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Civil Asset Forfeiture takes a big hit

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This article doesn't make it clear if civic asset forfeiture has been ruled unconstitutional (it is) or of this will be precedent to fight it, it's about time a case made it to the high courts, departments were pretty good at rolling over before case law could be set.

https://www.yahoo.com/entertainment/supreme-court-just-stopped-local-210800380.html

On Wednesday, the Supreme Court unanimously decided the case of Timbs v. Indiana. The decision was an auspicious one, and it was auspicious for two reasons. The first was that the decision was written by Justice Ruth Bader Ginsburg so, yes, she's back, sports fans. The second is that it was a harpoon sunk deeply into the scam that is the civil forfeiture procedure.


Tyson Timbs is an Indiana man who was busted in his SUV and who later pleaded guilty to drug-related offenses. The state went after his ride, estimated to cost $42,000. A state court came down against the forfeiture because the vehicle was worth far more than the fine that Timbs was assessed, which the state court determined violated the Eighth Amendment's protection against excessive bail. The state took the case to Washington, arguing that the amendment's prohibition only extended to federal actions.


Yeah, said RBG, the 14th Amendment says maybe not so much.


The Eighth Amendment’s Excessive Fines Clause is an incorporated protection applicable to the States under the Fourteenth Amendment’s Due Process Clause...Protection against excessive fines has been a constant shield throughout Anglo-American history for good reason: Such fines undermine other liberties [...] The historical and logical case for concluding that the Fourteenth Amendment incorporates the Excessive Fines Clause is indeed overwhelming.​

The misuse of the forfeiture statutes has become epidemic among local and state police departments. Too often, it leads to baroque corruption, and it also functions as a backdoor way to fund basic services in municipalities that don't have the guts to ask their citizens for tax increases. It's gotten so bad out in the country that both sides of the ideological ditch have come to oppose it, and it's central to the appeal of bipartisan criminal-justice reform. Now, those folks have a powerful legal weapon.

More from RBG:


Excessive fines can be used, for example, to retaliate against or chill the speech of political enemies. . . . Even absent a political motive, fines may be employed in a measure out of accord with the penal goals of retribution and deterrence.​

And, as a measure of the cross-ideological appeal of the ruling, Justice Clarence Thomas's concurrence went right to the heart of the scam. Civil forfeiture, he wrote, has become...


widespread and highly profitable... This system - where police can seize property with limited judicial oversight and retain it for their own use - has led to egregious and well-chronicled abuses.​

Sorry, Mayor Goober. You're out of the car-theft business. You're going to have to ask the residents of Bugtussle to tax themselves if you want to buy that rocket-launcher.
 
This article doesn't make it clear if civic asset forfeiture has been ruled unconstitutional (it is) or of this will be precedent to fight it, it's about time a case made it to the high courts, departments were pretty good at rolling over before case law could be set.
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Sorry, Mayor Goober. You're out of the car-theft business. You're going to have to ask the residents of Bugtussle to tax themselves if you want to buy that rocket-launcher.
Good article and nice link at the end. Barney Fife gets one rocket launcher, but has to keep the rocket in his pocket.

 
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The fact that all 9 justices voted for the same opinion is a pretty solid unmistakable signal that the days of the police & cities having a licence to do open brazen theft for profit are numbered.

Conservatives & liberals both are fed up with the racket that is law enforcement and property seizures in this country.

I'm assuming that how initially this will be used is that while they may be able to seize your stuff, they will have a hard time keeping it, if the value of the seized items exceeds the fine amounts that the law stipulates for the crime.

Hopefully the first place this gets firmly applied is those out of control "game warden" rings and all those "Drug stop" towns looking to seize everybody's vehicles they can for profit.
 
Now if we can only get the court to recognize lawyers fees and court fees defending yourself against 'process' crimes are defacto fines, and therefore excessive. This would end things like Bob Mueller's witch hunt.
 
Now if we can only get the court to recognize lawyers fees and court fees defending yourself against 'process' crimes are defacto fines, and therefore excessive. This would end things like Bob Mueller's witch hunt.

Agreed............all except the part where the taxpayers have to cough up the dough to cover the bureaucrats mal/misfeasance. What would really drop the anchor on all this horseshit is if some of these paper peddling bureaucrats had to pay for their fuckups out of their own purses. Now wouldn't that be something ?
 
It is obvious that Amy Coney Barrett is wearing a skin suit made from that creepy old bitch.
She didn't have cancer removed, they had her old ass in a dry well rubbing lotion on her skin for the last month.
 
"If you're not a criminal you have nothing to worry about"
Right. Except that you will shortly be classified as a criminal, once all of these great gun control laws are passed. Then you have something to worry about.
 
I've actually had some insight into a pair of folks that decided they were going to go from VA to CO with something like 30 grand in cashola. Got busted on the way back with about 20 grand and a ton of jazz cabbage between 'em. Got all their cash back eventually, but the driver did some small amount of time for the cannabis I believe. Fucking retards, lol. They did make their money honestly as far as I know, they were just stupid as hell and the whole ordeal was mostly pointless.
 
Come on guys War on Drugs and Blue Lives Matter. Cops would never do anything that’s unconstitutional. :end sarcasm

I guess I should follow up, I’m not bashing cops, but checks and balances are good things for state agencies. ALL state agencies.
 
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