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Rifle Scopes Confessions of an Osprey user

hrfunk

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At last Year's NRA Annual Meeting in Pittsburg, I was cheerfully purusing the wares of various manufacturers when I happened upon a table covered with riflescopes. The fellow behind the table, who introduced himself as the owner of Osprey Worldwide, was all too happy to tell me about his scopes (which included the oft repeated mantra concerning the same lenses used by Nightforce, etc.). He was even more eager to educate me about his products after I mentioned I was a LE Sniper. I must admit to being a curious about Osprey scopes after hearing a favorable report on their performance from a Sniper instructor at the state Police Academy. Anyway, the fellow behind the table got around to offering to sell me a scope for a low enough price that I thought "what the hell, if it's junk, I'll just pitch it."

The model I purchased was the 4-16X50 Mil-Dot version. I should mention here that the scope I've been using for years on my 700P is a Leupold 4.5-14X40 Tactical model that has been rock solid. It is my benchmark for comparing other scopes (I know, I know, these days anything with a light funnel smaller than 50 mm is hardly even considered to be a scope, but in my defense, I've been using this set-up since before "these days.") I mounted the Osprey on a rifle that is becoming a "test-bed" of sorts. It is capable of half MOA or a bit better with me at the wheel. My first impression of the Osprey was that it was definately inferior to my trusty Leupold in fit & finish, but not nearly so much as its bargain-basement price tagwould suggest. The target turrets possessed positive tactile clicks, but they were faint in the audible sense. They are also graduated in 1/8 MOA, which I don't care for, but I can use them well enough. The side-focus/parallax adjustment performed as it was supposed to, but I prefer distance calibration markings to the ever increasing circle markings on the Osprey. Functionally, I just looked through the scope and turned the dial until the image was in clear focus, ignoring the circles altogether. In all fairness, I've done the same with my Leupold on deployments where either low light conditions, or fear of detection by the bad guys prevented me from dialing in the AO to a specific distance. In any case, the side focus is still preferable to the AO, and the circles are no great hinderance.

Another positive note for the Osprey was light transmission. Whether the whole "same lenses used by Nightforce" claim is malarkey, or not; the image, at least in bright sunlight, was very bright, and reasonably clear. In low-light conditions, the image is not nearly as impressive as the Leupold 4.5-14X50 on my partner's rifle. I suspect the difference here is not so much lens quality, but rather the type and number of optical coatings. this is not to suggest the Osprey is unusable in low light, it's just not as good as the better scopes (that's part of what the additional $1000 gets you). If low-light performance is important to you, look at the better scopes; if, however, you only shoot on warm, sunny days from a bench, that extra performance (and price) may do little for you.

After zeroing the scope to the rifle (an AR based system in 5.56 mm firing 77 grain FGMM). I noted that the rifle was still capable of .5 MOA or better groups out to 300 yards (my max range for this particular system, and the 5.56mm in general for anti-bad guy applications). On the negative side, the turrets did not track exactly 1/8 MOA. They were in the ball park, and they would probably have worked fine if my goal was simply whacking a 6-10" steel target. I demand a much higher degree of accuracy than that, and the Osprey simply could not deliver that level of precision. Similarly, the scope did not return exactly to zero. Again, it was not radically off, well within minute of chest shot, but less than minute of eye ball. I confirmed these results on a subsequent trip to the range by means of a box test. Surprisingly, it the Osprey did better than I expected on the test (which was performed at 100 yards) the shots on the various "corners" of the box were fairly close, although the corners themselves consisted of 1 MOA target spotters and, again, the Osprey could not meet that degree of precision. More troubling than the box test was the fact that the zero had wandered just a bit from my first outing with the scope. It was, in fact off by almost exactly 1MOA.

At the end of the day, my opinion of the Osprey is somewhat mixed. It is worth noting that nothing fell/broke off during use, and this includes some fairly vigorous training, and it demonstrated the ability to allow accurate shots to be placed on target. The image, in good light, is usable as is the reticle, and the focus knob works even if its markings are not to my liking. On the down side, it lacks absolute precision in adjustment, and the zero seems to wander a bit. The degree of importance a given shooter assigns to these issues will depend entirely upon the type of shooting being performed. For informal shooting to moderate ranges (such as 300 yards) on targets no smaller than about 3 MOA, the Osprey will probably work well enough (assuming, of course the performance is similar to the one I tested). For cutting edge accuracy, at extended ranges, or under extreme conditions, however, you should probably choose something else. I suspect, however, there are shooters out there, of limited means, who's accuracy requirements do not exceed those mentioned above ( there may be more of these shooters than not). For them, the Osprey may work just fine.

For me, the Osprey will soon be retired. The good news is that I'll probably be able to trade it for nearly the same amount as I paid for it
 
Re: Confessions of an Osprey user

I have one of these and got it wet last tuesday. Now the back lense is loose and if you touch the lense you can see the reticle move. Im gonna call the guy i bought it from and see if they have any warranty. I just cant wait to get the money saved for a real scope.
 
Re: Confessions of an Osprey user

I would never endorse an Osprey to any type of shooter. It seems like you did a pretty thorough test, but you did it with a typical gun show sucker scope. At around $300 I would suggest something like SWFA's super sniper or a Falcon. At least I've heard these track somewhat alright. I've made the mistake of buying crap in the past, and it led to nothing but frustration. I'm not trying to knock your review because it was honest, and it did point out that they aren't good scopes, but at least you didn't pay much for it.
 
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Just to clarify, I'm not endorsing the scope, and I'm certainly not trying to speak for the manufacturer. I just thought I'd post my experience with the scope. I can only speak for the one I've been testing, others may be better or worse. For what it's worth, I put off posting this review for a long time because I suspected I'd get pummelled. In the end, though, I thought someone might be interested in reading my impressions from actually using the product.
 
Re: Confessions of an Osprey user

a usefull,well presented analysis which presents just what it proports to.
 
Re: Confessions of an Osprey user

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: hrfunk</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Just to clarify, I'm not endorsing the scope, and I'm certainly not trying to speak for the manufacturer. I just thought I'd post my experience with the scope. I can only speak for the one I've been testing, others may be better or worse. For what it's worth, I put off posting this review for a long time because I suspected I'd get pummelled. In the end, though, I thought someone might be interested in reading my impressions from actually using the product. </div></div>


Thanks for taking the time.

It beats the usual, "don't buy xx scope, it's junk", with nothing more to follow; as you gave actual experiences why it's not that great.
 
Re: Confessions of an Osprey user

I had to open the thread just for the title alone. Every year I state the LO oft-repeated mantra, avoid any riflescopes named after birds of prey. This advice has served us and our customers well.

Such brands seem to want to channel the predatory razor-sharp vision of the Accipitridae, but usually perform like a representative of the Meleagridinae sub-family, and need to go the way of the Raphinae sub-family.

Thus endeth the ornithology lesson.

If I was abducted and subjected to waterboarding, I confess the once piece of info I would likely give up is the safest choice among the raptors would be named Hawk(e).

Scott
 
Re: Confessions of an Osprey user

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: LibertyOptics</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Every year I state the LO oft-repeated mantra, avoid any riflescopes named after birds of prey. This advice has served us and our customers well. </div></div>

So you're saying that my plan to start an optics company called Eagle Hawk & Vulture, might be ill-advised?