully so. But the real reason the media is harping constantly on Trump is because he put people back to work and people who are working are not watching television or listening to the radio or surfing the internet even and so the media see him as a threat to their profit margins. Hence, the constant attacks on Trump and the Dems have recognized that and are using it rather successfully to their benefit.
I think the only thing that could save Trump in the next election is if he legalizes marijuana usage at the federal level. It's happening around the country and it is one of the three wedge issues, two of which are owned by The Dems, abortion rights, gun restrictions are dem issues. If they also hold marijuana as their final wedge issue, that's it for Trump, barring any unforeseen circumstances.
But we've gotten off topic.
Nuclear power is an iffy bet. History proves it. It's only a matter of time before it becomes problematic again. yeah, it's clean, until it isn't.
As for the picture you included: yep
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Marijuana a wedge issue?
Man what have we become as a country.
Trump is trying to end PC. PC is a violation of a free state. His attacks on PC are having the effect that the libs are digging in and going even further with trying to criminalize language now in response. I hope the fence sitters are seeing where it is intended this go and they will reject the idea that saying a word is a punishable offense resulting in a criminal record.
Trump is not against clean air and water but he is against the over bearing regulation that is in place to destroy our economy and independence while doing nothing to hinder the real polluters we must compete against.
All we have done is export our pollution to other parts of the world that have no intention of cleaning up their processes and now that we have decided to supply our Walmarts on their dirty manufacturing they are profitable and increasing their rate of pollution.
If you like clean air and water you want Trump to win the trade war with China and see manufacturing come back here where we have some concern and activism to ensure providing for the market is done so responsibly.
Shit will cost us more but the costs are worth it in putting people to work and getting more responsibly manufacturered products.
Will it be perfect - 737 Max Hell No! - but those corporations should be held accountable in the judicial system and forced to change. They will learn. They dont need to be regulated out of business.
Hollywood and the MSM are only two parts of an unholy triad.
Our schools are the breeding ground for the antifreedom movement. "Red for Ed" is an advertisement of who and what they are. Thing is the rank and file of the group really dont understand the harm they are bringing but they go along just following their provided curriculum blindly.
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I watched an excellent documentary on it. The best I’ve ever seen. I think it shows a great generalization of what went on. It comes down to Russian politics, the guy supposedly trying to put on the test wouldn’t listen to the actual engineers telling him not to do it that way. But because you were not supposed to question your superiors, he was removed from the test and somebody else was made to do it.
90 percent of the country's population now has access to either medical or adult recreational usage. In those areas where usage is legal, adolescent use goes down. Accidental death by opioids goes down. Cancer patients live longer. The cost to police for it goes down. Tax revenues skyrocket. That's what has become of the country.
It's a win-win and watch, one party in particular will make it an issue. Voters who use it regularly will be a large portion of the voting population and will swing the vote.
In fact you can now purchase stock on the Nasdaq and NYSE as well as over the counter stocks from companies that are based in The US and getting into the business. It's happening quickly. I've been thinking of investing myself. Those who bought into the alcohol business following the end of alcohol prohibition did very well for themselves. You see their names on stadiums and products all around the country. I'm sure there was a similar sentiment prior to the repeal of alcohol prohibition. People like yourself were probably saying, Man what have we become as a country?
And we are all the better for it. No more gansters shooting the place up. No more bathtub gin blinding thousands, killing 50,000 people from improperly manufactured alcohol. http://prohibition.themobmuseum.org...ition-underworld/bootleggers-and-bathtub-gin/
I think this is a different thread, though.
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Looking to increase revenue off marijuana is as decrepit as thinking the lottery is a great way to increase revenue - talk about regressive taxation.
The state will tax marijuana to the extent the black market still exists.
Only difference will be that the state now feels its getting ripped off so it may actually do something about it.
Legal or illegal. I really dont care. Just hold people responsible for the damage that is sure to follow. Legalize heroin, legalize it all Im okay with it. The only social program I want in place to pick up the pieces is "Darwin". If there is one methadone clinic funded through tax money keep the shit illegal.
Yeah, I don't think it is the end of the world thing you fear. When I visited on business over the summer I noticed that Denver has a crane on practically every block putting up a new building or working on an existing one. Old buildings and warehouses are being refurbished into fancy new office buildings and coffee houses. There is a hustle and bustle there unlike any other for a city in that part of the country and I've been to 25 countries and seen economic activity, you could say so I know what a healthy economy looks like first hand.
Are their problems? I suppose. There are problems with legal alcohol. Fear won't work with this voter in 2020. They are going to vote for the candidate that supports legalization. Why? What do you think? They are already voting for the candidate that supports legalization at the local level. And Denver just legalized a couple of years ago. 1 Billion in revenue and a savings for not having to prosecute for it. People looked happy. Business was booming. What more can you ask for. I mean it's not like the entire city was using it. Europe figured that out in some parts decades ago.
Sooner or later you are going to have to stop fear mongering.
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I dont fear...
I dont really care.
I just ask that everyone deciding accept personal responsibility , expect responsibility and demand justice.
MA is dealing with its first court case MV Homocide Marijuana right now. Judge is deliberating this weekend - its a bench trial.
Guy just coming from the MJ dispensary slammed into the back of a State Police cruiser killing the Trooper on the side of the road writing a ticket to a violator.
Man had 7 young kids, over ten years as a Trooper, USMC and Army time before that - GONE.
Guys defense is now claiming "It wasnt the MJ in his system. It was a seizure. A seizure he has no medical history of ever having previously."
I can live with that result, not that I like it.
Just ensure me that the driver will be responsible for and perhaps suffer the same fate as the good man he killed.
We are not guaranteed safety in a free country.
We should be guaranteed justice though.
That guys right to MJ does not supersede 7 kids and a wife from expecting their loved one to come home.
This thread went to shit.
True.
but never let an opportunity to show someone they are wrong pass by.
we have done it for too long and the current state of country affairs is what we have to show for it.
Ill never change WT1s mind but I hope that my argument is making more sense to the middle of the road guy that never had to consider the topic until now.
In an ideal world for WT1 he would just say his shit unchallenged and it would be accepted by that middle of the road guy as gospel instead of the BS it is.
WT1's signature election agenda is legal pot for fuck sakes.
Im guessing his second agenda item is that "pot should be free, its a right".
but never let an opportunity to show someone they are wrong pass by.
we have done it for too long and the current state of country affairs is what we have to show for it.
Ill never change WT1s mind but I hope that my argument is making more sense to the middle of the road guy that never had to consider the topic until now.
In an ideal world for WT1 he would just say his shit unchallenged and it would be accepted by that middle of the road guy as gospel instead of the BS it is.
WT1's signature election agenda is legal pot for fuck sakes.
Im guessing his second agenda item is that "pot should be free, its a right".
Ha ha. Geez. I'm the one who kept saying we need to get back on topic. I'll take full responsibility. I'll start another thread about it somewhere when I have the time.
Ha ha. Yes, I'm sorting brass now and taking a break here and there and posting comments. They are what they are. I'm not insulting anyone whereas it has not been likewise. In fact that's what has been the modis from just about anyone who disagrees on this thread. Insult someone. Suggest they are no longer male because their opinion differs. Give it a rest. Only socialist losers talk like that because they think they can hide behind a crowd. Only people who question their own sexuality.
I know you wouldn't say that to me in person. Only a chump would talk like that and only online because he knows he'd get put down directlly and only a chump would defend someone who talks like that when they have no real position, just the useful idiot stuff.
I don't think I said I didn't want to hear what anyone else said in response. I'm just sharing what I see and what I know. And its accurate.
And when did "Let's go blowing" (sounds really, reeeeaaaally stupid) become the defactor moderator of all in these forums?
Reeks of fear of debate, of open discourse. You will render your guns useless yourselves if you shut everyone else's opinion out and that is probably one of the reasons our gun rights are constantly under attack. Refusal to look at the world as someone else sees it.
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Never implied you were not male. Protest much?
I am kind of confused why after dropping out of the race yesterday though you would come here and post.
I enjoy the political discourse here in the Pit. It is for the free expression of ideas. Much better if you start a post dedicated to your own idea and not trash someone elses but par for the course (not for you personally but in the general sense).
I have listened to your argument and as you make it Im rejecting it. dont blame me take a look at the salesman and ask what he is doing wrong.
You have made some suggestions about electric cars and alternative energy systems that though I admit the possibilities are there but the technology is not yet mature and having govt force it upon us is BS and might I add outside the purview of their Constitutional powers.
The thing that really ticks me off is that you seem intelligent yet you are basing your vote upon who is most likely to legalize MJ.
No concern at all that we are currently living under a two tiered legal justice system that only applies to you and I but not an elite.
or....
that we appear to have a shadow govt composed of bureaucrats that feel elections dont apply to them and whomever the people elect should bend to their beliefs on how or who should be the impotent figurehead. Now faced with someone challenging their power they are prepared to burn the country down to maintain their hold on govt.
Dont worry there will be plenty of ganja for the child soldiers the way we are going. They will need it just to forget the brutality they will be committing.
Ha, that's funny. What topic are you talking about now? Sounds to me like you are the one running for office. Talking about me in the third person and to a so-called audience it sounds like you are doing. Come on. Give it a break.
It's too bad about the trooper, by the way.
"I enjoy the political discourse here in the Pit. It is for the free expression of ideas. " You were balling about it a couple of posts ago and now you are enjoying it. OK.
You spend an awful lot of time focusing on me and very little on the subject at hand for some reason, more time trying to counter who I might be as if you were something lurking here among us regular people. Maybe even did some searching about me and tried to put 2 and 2 together.
I admitted I digressed and took full responsibility for it. But you can't give it a rest.
Once again the bird.
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In the first quote I was offering an explanation and apology of sorts to the OP @Centuriator .
Reading comprehension is not a strong suit?
I didnt say you couldnt have your say. I just said your arguments lack reason. You kind of think highly of yourself and might be a bit paranoid. Im not computer literate enough to sleuth you out. If you worry about that why not give a review of the innovative Hopelite action being built by @THEIS and you will be fully vetted to determine if you have the chops to comment or are just another boxer clad, moms basement keyboard commando. Besides what "2 and 2" do you have to put together? Now Im kind of curious your comment indicates that there is something to learn.
Dont be offended if you post something and find that someone challenges it.
If your idea is good defend it.
Shaaddddddup! You ain't a good enough debater to splain yer way out of the stoopid sheet you say'd. Or rather, give it a rest. I have.
Yeah, you would think that would be advisable from a doctrinal perspective. The problem with that is that the downfall of the Soviet Union was brought about by popularism. In other words, the public, the people of the member countries wanted it to happen. Also, we would have been attacking a country that was changing to a form that we had worked very hard to bring about since World War II. The rest of the world would have seen us merely as militaristic opportunists and we would have lost face globally.
Now had the Soviet Union fallen to a military coup, then such an approach would have been justified, Pattonesque almost.
Agreed.
The problem with the fall of the Soviet Union was Bill Clinton.
He looked at the fall as a "Peace Dividend" and just abandoned all and anything to do with Russia. Bet he kept some side deals and started funding the Clinton Global Initiative with what he could there though.
Had we some sort of Marshall Plan than we might have put Russia on a footing to succeed without creating the oligarchy system.
Im not in for nation building but in Russia you had a chance to make it work. Western educated, bountiful resources, hobbled by 1000 years of tyrannical history.
We would have a better chance due to having more in common getting Russia to become functional than we would trying to Afghanistan, Haiti, Syria, Libya or any number of other places we let the NeoCons fuck up.
Agreed, and even then the cold war was intrinsically a defensive situation from both sides. What I can't abide all the same is how they spread communist ideals all over the globe, even today they have a network of international influence. Let's not forget that the USSR was part of the Axis of Evil which slithered into our graces simply to spite Hitler, and today the same ideals have been gorging on democratic vestiges the world over. There's a fight we never finished, and if the entirety of Russia were turned into a crater at this very moment I would not shed a single tear. Letting them continue on their own accord was a mistake, not for reasons of retribution, but because they have undermined democracy the world over since.
I think they have their own problems to contend with.
That and the west has continued to contain them and limit their influence.
Dont care one way or the other about Russia but Im confused why we consider them the boogey men while we try to cuddle with China.
China is fucking us and still living openly under the red flag.
Russia is isolated while China one belt, one roads its way into getting a foothold in every part of the world.
Lets be realistic.
That and the west has continued to contain them and limit their influence.
Dont care one way or the other about Russia but Im confused why we consider them the boogey men while we try to cuddle with China.
China is fucking us and still living openly under the red flag.
Russia is isolated while China one belt, one roads its way into getting a foothold in every part of the world.
Lets be realistic.
Good points. Much of the leadership cuddles with China because they provide the profit margins that our retailers love. The reason Clinton gave China most favored nation trading status is because he is from Arkansas. Who is headquartered in Arkansas? Walmart. That's another issue I think Trump is handling well, the trade issue with China who has been known to even put military personnel in factories to ensure production. No way we can compete with that in a free market economy. Trump is on it.
Yes, Family Video had it and you can also rent it at the library.
True, the robots failed and they used what the physicist guy called "human robots" or something like that. Something like 3,800 soldiers were cycled through the facility for 90 seconds each I believe and told to scoop up as much radioactive graphite and dump it into the reactor core and that was it for each one, 90 seconds I believe. At least that is what was suggested by the movie.
I'm generally suspect of any possible revisionism in such an historical account though and in Pandora's Promise, which I rented from the library, there was a tremendous amount of revisionism. When you were finished watching Pandora's Promise, practically nobody died from Chernobyl but when you watched the actual movie Chernobyl there was an epilogue that said many died, including all of those or most of those who watched the first night during the explosion from a bridge a couple of klicks from the reactor, or they all got cancer of some type, something to that effect. So the Chernobyl movie results don't correlate with the death counts from Pandora's Promise. Another reason why I am skeptical of the "promise" of nuclear power.
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Democracy is a fragile thing, the USSR has done more to undermine democracy than any other nation on earth. Not saying China gets a pass for it, god knows we've come to blows with them over the same shit, but when it comes down to what nation on earth I hope burns for it— it's Russia. They should have been put down like the rabid sleddogs they are when we had the chance. In contrast we never had that chance with China, but I hope one day we will.
So....about nuclear power...
When you read in-depth about how this accident happened, one should realize it would have never happened but for MULTIPLE failures of MULTIPLE processes by MULTIPLE people. Sure the reactor design could have been better, but the failure lies directly at the feet of culture and complacency.
Even on this thread people have discussed Fukishima; the power company knew about tsunami risks and did NOTHING. If they'd have put the damn backup generators on the roof instead of ground level, that entire disaster likely would have been greatly mitigated if not outright averted.
Again, PEOPLE failed - not the technology. And if we're to say "the risks are too great" that is to say that they cannot be mitigated, which is false.
I'm all for renewable electricity (my barn has off-grid solar) but we aren't going to wind turbine and PV ourselves off traditional power generation with current technology and demand for electricity certainly isn't going down. Our abundant supply of natural gas has certainly changed both economics and environmental impact of power generation, but short of a Stark Industries Arc Reactor, nuclear is probably our world's best option for clean energy RIGHT NOW (even considering the waste) and we're probably shortchanging ourselves by not looking ahead at it for what will be necessary for longer space exploration in the future.
When you read in-depth about how this accident happened, one should realize it would have never happened but for MULTIPLE failures of MULTIPLE processes by MULTIPLE people. Sure the reactor design could have been better, but the failure lies directly at the feet of culture and complacency.
Even on this thread people have discussed Fukishima; the power company knew about tsunami risks and did NOTHING. If they'd have put the damn backup generators on the roof instead of ground level, that entire disaster likely would have been greatly mitigated if not outright averted.
Again, PEOPLE failed - not the technology. And if we're to say "the risks are too great" that is to say that they cannot be mitigated, which is false.
I'm all for renewable electricity (my barn has off-grid solar) but we aren't going to wind turbine and PV ourselves off traditional power generation with current technology and demand for electricity certainly isn't going down. Our abundant supply of natural gas has certainly changed both economics and environmental impact of power generation, but short of a Stark Industries Arc Reactor, nuclear is probably our world's best option for clean energy RIGHT NOW (even considering the waste) and we're probably shortchanging ourselves by not looking ahead at it for what will be necessary for longer space exploration in the future.
Yeah, I know. But what if a plane crashed into the roof and the generators were smashed?
The one interesting fact I thought which came from the movie Pandora's Promise was that US nuclear plants run a lot on nuclear warheads from defunct Russian nuclear tipped missiles. Again, I don't know how true that is, but it was interesting to note and it may suggest something about Hillary Clinton's deal with Russia to sell a large stock of our fissile material to them.
I don't have the GAF to really discuss it anymore, it's nothing any American here doesn't already know. To be honest I didn't even read your post and I deleted my old one because I just stopped fucking caring. My sentiments on the matter are basically if it's bad and it happened/happens to Russia then it's fucking good. Fuck them, their communist ideals, and fuck even pissing on them to put out a fire. Communists are the political equivalent of paedophiles in my eyes, they deserve no quarter.
That's not to say I have anything against Russian people, if they want to not be communist I would even sympathize with them. Alas, their nation is no bastion of liberty. Bombing it into a parking lot and using it as a landing pad for helicopter rides when we get to the Chinese government is just simply not going to happen, but supporting them is fucked. I hope everything bad in the world happens to Russia and only Russia, fuck them and fuck the MSNBBCNN bullshit machine too.
That's not to say I have anything against Russian people, if they want to not be communist I would even sympathize with them. Alas, their nation is no bastion of liberty. Bombing it into a parking lot and using it as a landing pad for helicopter rides when we get to the Chinese government is just simply not going to happen, but supporting them is fucked. I hope everything bad in the world happens to Russia and only Russia, fuck them and fuck the MSNBBCNN bullshit machine too.
