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CZ 452 22LR Observations....

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So I ordered an Integrally suppressed Left Handed CZ 452 American in 22LR from AWC System Technology. Being Left Handed and a rimfire lover, this is pretty much the perfect rifle for me. It is also the first CZ I personally owned. Below are pics of the rifle in it's current form.

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First impressions of the rifle aside from the barrel were:

Nice looking wood on the stock
Typical matte black finish on the receiver
Trigger Guard is cheaply made out of stamped steel
Trigger pull was a horrible creepy 4-5lbs
The action felt extremely gritty like there was sand in it

First things first, I mounted the temporary scope in some cheap rings I had that would work and sighted it in with Federal Bulk Box ammo. Accuracy was great. Pretty much one hole at 50 yards. Something desperately needed to be done about the trigger and the action though. So I set off to slick up the action. I had some fine grit lapping compound at my shop. I applied that to the locking lug and proceeded to work the bolt. After a few hours of working the bolt back and forth I could see and feel some progress. Shiny spots were starting to appear. I could then see one of the major problems with the cheap manufacturing process of this rifle. On the locking lug, there should have been a radius machined for a smooth transition. Instead the Czech's in their infinite wisdom machined 3 flats to save on machining costs. So I hit it with the Dremel ever so slightly and rounded it off. I then went to work with the lapping compound again for about an hour. Below are pics of the results. Plus pics of another factory bolt handle/locking lug for comparison.

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Did you notice how shiny and burr free everything was? It feels as slick as it looks.

Now some pics of a factory part...

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Did you notice the "HUGE" burr on that part and the gritty finish on everything? I can only imagine what this one feels like...

Next step was the trigger. There are a few aftermarket options available but they run anywhere from $90 to over $100 and after looking at the trigger for a few minutes, I knew I could improve on what was there. I didn't take any pics of the process but I could if people are interested.

To begin with, the factory trigger was about 4-5 lbs of weight and had about 3 miles of creep in it. First thing I did was mount the Dremel in the vise so the wheel was horizontal. I removed the trigger and using the existing angle, I ground the engagement tab down removing all but the slightest bit of sear engagement. I re-assembled to test. All the creep was gone and the trigger did not slam fire or drop fire. Now on to the weight issue. The CZ uses a coil spring to keep it engaged. This also controls pull weight. I removed the spring and cut off one coil to start with. After checking weight again I confirmed I was on the right track. I ended up removing one more full coil in 1/2 coil increments to get the desired pull weight. That night I checked the pull weight with my gauge and confirmed that it was an average weight of 2lbs 6 ounces. Perfect in my opinion.

So in conclusion, with these simple and free modifications, this rifle has been elevated from just a cool little 22 to a serious RIFLE in my opinion. It's a shame that it didn't come that way from the factory. If it did, it would be a SERIOUS value. I guess what can you expect for $4-500 nowadays.
 
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Re: CZ 452 22LR Observations....

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Terror/TITS</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Great review, sweet rifle! Is that the glass you're going to keep on it or are you going to switch to something else? </div></div>

No. I have a DI Products 25 MOA base on order and as soon as my ST-10 sells I will be getting a Vortex Viper 4-16 FFP MIL/MIL for it. I also have a T4 from the group buy on order.

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Abizdafuzz</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Looks great and thanks for the write up on the work, but I have to ask...where did you find the 10 round mags?? Thanks. </div></div>

Called CZ and ordered them direct.
 
Re: CZ 452 22LR Observations....

Steve you can get rid of creep in the trigger by sleeving the front pin. Nice addition to the spring work. Yo Dave offers the sleeves and springs (several of each) for about $20.
 
Re: CZ 452 22LR Observations....

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: ggmanning</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Steve you can get rid of creep in the trigger by sleeving the front pin. Nice addition to the spring work. Yo Dave offers the sleeves and springs (several of each) for about $20. </div></div>

Not from what I saw. Looks to me like the only way to get rid of creep would be to shorten the engagement.
 
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Not so, but just trying to help a brother out. But, hey, if it satisfies you go with it. The sear floats on the front pin and the loose fit is a good percentage of the creep. Sleeving the pin tightens the fit and thus lessens the amount of trigger pull before the sear moves. Pull the trigger slowly and watch the assembly move several tenths of a mm before it even engages. Once that is fixed by a sleeve you could get more finish by adjusting the sear but in the handful I've done the second step is not needed.
 
Re: CZ 452 22LR Observations....

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: ggmanning</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Not so, but just trying to help a brother out. But, hey, if it satisfies you go with it. The sear floats on the front pin and the loose fit is a good percentage of the creep. Sleeving the pin tightens the fit and thus lessens the amount of trigger pull before the sear moves. Pull the trigger slowly and watch the assembly move several tenths of a mm before it even engages. Once that is fixed by a sleeve you could get more finish by adjusting the sear but in the handful I've done the second step is not needed. </div></div>

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: ggmanning</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Steve you can get rid of creep in the trigger by sleeving the front pin. Nice addition to the spring work. Yo Dave offers the sleeves and springs (several of each) for about $20. </div></div>

You said "you can" and I thought you said "can you" my dyslexia kicking in. At any rate, I was not aware of the kit. Also while I took the time to watch the trigger as it functioned, the only take up I witnessed was the long arm of the trigger to sear engagement. I appreciate the suggestion, but I honestly don't see how it could help this trigger. Knowing the Czech's, they have made some changes to the way things are made. Maybe mine is different.
 
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It's called the YoDave Trigger Kit. I bought/installed the kit on my trainer and am very happy with it...

http://www.yodaveproducts.com/

That said, I had searched the net prior to buying the kit for some detailed pics on how to stone the sear and was unable to find any suitable pics. I a DIY type of person and wanted to try a DIY. Maybe next time. Or maybe I'll try lapping the bolt now.

Either way, great write up!
 
Re: CZ 452 22LR Observations....

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: 762frmafr</div><div class="ubbcode-body">The more I shoot this rifle, the more I love it. </div></div>
It's easy to do.

What size steel are you hitting at 425?
 
Re: CZ 452 22LR Observations....

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: StanwoodSpartan</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Now its time to get in on the Manners group buy stock, and get one of the DI industries custom bottom metal in addition to your trigger job. </div></div>

Done....just waiting on Tom and Co. to finish the stocks.

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Situation Normal</div><div class="ubbcode-body"> What size steel are you hitting at 425? </div></div>

Full size IPSC
 
Re: CZ 452 22LR Observations....

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: EventHorizon</div><div class="ubbcode-body">You would do yourself a favor in the near future by replacing the striker spring. I upgraded mine and the difference was very noticeable.

Striker Spring Upgrade

Cool rifle! </div></div>

Why? My CZ does not suffer from weak ignition.... In fact, replacing my spring with a heavier one would negate all the work I did to lighten the trigger pull.
 
Re: CZ 452 22LR Observations....

In noticed after about 2500 rounds that I was getting fliers on a regular basis and when looking at the cases there were differences in the strike marks on the cases. It was suggested that the factory spring is frequently a cause as it degrades fairly quickly.

I've reduced my trigger creep to zero and the pull to just over 2.5lbs with a yodave kit and I use this stronger strike spring. Now when I get fliers ( far less often) I know it's me.

Something to consider if the same happens to you.
 
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Is it easy to change the spring? I'm coming up to the 2500 on my 452, and if it happens on mine I want to put it right quickly - unfortunately, I'm the sort of person that can't even hammer a nail straight though!
On an semi related subject, myself and other shooters in the UK were lead to believe that moderators/suppressors/silencers were banned or illegal for civillian use in the USA, so how do you guys get around that?
 
Re: CZ 452 22LR Observations....

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: teabag_46</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Is it easy to change the spring? I'm coming up to the 2500 on my 452, and if it happens on mine I want to put it right quickly - unfortunately, I'm the sort of person that can't even hammer a nail straight though!
On an semi related subject, myself and other shooters in the UK were lead to believe that moderators/suppressors/silencers were banned or illegal for civillian use in the USA, so how do you guys get around that? </div></div>

It's a slightly fiddly operation but if you get the bolt buddy from the same place as the spring it makes life easier. There are youtube vids that show how it's all done.

I just got back from a session with the CZ and the new striker spring really does make a nice difference from the factory.

Regarding suppressors, when I move out of CA, it's the first thing I'll be getting for my centrefire rifle.
 
Re: CZ 452 22LR Observations....

I love the barrel! That one sick stick you have there. I have a few cz's and they are all shooters I just hate the cheap feeling of the bottom metal and trigger they have.
 
Re: CZ 452 22LR Observations....

Even though the bolt is on the wrong side that is a beauty. You will love that rig more and more every time you take it out.

Mine has had pups in the safe. I have a varmint in 22lr that is waiting for its Manners T2, and a Varmint in 17hmr, and then since I wanted one threaded, I just bought an american with the 16"threaded tube. Love them.
I did the brooks trigger kit on all of mine, $14 for a sweet trigger. The hours of cycling the bolt can be easily taken down to about 30 mins with a dremmel with a felt wheel and some Jb or jewlers rouge. Just cycle it a dozen or so times to show the contact surfaces and then polish them up , clean and oil and your set. That matt finish is crunchy.

The one thing I have noticed is the bores have been filthy as hell, not sure what they coat them with but it is pretty stubborn. I also wish the safety worked in reverse fashon, but definitely not a show stopper.

Mine all love the Wolf match stuff and shoot the CCI sub sonic very well.

Very nice rig, she will grow on you.