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Did you know National and State Parks are now considered racist? Parks, i.e., LAND. Well now you do.

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    This is quite possibly the worst piece of fucking journalism I've read to date:


    Here are some brain cell killing quotes:

    The outdoors and public lands suffer from the same systemic racism that the rest of our society does..

    Government officials and environmental advocates agree that the racial disparity in the outdoors is an existential crisis.

    Still, racial profiling and stereotyping remain a big concern for Tariq and many people of color in the outdoors.

    ...brings attention to systemic racism in the outdoors as well as other parts of society and translates into a long-term change in attitudes and behavior...

    How dare the Grand Canyon not make itself closer to urban areas. And fuck you Old Faithful, you racist bitch, for being out in the middle of nowhere.

    Identity politics continues to be a cancer in our national dialogue, and THAT is the real existential crisis. Change my mind.
     
    Identity politics? I know the term, and am familiar with it’s usage. As I understand it, it’s only a problem for the side that refuses to acknowledge it.

    What else is there to do? Shame marxists into not doing it? Outlaw it?
     
    Identity politics? I know the term, and am familiar with it’s usage. As I understand it, it’s only a problem for the side that refuses to acknowledge it.

    What else is there to do? Shame marxists into not doing it? Outlaw it?

    If I understand your question correctly, I'd say identity politics has its place and it can be applicable in certain conversations and analyses.

    However, in the context of the article above, I am using it in the sense that the authors have hastily found some type of discreet difference in various population's behavior (people of color vs whites) when it comes to patroning parks; and this difference is automatically labeled "RACISM!" It is a dishonest conclusion to solely look through the lens of race on something as benign as natural and state park visits, and ultimately ignores the possible 100 other variables that go into using parks exclusive of just one's race.

    In short, the media's constant over-utilization of identity politics to try to find the ghost in the machine (racism in parks being one awful example), is a threat to whatever glimpse of a post-racial society we/they/others may want to achieve.
     
    A similar article has been written a few times over the past few months. These article writers (or whatever they're called - not journalists) have never had an interesting original thought.
     
    That shift will be brutal. It will happen when the .gov decides to give reparations on the backs of the producer class

    Yeah, reparations on the backs of people who have never owned a slave to people who have never been slaves. We are going down a very slippery slope. I would argue welfare, section 8, and ebt cards are a form of reparations and the result has been terrible. Handouts don’t work long term. To help someone better themselves you are better off giving them a hand up for limited amount of time. But the democraps don’t want the system fixed, they keep it broken because they get votes from people who are too ignorant to figure out they are nothing but tools to help keep another kind of master in power.

    So national parks are racist because more white people visit them than black people......by that logic so is swimming. these people are sick in the head.
     
    Yeah, reparations on the backs of people who have never owned a slave to people who have never been slaves. We are going down a very slippery slope. I would argue welfare, section 8, and ebt cards are a form of reparations and the result has been terrible. Handouts don’t work long term. To help someone better themselves you are better off giving them a hand up for limited amount of time. But the democraps don’t want the system fixed, they keep it broken because they get votes from people who are too ignorant to figure out they are nothing but tools to help keep another kind of master in power.

    So national parks are racist because more white people visit them than black people......by that logic so is swimming. these people are sick in the head.
    Actually, swimming is legit racism, as is basketball, chess and sprinting.
     
    Once everything is racist, nothing will be. Go ahead and keep working the articles, MSM; eventually, you'll be left with nodding-head white-guilt leftists as your only readers (which, granted, is still a decent-sized group, but probably not enough to keep the advertisers happy).

    Here are the authors of the article:



    This article proves that white privilege is real - it takes a lot of privilege to write an article so mind-blowingly stupid in times like these.
     
    Did you honestly expect anything less from ABC (or CNN, CBS, NBC, etc.). I would have guessed and been right that this atrocity was written by some lily white, self-loathing, guilt-ridden, leftist piece of shit.

    IMHO, let's keep our national parks and wildlife areas "racist". You don't read too many stories about gang shootings in national parks, I don't have to tell you why.

    And I'll be proudly enjoying my white privilege today (and every day) when I go target shooting in the national forest behind my house.
     
    Another amazing quote I missed that the authors gloss over at break neck speed:

    "Lack of transportation to national parks and the cost of visiting were cited as the top reasons people -- especially Black and Hispanic Americans -- don't visit them more often, according to the study. Twice as many black and Hispanic Americans said they don't know what to do in national parks than whites."


    Wow, I mean, it's almost like different populations of individuals may value certain things differently? Or like certain populations of people prioritize certain social/public resources differently?

    #still_racist
     
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    Actually, swimming is legit racism, as is basketball, chess and sprinting.
    When I was Fifth Board on my high school chess team our toughest chess opponents were The East St. Louis Flyers. My team was all Jews and one goyim. We had an actual 2,100+ prodigy on 1st board, and 2nd board was an 1,800+, but East St. Louis had 1,600 players thirty kids deep. Their JV team never lost a match, and the vast majority of their victories were 5-0. Their Varsity Captain, Elijah, was a really cool kid. I would bet you he's very successful somewhere.

    A big part of their gifted program was competitive chess, and they played every day and attended strategy seminars weekly, from 1st grade on, in addition to whatever their curriculum was. By the time they were juniors and seniors in high school they were very, very good.

    We would win 1st and 2nd board, and loose 4th and 5th almost every time, and the match would be decided by 3rd board.

    It's the same shit with the rest of that. It has zero to do with skin, and is 100% cultural.

    The real progenitor of the racism that this new left, Antifa/BLM communists, are selling as theorized by Richard Delgado and Jean Stefancic, "Critical Race Theory" (the junk sociology that spawned the "micro-aggression", "subconscious racism", and the whole "systemic" racism in institutions that were expressly color blind), is different from the Progressive Racism of the early 20th century in really only one way. The white racism of the Progressives, Democrats, KKK, et al was based on "scientific" truth of the biologic and chemical differences between the races. That was the junk science of Eugenics.

    These modern "racialists" (the "good" kind of communist racists) start by admitting that eugenics is bunk, and that we are all, in-fact, biologically the same. They obliterate their own arguments right off the bat, and admit that the idea of humans having different "races" is scientifically untenable, and demonstrably, beyond all shadow of a doubt, false. It's the ultimate, "No offense, but", false premise. They then immediately start constructing this junk sociology theory on no real foundation at all, and admit that "race" as it is used by racialists/racists is entirely imaginary, yet we need to destroy America as we know it and rebuild it from the ground up, based on their theories, to be truly equal.

    This is no different that a communist claiming that real communism creates ultimate freedom. By teaching our kids racial determinism and to be racists in-fact we will create "true equality".

    In short, if you buy into this racism-is-good bullshit you are my enemy, and the enemy of every American. There is no parlay with this. You shoot this shit in the fucking face, period. Only violence will solve this.
     
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    If you havent been to the Grand Canyon, STFU, and go.

    'Mag'azine out.
    Never been; and it'll be after a complete visit (aka week) in Yosemite. My first and sadly only visit there blew me away. May even drive over to Hetch Hetchy. But GC is on the list before I'm too old. Same with Yellowstone.
     
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    When I was Fifth Board on my high school chess team our toughest chess opponents were The East St. Louis Flyers. My team was all Jews and one goyim. We had an actual 2,100+ prodigy on 1st board, and 2nd board was an 1,800+, but East St. Louis had 1,600 players thirty kids deep. Their JV team never lost a match, and the vast majority of their victories were 5-0. Their Varsity Captain, Elijah, was a really cool kid. I would bet you he's very successful somewhere.

    A big part of their gifted program was competitive chess, and they played every day and attended strategy seminars weekly, from 1st grade on, in addition to whatever their curriculum was. By the time they were juniors and seniors in high school they were very, very good.

    We would win 1st and 2nd board, and loose 4th and 5th almost every time, and the match would be decided by 3rd board.

    It's the same shit with the rest of that. It has zero to do with skin, and is 100% cultural.

    The real progenitor of the racism that this new left, Antifa/BLM communists, are selling as theorized by Richard Delgado and Jean Stefancic, "Critical Race Theory" (the junk sociology that spawned the "micro-aggression", "subconscious racism", and the whole "systemic" racism in institutions that were expressly color blind), is different from the Progressive Racism of the early 20th century in really only one way. The white racism of the Progressives, Democrats, KKK, et al was based on "scientific" truth of the biologic and chemical differences between the races. That was the junk science of Eugenics.

    These modern "racialists" (the "good" kind of communist racists) start by admitting that eugenics is bunk, and that we are all, in-fact, biologically the same. They obliterate their own arguments right off the bat, and admit that the idea of humans having different "races" is scientifically untenable, and demonstrably, beyond all shadow of a doubt, false. It's the ultimate, "No offense, but", false premise. They then immediately start constructing this junk sociology theory on no real foundation at all, and admit that "race" as it is used by racialists/racists is entirely imaginary, yet we need to destroy America as we know it and rebuild it from the ground up, based on their theories, to be truly equal.

    This is no different that a communist claiming that real communism creates ultimate freedom. By teaching our kids racial determinism and to be racists in-fact we will create "true equality".

    In short, if you buy into this racism-is-good bullshit you are my enemy, and the enemy of every American. There is no parlay with this. You shoot this shit in the fucking face, period. Only violence will solve this.
    There’s no differences between races? That’s ridiculous, and the Founding Fathers would say the same.
     
    Another amazing quote I missed that the authors gloss over at break neck speed:



    Wow, I mean, it's almost like different populations of individuals may value certain things differently? Or like certain populations of people prioritize certain social/public resources differently?

    #still_racist
    What? Don't know what to do? That's incredible. Are people that uneducated, non-curious, just plain stupid? Sure, you may want to check the local critter page (I thought about that at Yosemite) and stay on the trail if they don't have bear spray, a jacket (all times of year if you're hiking there), flashlight. How is that racist?
     
    I just F'n give up! We are completely swirling the F'n drain. IF you want to visit a Natl. Park, go F'n visit a park, Oh, I forgot, you need to have a JOB, to buy a car and be able to put gas in it. WTF was I thinking?? I am NOT going to hold your F'n hand! I also bet, that there are thousands of WHITE people in this Nation, that haven't been to a F'n Natl. Park either.
    Mac:mad::mad:
     
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    Never been; and it'll be after a complete visit (aka week) in Yosemite. My first and sadly only visit there blew me away. May even drive over to Hetch Hetchy. But GC is on the list before I'm too old. Same with Yellowstone.

    Yosemite is beautiful but doesnt compare to the Grand Canyon. When you do go allow at least several days and hike the NOrth Rim to the river. One of the most amazing things Ive seen and done. Hope to do it again 50 years later.
     
    Yosemite is beautiful but doesnt compare to the Grand Canyon. When you do go allow at least several days and hike the NOrth Rim to the river. One of the most amazing things Ive seen and done. Hope to do it again 50 years later.
    We’ve all seen the differences between the amount of pure shit that’s left everywhere when Leftists go somewhere vs Conservatives go somewhere - and which group cleans up after themselves, and which group vandalizes and sprays graffiti on everything. I don’t think encouraging Leftists to go to the parks we enjoy is a very good Idea!

    Charging that entrance fee is mainly what keeps the shitty people out of the parks.
     
    Yosemite is beautiful but doesnt compare to the Grand Canyon. When you do go allow at least several days and hike the NOrth Rim to the river. One of the most amazing things Ive seen and done. Hope to do it again 50 years later.
    That’s almost impossible to believe. I am talking the entire Yosemite and not just valley. Though coming through the tunnel and seeing El Capitan is truly one of the most awe inspiring things I’ve seen.

    That said I won’t doubt you. And yes, at least a week. Once Rush retired and Neil passed my new hobby is supposed to be visiting national parks.
     
    That’s almost impossible to believe. I am talking the entire Yosemite and not just valley. Though coming through the tunnel and seeing El Capitan is truly one of the most awe inspiring things I’ve seen.

    That said I won’t doubt you. And yes, at least a week. Once Rush retired and Neil passed my new hobby is supposed to be visiting national parks.
    Hit up Glacier , it is the least visited park we have and is spectacular. Going to the sun road is usually snowed in until June .
     
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    Hit up Glacier , it is the least visited park we have and is spectacular. Going to the sun road is usually snowed in until June .
    I want to do the big three In next 6-8 years: Yosemite, Grand Canyon and Yellowstone. When I do Yellowstone I’ll do Grand Teton. Hell if I drive I may do a few others like Badlands.
     
    I want to do the big three In next 6-8 years: Yosemite, Grand Canyon and Yellowstone. When I do Yellowstone I’ll do Grand Teton. Hell if I drive I may do a few others like Badlands.

    My wife and I are moving to California from VA in OCT, and we are planning on hitting either yellowstone or grand canyon depending on which route we take. Really looking forward to it.
     
    Have they tried busing? Worked well in the '70s.

    Maybe affirmative action?
    Roll a bunch of buses in the hood to load them up telling them you're taking them way out in the country to enjoy nature?

    Not today whitey, not today...
     
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    My wife and I are moving to California from VA in OCT, and we are planning on hitting either yellowstone or grand canyon depending on which route we take. Really looking forward to it.
    Hope they are paying well to move behind enemy lines
     
    Having been to LA,, Oakland, SF and Sacramento, getting orders to CA was my greatest fear.

    Honestly, likewise, for most of her career we've been Europe or Eastern Seaboard with relative ease. This is her XO/CO Tour so there was a bit less flexibility in preference. :(

    Its gonna suck 2A wise, already planned on where I am storing all my gas guns and cans, but trying to reframe the positive and say I'll have nothing to shoot but 1911s and bolt guns, could be worse.
     
    I've been going to Yosemite and the surrounding area four or five times a year for decades. The entire area is spectacular . In forty years I have never spotted a Hood Rat, and I'm thankful! Luckily these people have no interest in nature or the place would be screwed. Anyone who intentionally wants to bring them up there is a moron.
     
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    If you havent been to the Grand Canyon, STFU, and go.

    'Mag'azine out.
    this is the jist of the point from our side... Blacks make up 13% of the US population... Hispanics, 16%... whites, 63%... seems that there should be about the same percentage of each visiting these parks.... but if not, then what do these people want done? Would they like far fewer whites to visit, so as to set the percentages in more proper PC order? How would they like that? just fewer people to keep the concessions profitable, fewer park rangers employed because you need fewer... and guess what, the Blacks will still be pissed... so what the hell?
     
    this is the jist of the point from our side... Blacks make up 13% of the US population... Hispanics, 16%... whites, 63%... seems that there should be about the same percentage of each visiting these parks.... but if not, then what do these people want done? Would they like far fewer whites to visit, so as to set the percentages in more proper PC order? How would they like that? just fewer people to keep the concessions profitable, fewer park rangers employed because you need fewer... and guess what, the Blacks will still be pissed... so what the hell?
    Pretty much how they address all 'disparities'. The focus is always closing the gap.
     
    Pretty much how they address all 'disparities'. The focus is always closing the gap.
    all we want is to be left alone... stop getting in our faces pointing your fingers because we had the temerity to wake up this morning... getting sick to death of this crap... I love my country, just the way it has always been... it is as much of a utopia as it can be... I don't need a minority population in this country attempting to seize it from us... they have no right to do that ... if you are envious then get busy and earn your own way... stay in school, stop knocking up young girls and disappearing on the children... earn your pride, don't demand it as an entitlement... you want reparations from me? I will provide it in 147 grain increments..
     
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    This is quite possibly the worst piece of fucking journalism I've read to date:


    Here are some brain cell killing quotes:









    How dare the Grand Canyon not make itself closer to urban areas. And fuck you Old Faithful, you racist bitch, for being out in the middle of nowhere.

    Identity politics continues to be a cancer in our national dialogue, and THAT is the real existential crisis. Change my mind.
    Re-reading some of this. The two quotes mentioned really stand out:

    The outdoors and public lands suffer from the same systemic racism that the rest of our society does..
    Government officials and environmental advocates agree that the racial disparity in the outdoors is an existential crisis.
    Now, if the outdoors and public land are "racist" doesn't that imply something higher up in the food chain is? Like really higher up? Like God? Just how can "the outdoors" be racist? How is land, in and of itself, racist? Again, land, created by God or perhaps better said "created not by man" so we can take religion out of the equation and approach from pure logic.
     
    Normally, I make an effort to understand the viewpoint of everyone that proposes some point but, I have to stop at this point. This goes far beyond ridiculous and it insulting to the intelligence of the recipient to whom this author intended.
     
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    I live 90 minutes from the Grand Canyon. Last time I visited the majority of visitors were Asian, plus plenty of blacks, hispanics, and other minorities; honkys were the minority.
     
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    Every time I've been to the GC, there were folks from ALL OVER THE WORLD there.
    German, Chinese, Indian, Malaysian, Norwegian, Saudis, Russian etc etc.
    Must be racist.
     
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    Every time I've been to the GC, there were folks from ALL OVER THE WORLD there.
    German, Chinese, Indian, Malaysian, Norwegian, Saudis, Russian etc etc.
    Must be racist.


    Nail meet hammer.
     
    darn straight they are trees use brown on there bark and dirt is brown with rock embedded in it and animals are very raciest cause they were domesticated by the evil white man to do work for him yea that makes sense ( really It does not ) the snowflakes don't care everything is racist i say they stop living in a racist world and settle there own colony on the moon I have seen there transport vessel first hand
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    they can just climb in and poof they are on the moon that's made of cheese .
    wonder if they would buy that idea Id be happy if they left the earth like migrated all at one time into the sea .
     
    I honestly wish them the very best. Just leave us alone to live our lives without trying to penalize us for busting our asses our whole life to make something of ourselves for our families.

    If they wanted to go to a national park, then they would. They are not interested. That’s their choice. The park isn’t racist because they don’t care to go visit it. White people aren’t bad because they do. National Parks belong to everyone. No invitation required. Go if you want. Or don’t go. We don’t care.
     
    I honestly wish them the very best. Just leave us alone to live our lives without trying to penalize us for busting our asses our whole life to make something of ourselves for our families.

    If they wanted to go to a national park, then they would. They are not interested. That’s their choice. The park isn’t racist because they don’t care to go visit it. White people aren’t bad because they do. National Parks belong to everyone. No invitation required. Go if you want. Or don’t go. We don’t care.

    There are no 'they' in this conversation.
     
    Why is it always white people are the playing the race card?

    Aunt Jemima, the Redskins and Indians, Uncle Ben.

    All white people crying that they're racist. What the fuck do they know?

    I understand sticking up for people and defending them against actual racism, but what the fuck.

    I've had enough of this bullshit.
     
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