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COWARDICE

Maybe Evil face saving to prevent the burn. Monday morning the FBI could issue a report saying nothing to see here all is well. Evil saves face Civil war prevented and the Evil Decimated in Nov.

Could be Win Win. But don't hold your breath.
 
Neville Chamberlain would roll over in his grave.
The turds have spread out the evil responsibility so there is no one face to mobilize against.
History repeats itself in a curious twist.

Thinking conservatives see liberal Democrats as dangerous as A.H.... en masse. And the liberal follower rallies look just like Munich rallies from then.

And the sheep followers obviously have bought in, as evidenced by the rantings of two former ........
And the level of educational ignorance being taught today has recently been evidenced by things posted this date.
It's going to be a really long 8 seconds..
 
I am ashamed for my state.

Recall Flake; he's a craven coward! Recall! Recall! Recall!

Under Article 8 of the Arizona Constitution, a recall election can be held with enough Arizona voters signing a petition to have it by at least 25% of the voters in the last election.

I don't know what he's expecting to come home to... If he does not resign right now, I'm in for the recall.

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And, where was security? A US Senator was being detained against his will and harassed by raving political activists. What are they running there, a free for all?

There needs to be firings in the Capital Police. Their failure to protect a US Senator from blatant harassment has changed the course of history. I think somebody got paid off.

Matthew Verderosa, Chief of Capital Police, I want his termination.

Those 'poor victims' sure looked like trained attack dogs to me. Somebody let them in deliberately.

Greg
 
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This entire process has degenerated into a decaying food fight.

If this is how our elected leaders choose as their best course to conduct the people's business, then the electoral process is guaranteed to achieve nothing but chaos from this point forward. I will vote, but I will not have any faith in the 'winners'.

We Arizona voters were presented with shit sandwiches in either hand when forced to vote on McCain and Flake. The only other choices were Pelosi clone sob sisters, one of whom literally turned her back and fled when questioned in public on her voting records. The current campaign is so obfuscated behind layer after layer of mud that the only choice is to forget about the candidates and vote the party. One hopes for the best, and hope is not a valid strategy., But under the law, there is no better course.

The Republicans have always had the better platforms, and always fielded the worst people; Nixon, for example. Now, no party has my loyalty, they all suck.

I think that soon, all this will be moot, seen as vague shapes fading back in the rear view.

Civil war is a certainty.

Greg
 
Well Arizona sure knows how to send RINOs and Deep state people to the Senate.
Both McStain and Flake hail from that state.....

I doesn't give me good feelings about the state and the voters there.......
This occured to me yesterday. Arizona needs to check their water supply......freakin Flake just validated every slimey dirty tactic of these Marxist leftist Democrats.
 
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This occured to me yesterday. Arizona needs to check their water supply......freakin Flake just validated every slimey dirty tactic of these Marxist leftist Democrats.

I said it two days ago, yesterday and today. If I am wrong, I will gladly admit it.

Kavanaugh is done...he will never get in.

I was sent some stuff by a friend...can't substantiate it. Maybe I need a thicker tinfoil hat but...

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I said it two days ago, yesterday and today. If I am wrong, I will gladly admit it.

Kavanaugh is done...he will never get in.

I was sent some stuff by a friend...can't substantiate it. Maybe I need a thicker tinfoil hat but...

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Flake is done. He is not running again so he doesn’t care. Keep an eye on what private sector job he ends up at. A backdoor deal was made ......
 
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AND THIS IS NOT POINTED AT THE TWO POSTERS !!!!!
The possessor of silver and gold for currency and trade in a conflict must of necessity be armed to keep it,
for if that person has the trade goods others need for survival, and expects to trade said goods for silver and gold, then of greater necessity must be armed to keep those survival goods.
And when needing sleep, needs trusted armed guards to guard them, the silver/gold, and survival goods, because all it takes is one shot to the head and the shooter takes silver/gold, survival goods, and the deceaseds' arms and moves on.

The only time precious metals count is when the authority that establishes order after the conflict, gives a monetary or trade value to those metals.

In a real shitstorm, afterwards, iron to make tools is more valuable than soft precious metals.

Too many people buy into "there will be some governmental authority" that gives precious metals a value.

A rock you can beat an attacker off with is much more valuable than a gold bar not big enough to pop the attackers pimple...

Moving on...
 
Too many people buy into "there will be some governmental authority" that gives precious metals a value.

History shows pretty conclusively that no matter how bad things get, eventually after enough people have died the survivors or conquerors tend to build a new society, with laws and order and an established system of trade and barter and usually some form of organization or government... or they all die out and it doesn't matter if they ever were. Most recorded societies over the past 5000 years assigned value to rare metals/stones/rocks etc. that were not widespread.

The issue is that it may be a significant amount of time before your precious metals are of value to you in trade. Possibly longer if the "rulers" decide all the precious metals are for them only so they can pay for their stuff (as was the case in our country for many decades).
 
In perhaps a BMA thread of it's own, some additional BM would include a couple of pairs of solid boots (not Nike made in China)(or anything with a 6 month wear out date), some hardy clothing, not rei bullshit or the current military wear out in 6 months junk, a good backpack, a really good working knife, and a really good hatchet.....
Too much ammo and not the above, might cause a small problem.... :- )
But by all means, bma. And have a good tool kit in the trunk with claw hammer, hatchet, and carpet knife... :- )
 
Saw some state senator in Washington is now being accused of rape years after the fact. Of course he is Republican.

The Republicans are going to face a full week of people coming out of the wood work with repressed memories.

When this is all said and done Harvey Weinstein and Asia argento are going to be the rehabilitated heroes of "La Revolucion" playing a tactical role to advance a strategic goal.
 
I plan to survive long enough to TCB anything longer than that you will be on the losing side. You wont be motivated enough to do what needs doing if you are sitting on tons of gold and stockpiles of food that nails you in place and makess you automatically on the defense.

@W54,
Yes, you just have to survive long enough for that metal to be of value, historically. So true.
 
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AND THIS IS NOT POINTED AT THE TWO POSTERS !!!!!
The possessor of silver and gold for currency and trade in a conflict must of necessity be armed to keep it,
for if that person has the trade goods others need for survival, and expects to trade said goods for silver and gold, then of greater necessity must be armed to keep those survival goods.
And when needing sleep, needs trusted armed guards to guard them, the silver/gold, and survival goods, because all it takes is one shot to the head and the shooter takes silver/gold, survival goods, and the deceaseds' arms and moves on.

The only time precious metals count is when the authority that establishes order after the conflict, gives a monetary or trade value to those metals.

In a real shitstorm, afterwards, iron to make tools is more valuable than soft precious metals.

Too many people buy into "there will be some governmental authority" that gives precious metals a value.

A rock you can beat an attacker off with is much more valuable than a gold bar not big enough to pop the attackers pimple...

Moving on...

You seem to forget the mato:
You don't bring a rock to a gun fight!
Thus copper, lead, brass.
The only precious metals I need.
 
I made the decision long ago that ammunition was a wiser thing to turn paper money into than precious metals.

If nothing happens, it will still increase in value over time. It certainly isn’t going to get cheaper. And at some point, the commies will go after online sales, supply chains, etc and it will be largely unavailable. It wasn’t long ago the BATFE decided they would treat gunpowder as an explosive which would have had dire ramifications. They shelved the idea before it took effect after everyone went apeshit. Remember that? Writing on the wall.

Civil war, celestial or man made events blowing the grid, infrastructural breakdown, whathaveyou...buy more ammo.
 
Barring an event that puts us back in the Stone age, gold and silver are materials with plenty of industrial applications that drive the price much more than jewelry does.

You should never not have ammo but after a certain point of stockpiling for a personal supply and potential SHTF bartering, it makes sense to Branch out in to other commodities that are a bit more liquid.

Like more conventional investments, you should try to balance your portfolio.
 
Sound advice. If gold and silver prices weren’t so crazily inflated I would likely acquire a good bit, of for no other reason than for my wealth to survive devaluation of US currency, which I see as a real possible outcome of Trump’s trade ‘war’ with China.

But imo, if we’re in a situation that sees currency and credit suspended, goods like ammo, food, clothes, boots etc will be more liquid than gold/silver. I believe ammunition will be the new currency in a situation like that.

And Army Jerry will be Goldman Sachs lol.
 
Sound advice. If gold and silver prices weren’t so crazily inflated I would likely acquire a good bit, of for no other reason than for my wealth to survive devaluation of US currency, which I see as a real possible outcome of Trump’s trade ‘war’ with China.

But imo, if we’re in a situation that sees currency and credit suspended, goods like ammo, food, clothes, boots etc will be more liquid than gold/silver. I believe ammunition will be the new currency in a situation like that.

And Army Jerry will be Goldman Sachs lol.

You should always have a diversified portfolio of commodities...
  1. Gold and silver are a critical part of it. Precious metals have always played a part in barter and it is no different today
  2. Ammo AND, maybe more importantly, spare parts for weapons
  3. Liquor & Cigarettes
  4. The other usual stuff - food, clothes, etc.
 
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Re the two above posts:
AND THIS IS NOT POINTED AT THE TWO POSTERS !!!!!
The possessor of silver and gold for currency and trade in a conflict must of necessity be armed to keep it,
for if that person has the trade goods others need for survival, and expects to trade said goods for silver and gold, then of greater necessity must be armed to keep those survival goods.
And when needing sleep, needs trusted armed guards to guard them, the silver/gold, and survival goods, because all it takes is one shot to the head and the shooter takes silver/gold, survival goods, and the deceaseds' arms and moves on.

The only time precious metals count is when the authority that establishes order after the conflict, gives a monetary or trade value to those metals.

In a real shitstorm, afterwards, iron to make tools is more valuable than soft precious metals.

Too many people buy into "there will be some governmental authority" that gives precious metals a value.

A rock you can beat an attacker off with is much more valuable than a gold bar not big enough to pop the attackers pimple...

Moving on...


The precious metals I was referring to were lead, copper, and brass. Jokes man, Jokes...:ROFLMAO:
 
Sound advice. If gold and silver prices weren’t so crazily inflated I would likely acquire a good bit, of for no other reason than for my wealth to survive devaluation of US currency, which I see as a real possible outcome of Trump’s trade ‘war’ with China.

I'd actually suggest the opposite is currently true. The real price of Gold and Silver are artificially suppressed by the huge amount of "paper" gold and silver, which trades just like money... and while people say it's held somewhere... everybody knows it's not really there... Pretty much "fractional reserve". You'll find that out if you decide to want to take delivery of a really big block of gold or silver, it takes forever to get together & ship for you.
Now if the "Paper" was to disappear or all get called in, the value of physical gold / silver would be much higher.
But just about everybody trades "paper" gold & silver except for the few nutcases that want the actual metals in their hands... like us...
There is even talk that a lot of the big bullion bars that central banks have are actually fakes, but the agreement is that everybody agrees not to inspect and to take it at face value and everybody else will then take theirs at face value since it's just to provide a balanced equation on an agreed spreadsheet arrangement of credit and collateral.

It is a good hedge against hyper inflation to a certain point, but not great as a hedge against inflation, as the price is manipulated through "paper gold" and "paper silver" to keep it in check, so it's kind of like any other commodity right now. Nice to have, but as an actual long term investment, physical gold/silver is performing about the same as leaving your cash in the bank.

I plan to survive long enough to TCB anything longer than that you will be on the losing side. You wont be motivated enough to do what needs doing if you are sitting on tons of gold and stockpiles of food that nails you in place and makess you automatically on the defense.

Very true.. however in the case of Gold / Silver etc., you can easily hide it / bury it somewhere and if you do it right, it might stay hidden for the next 1000 years if something happens to you. But if you live through the days of slaughter and are part of the rebuilding of society, then you'll have a bit of something for your old age or to pass on to your kids.

On the food, you might have some stuff stockpiled for your family for while you are out TCB for a couple months or so. It may take longer than a month or two to TCB, especially if as the traitors see that they are about to be killed, they beg a bunch of Blue helmet targets, / contractors / foreign mercs / EU types to come save them, or China tries to make a play for west coast assets, Mexico decides they want more territory to ruin etc., so you may have to spend a whole winter or longer dishing out that ammo at a rapid rate to all comers who want some. (I'm betting in Texas we will be putting a huge amount of our ammo to use down south as the Mexicans / Cartels try to invade).
 
The other nutcases that want the metal in their hand are the electronics companies, optics companies, dentists and Jewelers. They seem to get theirs so I'm not sure your value suppression theory is really valid.

The reserve brick thing might be true.

I know there is no reason not to hold your own gold in a safe or at least a private safety deposit box (if you can find one).
 
I'd actually suggest the opposite is currently true. The real price of Gold and Silver are artificially suppressed by the huge amount of "paper" gold and silver, which trades just like money... and while people say it's held somewhere... everybody knows it's not really there... Pretty much "fractional reserve". You'll find that out if you decide to want to take delivery of a really big block of gold or silver, it takes forever to get together & ship for you.
Now if the "Paper" was to disappear or all get called in, the value of physical gold / silver would be much higher.
But just about everybody trades "paper" gold & silver except for the few nutcases that want the actual metals in their hands... like us...
There is even talk that a lot of the big bullion bars that central banks have are actually fakes, but the agreement is that everybody agrees not to inspect and to take it at face value and everybody else will then take theirs at face value since it's just to provide a balanced equation on an agreed spreadsheet arrangement of credit and collateral.

It is a good hedge against hyper inflation to a certain point, but not great as a hedge against inflation, as the price is manipulated through "paper gold" and "paper silver" to keep it in check, so it's kind of like any other commodity right now. Nice to have, but as an actual long term investment, physical gold/silver is performing about the same as leaving your cash in the bank.

An interesting idea for spot/futures to trade in backwardation as the curve for metals should generally be in contango to account for storage and interst rates vs future delivery. Almost makes me want to go buy some time spreads ahead of the Nov elections for shits and giggles in case AJ gets on the trigger. One thing that I think can be counted on for gold outright is that if the Evils do come out on top (just through up in mouth a little as I typed that), equities and the dollar will almost certainly shit the bed, taking commodity prices higher.
 
An interesting idea for spot/futures to trade in backwardation as the curve for metals should generally be in contango to account for storage and interst rates vs future delivery. Almost makes me want to go buy some time spreads ahead of the Nov elections for shits and giggles in case AJ gets on the trigger. One thing that I think can be counted on for gold outright is that if the Evils do come out on top (just through up in mouth a little as I typed that), equities and the dollar will almost certainly shit the bed, taking commodity prices higher.
What do you mean? They are in contango across the board. You wouldn’t see backwardation in metals unless silver went on a 50% tear.

As another note to respond to w54’s post above, yes, the metals are artificially tamed. It is conjecture, but I am fairly certain that some clandestine entity under guidance of the federal reserve has a blank check to knock the prices down when they heat up. You can see it in the price action. Major short positions that just keep getting added to
 
What do you mean? They are in contango across the board. You wouldn’t see backwardation in metals unless silver went on a 50% tear.

As another note to respond to w54’s post above, yes, the metals are artificially tamed. It is conjecture, but I am fairly certain that some clandestine entity under guidance of the federal reserve has a blank check to knock the prices down when they heat up. You can see it in the price action. Major short positions that just keep getting added to

Yes, spreads are all currently in contango...as they should be. My comment was based on the notion that physical gold would command a premium if suddenly all the futures longs took it to cash without the intention of redelivering in the future...eg, it gets pulled from the system so carry economics cease to be relevant. A black swan event.
 
Yes, spreads are all currently in contango...as they should be. My comment was based on the notion that physical gold would command a premium if suddenly all the futures longs took it to cash without the intention of redelivering in the future...eg, it gets pulled from the system so carry economics cease to be relevant. A black swan event.
This is a very small probability event, as it is heavily manipulated. The exchange would just shut down the buy side of the market just like they did around ‘81 in silver.
 
You know they say Gold is worth exactly what always has been worth. It just that the money that buys it is worth so much less. Unless Gold is synthesized it will always have value. It has, since the first piece was found.
 
Yes, spreads are all currently in contango...as they should be. My comment was based on the notion that physical gold would command a premium if suddenly all the futures longs took it to cash without the intention of redelivering in the future...eg, it gets pulled from the system so carry economics cease to be relevant. A black swan event.
Also, there is no way they would be able to deliver even half of the open interest in metals
 
Also, there is no way they would be able to deliver even half of the open interest in metals

Not arguing your points, this is why I referenced a black swan event. No sense in going round and round in circles on this. Was a simple comment on a thought that was provoked by W54's post in a wouldn't it be funny if sort of scenario.