Re: CouldWar w/ Iran be Bloodiest Conflict Since WWII?
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Alaskaman 11</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Finris</div><div class="ubbcode-body">China is the recipient of most of the oil coming out of Iran. The Shehab missile that Iran has developed was sold to them by North Korea ie China evil brother. If Israel is stalled by the US and or Europe Iran will gain a bomb they already have enough material for one. The Iranians are waiting until they have enough material for at least 5 before they try to put them together. Iran has suicide boats and subs, and they are all enough to sink a US carrier. <span style="color: #FFFF33">[/color]Iran has F15's granted older ones but still.[color:#FFFF00]</span>
China does have a 5 million man standing army. China has launched 1 or 2 aircraft carriers this last year of their own design all be it with some Russian influence. China has just come out with their version of the <span style="color: #FFFF00">[/color]F35 stealth fighter..[color:#FFFF00]</span>..The really big picture that most people do not wish to see or just don't is look at the population in China they have well over a Billion people in their country and counting. How do you get rid of excess population? Well most countries like Switzerland sent their young men off to be mercenaries due too not being able to feed the population. Egypt right next door to Israel is in the Same boat as China way too many people and not enough food,jobs and or excetera. Most in Israel know they can deal a decisive blow to Iran's program with out a problem. The real problem becomes its neighbors and or what will the Russians and Chinese do when a boat load of their scientists get killed in the attack. The chest master knows the last move before he makes his first move on the chest board. </div></div>
Wrong, they have F14s, and they don't ave the goodies to go with them.
Proof, on the F35. I saw a pic of somthing.
No matter how you cut it, China is a second rate military heavily influenced by Soviet doctrine. Good thing we have been studying it for 50 years. As for Iran, no way in hell are the going to get into a toe to toe conventional fight with the US, Desert Storm and OFI 1 has set te stage for no one in the near future going after us in that way. People watched us schwack the Iraqis twice in short order, they ain't stupid. </div></div>
China is able and willing to invade Taiwan while we are fully occupied with Iran and Afghanistan, as well as exercise what it thinks are it's "historical rights" to the whole South China Sea as far down as Indonesia. They even want the island chain thatincludes Okinawa, because like 200 years ago there were some Chinese there.
Whileour much reduced Pacific Fleet is occupied in the I.O., and the limited number of Marines in the Pacific are deployed to the Invasion of Iran, the Chinese will act.They very well may ally themselves with Pakistan against us.
China is raising hell because we are considering putting a Brigade of Marines in Bumfuck Australia,because they feel even that is in their Zone of Influence. The Phillipines bases are long gone, Oki and japan much reuced, so the best response we can produce a very limited number of Marines and Soldiers from Guam or Hawaii, and Oki.North Korea may very well take advantage of our preoccupation to invade South Korea.
Once China and North Korea are in Taiwan and the South there will be little we can do about it, except nukes and wailing.
Russia would love to see that, and will do everything possible to support Iran with sophisticated weapons and crews.
MADdoesn't work with Iran. They don't fear being vaporized, because the world wide conflict and death created will bring their 10 year old last Mahdi, who was murdered a thousand years ago,levitating out of a well in Qum to lead Shiite Islam to glorious and bloody victory against the Jews and Infidels. The Iranian leadership welcomes mass murder and nuclear conflict.
I doubt Iran could make a missile capable of launching a nuke at Israe. Most likely it would land in the Med, causing coastal flooding,or in the West Bank. That is if it isn't shot down by one of our Star Wars systems.
But they might be able to hit,or deliver by surface or aircraft, nukes against the Gulf States that we are using for bases.
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