Custom Dies
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Re: Custom Dies
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Call Dave
CH4D
Mailing: P.O. Box 889
Shipping: 711 N. Sandusky St.
Mt. Vernon, OH 43050
U.S.A
Phone: 740-397-7214 Fax: 740-397-6600
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Dave Davison: [email protected]
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Re: Custom Dies
I had one custom made by Forster and it didnt cost much either. Great communication and follow up. Give them a call.
I had one custom made by Forster and it didnt cost much either. Great communication and follow up. Give them a call.
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I have a set made by Neil Jones out in Pa. Look up neil jones custom products.
I don't know how well they work because I can seem to get my rifle back from the smith.
I have a set made by Neil Jones out in Pa. Look up neil jones custom products.
I don't know how well they work because I can seem to get my rifle back from the smith.
Re: Custom Dies
I've been told having your dies set closer to your chamber specs than saami will improve case life, as well as maintaining the accuracy of the fire formed brass. I've been neck sizing my brass and found that after 4 or so loads it's not chambering right. Theres other ways to address this but
custom dies seemed a little less time consuming than any other solution I've heard of.
I've been told having your dies set closer to your chamber specs than saami will improve case life, as well as maintaining the accuracy of the fire formed brass. I've been neck sizing my brass and found that after 4 or so loads it's not chambering right. Theres other ways to address this but
custom dies seemed a little less time consuming than any other solution I've heard of.
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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: SlowBolt</div><div class="ubbcode-body">I've been told having your dies set closer to your chamber specs than saami will improve case life, as well as maintaining the accuracy of the fire formed brass. I've been neck sizing my brass and found that after 4 or so loads it's not chambering right. Theres other ways to address this but
custom dies seemed a little less time consuming than any other solution I've heard of. </div></div>
You could also try a bump die
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: SlowBolt</div><div class="ubbcode-body">I've been told having your dies set closer to your chamber specs than saami will improve case life, as well as maintaining the accuracy of the fire formed brass. I've been neck sizing my brass and found that after 4 or so loads it's not chambering right. Theres other ways to address this but
custom dies seemed a little less time consuming than any other solution I've heard of. </div></div>
You could also try a bump die
Re: Custom Dies
Thats a new one on me, I've been on the phone with Forster today and that's what they're suggesting as well. I'm waiting for a call back from n.jones and CH4D, I think its going to come down to convenience and pricing. Thank you to you and the others who took time to offer help on this.
Thats a new one on me, I've been on the phone with Forster today and that's what they're suggesting as well. I'm waiting for a call back from n.jones and CH4D, I think its going to come down to convenience and pricing. Thank you to you and the others who took time to offer help on this.
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How does $100 and 2-3 weeks turn around.
Buy a Redding 300 win mag body bump die $25
Go to 6mmbr.com, look in TOOLS and get the address for Jim Carstenson at JLC Precision. The email, phone are accurate. Cost is not the $30 listed from 6 years ago.
http://www.6mmbr.com/catalog/item/1433308/892435.htm
Send him the body die, $80 and ten cases fired 2-3x.
2-3 weeks back to you, you will have a perfectly fitted custom honed, FL bushing die that matches your chamber perfectly.
I have 3-5 of his dies and they match the Neil Jones dies which are $350 up (have 3 sets of them too)
BH
How does $100 and 2-3 weeks turn around.
Buy a Redding 300 win mag body bump die $25
Go to 6mmbr.com, look in TOOLS and get the address for Jim Carstenson at JLC Precision. The email, phone are accurate. Cost is not the $30 listed from 6 years ago.
http://www.6mmbr.com/catalog/item/1433308/892435.htm
Send him the body die, $80 and ten cases fired 2-3x.
2-3 weeks back to you, you will have a perfectly fitted custom honed, FL bushing die that matches your chamber perfectly.
I have 3-5 of his dies and they match the Neil Jones dies which are $350 up (have 3 sets of them too)
BH
Re: Custom Dies
If you have had a barrel made, ask the smith to make you a die with the same reamer that he did your barrel with. If you have a factory barrel, I can"t see why a custom die will do you any more good than a neck sizer.
If you have had a barrel made, ask the smith to make you a die with the same reamer that he did your barrel with. If you have a factory barrel, I can"t see why a custom die will do you any more good than a neck sizer.
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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: BBeyer</div><div class="ubbcode-body">If you have had a barrel made, ask the smith to make you a die with the same reamer that he did your barrel with. If you have a factory barrel, I can"t see why a custom die will do you any more good than a neck sizer. </div></div>
A sizing die made with a chamber reamer is a total waste of money!
It will not size anything other than the neck in reality. A die blank costs $60, cost of chambering and then heat treating for a simple neck size die is a waste for that.
Size dies are chambered with a resize reamer which is slightly smaller than the chamber reamer.
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: BBeyer</div><div class="ubbcode-body">If you have had a barrel made, ask the smith to make you a die with the same reamer that he did your barrel with. If you have a factory barrel, I can"t see why a custom die will do you any more good than a neck sizer. </div></div>
A sizing die made with a chamber reamer is a total waste of money!
It will not size anything other than the neck in reality. A die blank costs $60, cost of chambering and then heat treating for a simple neck size die is a waste for that.
Size dies are chambered with a resize reamer which is slightly smaller than the chamber reamer.
Re: Custom Dies
I have custom dies from both Warner and Neil Jones. Both are worth every dime you spend.
You need to send both of them: at least 3 or 4 fired cases and at least one dummy round with the projectile seated to your intended starting seating spot.
JeffVN
I have custom dies from both Warner and Neil Jones. Both are worth every dime you spend.
You need to send both of them: at least 3 or 4 fired cases and at least one dummy round with the projectile seated to your intended starting seating spot.
JeffVN
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I think having the seating die custom made is more important than having the sizing die custom made.
I think having the seating die custom made is more important than having the sizing die custom made.
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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: targaflorio</div><div class="ubbcode-body">I think having the seating die custom made is more important than having the sizing die custom made. </div></div>
Well if your brass is non concentric after sizing no seating die in the world will make concentric ammo, both or nothing.
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: targaflorio</div><div class="ubbcode-body">I think having the seating die custom made is more important than having the sizing die custom made. </div></div>
Well if your brass is non concentric after sizing no seating die in the world will make concentric ammo, both or nothing.
Re: Custom Dies
Bountyhunter, I do not agree with you at all on the usefulness of a chamber reamer die, but I guess that is a matter of preference. I make mine up from a Newlon blank or even a piece of barrel that has been cut off. If you use a bushing type as I do there is no need at all of any heat treating.
Bountyhunter, I do not agree with you at all on the usefulness of a chamber reamer die, but I guess that is a matter of preference. I make mine up from a Newlon blank or even a piece of barrel that has been cut off. If you use a bushing type as I do there is no need at all of any heat treating.
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I had my smith make me a few custom dies off of Newlon blanks, a body die and a bushing neck die. Making a body die or a FL die DOES require you to purchase a resize reamer based on your original finish reamer, and they cost about the same ($170-$200).
For oddball wild-cats and Imp. cases its about the only way to go.
I had my smith make me a few custom dies off of Newlon blanks, a body die and a bushing neck die. Making a body die or a FL die DOES require you to purchase a resize reamer based on your original finish reamer, and they cost about the same ($170-$200).
For oddball wild-cats and Imp. cases its about the only way to go.
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Ok stands to reason next question is.... recomendations on a set of custom chamber reamers.
Ok stands to reason next question is.... recomendations on a set of custom chamber reamers.
Re: Custom Dies
Easy one.... PTG!
Go with a tight/no turn neck. Go even a little tighter if you dont mind trueing up necks.
They have a 300WM Match that is set up for tight/no turn that I had a rifle set back and chambered with a few years ago.
Get yourself a finish reamer and a resize reamer in whatever chambering you decide. You can also make any kind of die you want (minus small base) with either of those reamers.
Easy one.... PTG!
Go with a tight/no turn neck. Go even a little tighter if you dont mind trueing up necks.
They have a 300WM Match that is set up for tight/no turn that I had a rifle set back and chambered with a few years ago.
Get yourself a finish reamer and a resize reamer in whatever chambering you decide. You can also make any kind of die you want (minus small base) with either of those reamers.
Re: Custom Dies
I have Neil Jones dies, which I recommend. I got a custom seater, which gets me the same results as my Redding competition seater, but the difference with the FL sizer was night and day in t erms of chamber fit. I have a Tac Ops, which is designed around FGMM. When I would chamber a round of FGMM, I would feel a crush fit. My handloads on Redding sizers did not feel the same. I thought maybe it was headspace or bullet jam, but after I got the Neil Jones dies, I started getting that crush fit on my handloads. Accuracy improved along with it by about a tenth of an inch at 100. For some people, the difference might not be worth it. For me, I like that slight improvement (along with less wear and tear on the brass).
My brass life is not technically improved as the primer pockets determine when I need to pitch my cases. For some, it might.
I have Neil Jones dies, which I recommend. I got a custom seater, which gets me the same results as my Redding competition seater, but the difference with the FL sizer was night and day in t erms of chamber fit. I have a Tac Ops, which is designed around FGMM. When I would chamber a round of FGMM, I would feel a crush fit. My handloads on Redding sizers did not feel the same. I thought maybe it was headspace or bullet jam, but after I got the Neil Jones dies, I started getting that crush fit on my handloads. Accuracy improved along with it by about a tenth of an inch at 100. For some people, the difference might not be worth it. For me, I like that slight improvement (along with less wear and tear on the brass).
My brass life is not technically improved as the primer pockets determine when I need to pitch my cases. For some, it might.
Re: Custom Dies
With the dies that I have made up for a 30X47 I have brass that has been fired 25 times with no f/l sizing, no sholder bump, just neck sized with a bushing.
With the dies that I have made up for a 30X47 I have brass that has been fired 25 times with no f/l sizing, no sholder bump, just neck sized with a bushing.
Re: Custom Dies
slowbolt ......
Take a look at my website, and you'll see how almost 4,000 shooters are now resizing belted calibers.
- Larry
slowbolt ......
Take a look at my website, and you'll see how almost 4,000 shooters are now resizing belted calibers.
- Larry
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