Looking for help deciding on a scope for my 25 creed build. I’d like something that has a reticle good for long range shooting as well as hunting. Currently have an Optika 6 on my 6.5 prc 3-18x56 mrad. Loving it so far but when I look for that scopes big brother 5-30 Mrad I can’t find it in stock anywhere. My ultimate goal is to stretch my 25 to 1 mile so I was sure if a 3-18 would be enough scope. Any advice would be appreciated. Thanks.
Rifle Scopes Crossover Scope
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In for advice as well. I have a 6.5 creedmoor build in the works that will primarily be used for hunting but given the price of my build I want to stretch it's legs every now and then on the range. I wish Bushnell did not discontinue to LRHS as the scope is amazing for such intended use. I am currently debating either the Vortex Razor HD LHT from Liberty Optics and the Steiner P4XI from Cameraland. Recognizing that one is SFP which is better for hunting and the other is FFP. Leaning towards the Steiner as I hear the glass is amazing.
What makes a good crossover scope is going to be different for everyone. I prefer FFP scopes for hunting and for long range shooting but I am not a fan of "thin" reticles that some competition oriented reticles have. A bigger factor would be your price point, since you mention the Optika 6 is it safe to assume you're looking in the $500 - $1000 ish bracket? Is weight a concern for you and if so what is your weight limit?
And by the way a 3-18 should be fine for shooting a mile. Atmospherics at long range wreck havoc on high magnification so doubtful you'd be using much more than 18x anyway, but what does matter is how good the glass is, that might be the reason you would look to upgrade.
And by the way a 3-18 should be fine for shooting a mile. Atmospherics at long range wreck havoc on high magnification so doubtful you'd be using much more than 18x anyway, but what does matter is how good the glass is, that might be the reason you would look to upgrade.
Yea I’m really wanting to transition to all FFP but the reticle
Id like you try the keep it under $1500 but might could bump it up a little more. I’ve also been thinking in a NX8 2.5 or 4 in mils.
If you can squeeze a bit more there are few better scopes for this category than the Vortex AMG 6-24x50. Completely sourced and made in the USA, reticle alone is outsourced. Price can often be found below $2k new and some good deals if you watch the classifieds. I am not a fan of the NX8 2.5-20, just too many compromises in the ultra short design with high mag erector, word has it the 4-32 doesn’t suffer nearly the symptoms the 2.5-20 has and I hope to get my hands on one in the near future for a review.
Thanks for the suggestions. My main concern with the AMG is the 6 base magnification. In the past on my second focal plane scopes too much mag and short distances have hurt me. I’m not sure if it would be the same with a FFP or not. I’m going to try to a lowlight comparison of my Optika 6 3-18x56 Mrad and my leupold vx5 hd 3-15x56.
I would recommend doing the low light test, set both scopes to 12x and observe details in the bushes and other shadow and high contrast areas after the sun goes down, if possible try and get both scopes side by side so you can look back and forth between both. Years ago I found there was quite a bit of separation with regard to low light performance, but in recent years the manufacturers have really stepped up their game and improved low light performance even in the "cheaper" lines. I'd be curious how the Optika 6 holds up against the Leupold so please share your results.
Yes, the AMG does not have the greatest low end magnification but it does have very impressive FOV numbers (better than some scopes at 5x), similar to your Leupold 3-15, if you look at the FOV compared to the Optika 6 you'll find the Leupold has considerably more FOV especially at the lower end. Scopes with greater FOV allow you to see more at a given magnification which is a benefit.
Yea I have spend minimal time behind the Optika 6 but I’ve like it so far. For the price I haven’t found a thing to complain about. Spent lots of time with the leupold and it’s been good to me for hunting. I feel like it does pretty good in low light but have never compared it to another one of my scopes. So I’m going to try to do a little comparison this coming Saturday morning or either late afternoon. Here in South Carolina legal shooting for deer is a hour prior to sunrise and hour after sunset. So you have plenty of time if you have a scope that can give you a good enough picture.
We are running the Bushnell LRTS 4.5-18x44's on special (call for pricing, 516-217-1000) which would be a great options
I had a 4.5-27 on a rifle I used for hunting and on occasion found myself wishing for a lower power glass. I called Doug Cameraland and got a 3.5-21 that I think will suit me perfectly. I find I have an easier time shooting past 1000 with higher quality glass vs higher magnification.
You need to decide what specs/features are most important to you and what you can compromise on.
The VX5hd and AMG are both good crossover scopes but at different ends of the spectrum.
Whilst you can achieve shooting at a mile and hunting with the same scope, what ever of those is more important to you dictates which direction to look for scopes. Also hunting means different thing to different people, example; will your hunting be predominately from 0-200yards or 100-400yards?
wjm is correct in saying FOV specs are more important that magnification, but if you need 3x on the low end obviously the AMG is not right for you.
Deciding on a magnification range (or atleast minimum magnifcation/FOV requirements), FFP vs SFP, Mil vs MOA and other features will lead you to your final destination.
