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Couple questions about adjustable McMillan stocks

Black-X

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I have a Savage 110 in 300wm that is a hammer but I've noticed a couple of things about the McMillan A5 stock that it sits in that I'm curious about.

First, is there a fix for the adjustable cheekpiece screws that loosen up after a few shots? I tried to file the ends flat like someone on here said he did but it didn't help this stock. 2-3 shots and they're loose again.

Second, is the whole adjustable cheekpiece supposed to "wiggle" (the entire assembly inside of the buttpiece in/on the stock)?

No, I haven't called McMillan. No, I'm not trash talking McMillan. Just a couple of questions I wanted to see if any other McMillan users knew the answer to.

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Re: Couple questions about adjustable McMillan stocks

Easiest way would be to call Mcm. Sorry I can't help you I'm too much of a pussy to shoot one of thoes lol
 
Re: Couple questions about adjustable McMillan stocks

My cheek piece is quite solid. I do not really notice a wiggle. AND my screws do seem to stay tight just fine. The rifle is a hospitaller, so unless GAP does some voodoo on the stock back there, then I say you should get that checked out.

I think that would drive me bonkers...
 
Re: Couple questions about adjustable McMillan stocks

Few quick fixes for the screws would be some blue loc-tite on them unless you need to back them out often. Or you could use a small/thin crush washer. That should keep from backing out. Can't speak for the wiggle.. but I'm sure McMillan will make anything right.
 
Re: Couple questions about adjustable McMillan stocks

I have the Terry Cross hardware in mine and don't have any problems at all.
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I have seen Black-X's stock first hand. It seems like the epoxy or whatever is holding the hardware in has broken/come loose.
 
Re: Couple questions about adjustable McMillan stocks

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Heat</div><div class="ubbcode-body">I have the Terry Cross hardware in mine and don't have any problems at all.
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I have seen Black-X's stock first hand. It seems like the epoxy or whatever is holding the hardware in has broken/come loose. </div></div>

If it's broken Mcmillan will fix it. Don't know if you will have to pay for it hopefully not, but better then having to screw it ever 3 shots.
 
Re: Couple questions about adjustable McMillan stocks

Terry's hardware would be the fix for the screw backing out, although I might try a crush washer too.

And, no, it shouldnt wiggle.
 
Re: Couple questions about adjustable McMillan stocks

Thanks fellers, guess a call to McMillan is in order then. I figured someone else would have experienced the same things and had some input.

-X
 
Re: Couple questions about adjustable McMillan stocks

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: ShootToWin</div><div class="ubbcode-body">What model of adjustable cheek piece to you own? </div></div>

The two thumbscrew model, not the KMW.

-X
 
Re: Couple questions about adjustable McMillan stocks

Had the same problem with my A5 I got two years ago. Easy to fix. Unscrew the thumbwheel and remove the cheekrest. Slide out the thumbwheel. Inside you'll see two screwheads. Tighten those till snug. You will likely have a problem with the cheekrest 'sliding' to the side of it's mount. Remove the rest, loosen the screws visible from the top of the rest. Then slide the bracket underneath to center the rest. Tighten the screws till snug and reinstall. The thumbwheel screws should stop loosening after having fired the rifle some.
 
Re: Couple questions about adjustable McMillan stocks

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: pwc001</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Devcon it in, all mine have done the same thing. Put a layer of Devcon under the Aluminum block and you will never have to worry about it again. </div></div>

lol, I didn't get to the second sentence and I thought you were telling me to devcon in the cheekpiece screws. That would keep them in for sure.
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Re: Couple questions about adjustable McMillan stocks

First, let me say that we will fix this for you if you like. Standard warrentee procedure, you send it in to us and we fix it for free and pay the freight back.
Second, let me tell you how we figured out the problem and fixed it. Originally the thumbwheel adjuster was designed for the people using iron sight competition guns that needed very fine cheekpiece adjustments at every range change as they moved their micrometer rear sights up and down. These guns were heavy guns usually in .308 and .223 and we never had any problems.
To install them we drilled two undersized holes in the stock and glued and screwed two little pot metal threaded anchors into the stock and the thumbwheel block was attached to these anchors with two screws.
Then a couple of years ago people started having problems with them shooting loose, usually the metal anchors were working loose in the stock and then the screws would work loose. For a while we fixed them by re-gluing the anchors in, usually worked OK except sometimes it would happen again. Soon we were all getting frustrated with this so I took another look at the system. Set on on my desk and just stared at it for a couple of days trying to figure out "why". Used some x-ray vision (?) and mentally put some strain guages and accelerometers here and there and tried to understand what was happening. Finally it dawned on me. The thumbwheel block, wheel and cheekpiece has mass, and the recoil of the shot has to get it moving backwards with the rest of the rifle. And all the thrust of the recoil was 100% on those two little anchors under the thumbwheel block. If the rifle has a muzzlebrake on it then when the gases hit the vanes on the brake all the thrust to stop the recoil was again applied just to those two anchors. This back and forth force pushing on these two anchors was slowly crushing the softer lighter fill we use in the butts for weight distribution and the anchors were working loose. Bingo, now we know how to fix the problem. First, we put the anchors in a different wsy, we drill the holes oversize so the threads don's crush any of the soft fill as they screw in, fill the hole with activated epoxy resin, put a little piece of tape over the hole in the bottom of the anchor and sit them in place until the epoxy has cured. Now the anchors are in a solid cylinder of very hard resin. Now the main problem, there is a little gap between the front of the thumbwheel block and the front and back of the stock. I think this was just for ease of assembly so we changed the inletting to let the front of the block touch against the main buttstock. Now we put a dab of marine tex here and push the block forward to firm contact and screw it down. Then we fill the gap behind the block with a thick epoxy putty. Now the block itself is tight against both the front of the stock and the back of the stock and the forces to get it moving back and forth under recoil is applied directly to the block and not just to the two little screws and anchors.
We have been installing them this way for over a year now and have ( to the best of my knowledge) never had even one work loose. If you want to fix your own it's simple, take the thumbwheel block out of the stock and check the anchors. If they seem a bit loose just screw them out and reglue them into place.
Now get some of that epoxy putty paste at your local hardware store, the kind that comes in a little light gray strip and a dark gray strip, mix them together well and fill the gap at the front of the block and rear of the block solid with this putty.
Don't use a liquid type and pour it in as it will run under the block and down into the cheekpiece post holes. This seems to be a final permanant fix and they will not work loose again.
Again, we will be happy to fix these older installations for free if you will get them to us.
Sorry about the long post.
Dick at McMillans
 
Re: Couple questions about adjustable McMillan stocks

Thanks Dick, I may send the stock in for a fix on the cheekpiece assembly.

So there isn't a McMillan fix for the 2 thumbscrews backing out after a couple of shots. Any members find a permanent fix for this?