Rifle Scopes Click value

[Blue X]

Hey guys im new to your forum. I joined to ask this question. I have done a search and a google search and came up with virtually nothing.

I have a vortex pst viper 6-24x50 gen 1 scope. I have had great service out of it so no complaints or product bashing of any sort.

I have always been a rats ass off on all my ballistic software. I did a click value test i downloaded and found the turret value to be 1.05 mil instead of 1 mil. So i put that in ballistic ae and it hit my shot in marks out to 1200 which i just shot friday.

so I have a perfect 1 mill reticle and 1.05 mil turret. Before with click value set to 1, my reticle matched ballistic ae but my turret did not. Now after changing to 1.05 turret value, my turret matches ballistic ae but my reticle will not.

My questions are

How do you guys get around this?

what are the normal turret values of vortex, nightforce and other scopes?

Thanks for your time
Blue X

 

[Dthomas3523]

Hey guys im new to your forum. I joined to ask this question. I have done a search and a google search and came up with virtually nothing.

I have a vortex pst viper 6-24x50 gen 1 scope. I have had great service out of it so no complaints or product bashing of any sort.

I have always been a rats ass off on all my ballistic software. I did a click value test i downloaded and found the click value to be 1.05 instead of 1. So i put that in ballistic ae and it hit my shot in marks out to 1200 which i just shot friday.

so I have a perfect 1 mill reticle and 1.05 turret. Before with click value set to 1, my reticle matched ballistic ae but my turret did not. Now after changing to 1.05 click value, my turret matches ballistic ae but my reticle will not.

My questions are

How do you guys get around this?

what are the normal click values of vortex, nightforce and other scopes?

Thanks for your time
Blue X

Did you true your data (MV and BC) first?

 

[_Windrider_]

Well since most turrets dial in .1 increments not .01 increments I would change your click value to either 1.1 or 1.0.

 

[pewpewfever]

If you can upgrade your scope, that would be preferable.

Otherwise, you can just subtract .1 mil for every two Mils of elevation.

 

[Blue X]

Did you true your data (MV and BC) first?

yea i went thru all that stuff pretty good. each click has a gain of .o5. At 1100 yards is roughly 10 mill, that is a half a mill elevation gain or 20"@1100

I can true that out on the turret but the reticle now will have a half a mill loss from what the ballistic solver says . so either there both on or one or the other is off.


Blue X

 

[_Windrider_]

yea i went thru all that stuff pretty good. each click has a gain of .o5. At 1100 yards is roughly 10 mill, that is a half a mill elevation gain or 20"@1100

I can true that out on the clicks but the reticle now will have a half a mill loss from what the ballistic solver says . so either there both on or one or the other is off.


Blue X

Wait wait. Each click or every mil you dial is actually 1.05 mils? It’s critical to be accurate in what you are describing here.

The reticle is correct I’m almost sure of it. You can hold using the reticle with confidence. When you dial you need to account for it.

 

[cornhusker86]

I have the exact same scope and never ran into this problem. Might be a good idea to call vortex and see if they'll take a look at it.

 

[Blue X]

Wait wait. Each click or every mil you dial is actually 1.05 mils? It’s critical to be accurate in what you are describing here.

The reticle is correct I’m almost sure of it. You can hold using the reticle with confidence. When you dial you need to account for it.

sorry buddy, I went back and edited my post not to mess up anything.

every mill dialed has a .05 gain, so 10 mills dialed will actually move 10.5 mills.

The reticle is correct in its marks, however both the correct reticle and the 1.05 turret cant match the same ballistic chart at the same time.

 

[Blue X]

I have the exact same scope and never ran into this problem. Might be a good idea to call vortex and see if they'll take a look at it.

im thinking your probally right. it has been great, I have no complaints. weve hit a whole lot of far away targets together.

 

[Steel+Killer]

Your hold value and your dial value are never going to match exactly is what you are saying? So if the solver is saying come up 10.5 mils that would not be the same as looking through the scope and holding 10.5 mils if the solver automatically accounted for the turret being off.

 

[_Windrider_]

sorry buddy, every mill dialed has a .05 gain, so 10 mills dialed will actually move 10.5 mills.

The reticle is correct in its marks, however both the correct reticle and the 1.05 turret cant match the same ballistic chart at the same time.

Yes it can if you tell the ballistic software what the true value really is.

 

[Steel+Killer]

I think what the OP is saying is that if you tell the ballistic solver that the turrets are off and the firing solution that it gives is the corrected dialed solution then that will not match what the actual hold value would be looking through the scope at the reticle.

 

[stello1001]

So for every click, it's not exactly one tenth of a mil, as in it's not moving your reticle up or down .1 but instead it's moving .15? Or for every ten clicks it's moved 1.05 mils instead of just 1.0?

 

[_Windrider_]

I think what the OP is saying is that if you tell the ballistic solver that the turrets are off and the firing solution that it gives is the corrected dialed solution then that will not match what the actual hold value would be looking through the scope at the reticle.

Ok but if you are dialing who cares? You dialed the dope. Aim center mass. Fire. If you want to hold zero the turret and hold. If you dial a specific dope for a given range and need to take a follow up and want to hold just adjust. It’s within any margin of error most of us can shoot.

I guess I don’t see the issue. The most important factor is to know your turret value. Once you know that you can account for anything else.

 

[Blue X]

Your hold value and your dial value are never going to match exactly is what you are saying? So if the solver is saying come up 10.5 mils that would not be the same as looking through the scope and holding 10.5 mils if the solver automatically accounted for the turret being off.

Yes it can if you tell the ballistic software what the true value really is.

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Hey, you are right. It didnt dawn on me until the palmetto pride guy said automatically accounted for the turret value being a little off.

An hour and 30 min and my problem is solved.

I appriciate your help and all the replies.

Blue X