Dont understand how anyone votes Dem

A lot of people who don't pay taxes, think they pay taxes. When in actuality their tax returns are for more than they were strong armed for.
I've met some folks that thought a tax refund was a great thing, rather than an interest free loan to the gov.
A lot of people are so ignorant they don't even realize that their tax refund is money they already over paid and they are just getting it back. They think its just a gift from Uncle Sam. I had this young kid as a helper one time on a job site and he was talking about something he was going to buy with his tax money. Some how that led into a conversation about taxes he asked me "How can the government afford to give everybody all this money every year?" I said you do realize that the money you are getting back is money that you already over paid to the government through out the year right? He says what money I haven't sent them any money?.......but that is exactly how uncle Sam wants his sheep! After working with me for a few weeks he was no longer as much of a sheep....LOL
 
You have a choice on Tuesday. Vote Republican or vote Communist. The Democratic party is now pure, unadulterated Communism. I grew up believing that fighting Communism was our responsibility as Americans. Today, they have re-named themselves to fool the voters and mislead them with kinder, gentler promises of... Communism. Vote Tuesday. Vote straight Republican Ticket. Any other vote is a vote to destroy America.

Maybe in the not-too-far-distant future... we'll have a 'real' Libertarian or Patriot party. But to get there... we need to stomp the commies now. Right now.

Cheers,

Sirhr
 
thts why we need a flat tax or no tax, its a weapon they use to divide and control us.
I feel like a flat tax across the board would be the simplest fairest way. Every one pay the same percentage across the board no matter how much money you make, or how many kids you have. I will use 10% as an example......You make $1.00 per year you pay $.10 you make $100,000.00 per year you pay $10,000.00., but they will never do that they know if it were that simple (and it could be) they wouldn't be able to bamboozle all the sheep they do.
 
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I feel like a flat tax across the board would be the simplest fairest way. Every one pay the same percentage across the board no matter how much money you make, or how many kids you have. I will use 10% as an example......You make $1.00 per year you pay $.10 you make $100,000.00 per year you pay $10,000.00., but they will never do that they know if it were that simple (and it could be) they wouldn't be able to bamboozle all the sheep they do.

It's not bamboozling... it's punishing success. They call this kind of taxation "Regressive" because it hurts the poor.

NO... it does not. It makes everyone responsible for paying based on their success. If you make nothing, you give little.

If you are a gazillionaire... you pay a lot. But you keep a lot more than you pay.

The reason they won't do a flat tax is that leftists have to tell the poor that they are punishing the successful... for exploiting the poor. Which is BS.

See my post above.

Sirhr
 
I feel like a flat tax across the board would be the simplest fairest way. Every one pay the same percentage across the board no matter how much money you make, or how many kids you have. I will use 10% as an example......You make $1.00 per year you pay $.10 you make $100,000.00 per year you pay $10,000.00., but they will never do that they know if it were that simple (and it could be) they wouldn't be able to bamboozle all the sheep they do.


There are some intrinsic unfairness with the flat tax as the guy that pays 10 million in taxes never gets 10 million in services.

Still its better than what we currently have because under the mess of a system we have now you can be rich enough to pay nothing or "poor" enough to get money back while the middle class pays everything.

The rich do in fact pay the lions share of the taxes except perhaps Liz Warren she is claiming 50K in underwear or some such shit and John kerry with his tax dodging yacht.
 
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how about no federal tax at all. we didn't have one til the first set of communists got in charge

There are some intrinsic unfairness with the flat tax as the guy that pays 10 million in taxes never gets 10 million in services.

Still its better than what we currently have because under the mess of a system we have now you can be rich enough to pay nothing or "poor" enough to get money back while the middle class pays everything.

The rich do in fact pay the lions share of the taxes except perhaps Liz Warren she is claiming 50K in underwear or some such shit and John kerry with his tax dodging yacht.
 
how about no federal tax at all. we didn't have one til the first set of communists got in charge

Im fine with that.

I realize there has to be a tax and Im willing to pay. just dont want a system based on politically chosen winners and losers.

Consumption tax has its reasons to dislike it but it seems that it impacts all equally regardless of station in life.

Herman Caine shpould be invited to work on this issue.
 
And you think they do now?

No.

The tax should be "This percent or X dollars, whichever is lower"

Id like to see Romny lose all his money but I had some sympathy for him, Harry Reed claiming he never paid taxes than showing that he had like a 7-10 mil payment.

Why should one guy have to pay that kind of money.

Govt should eat a dick, cut their spending.

They need to starve for a while and learn whats necessary.

Sadly what will be decided as necessary will be that that gets them votes not what is good for the USA.
 
No taxation without representation.. we fought for that years ago and we won that battle.. somehow we’ve let them take it back over the years. Now we pay so illegals can get free food and sue Americans, we pay so More and more of our land is locked up, we have no control over how money stolen from us is spent. What did the I.r.s. And post office need all that 40cal ammo for anyways? If there is a light still visible at the end of the tunnel, we must get back to the point were our government fears we the people. And as far as demoncrouts are concerned, the American catalyst was and always will be guns and the second amendment. Anyone not 100% accepting of that needs to remove themselves from America before they are forcibly removed. Yea you have the right to think whatever you want as a legal American citizen, But that right is terminated the second you violate someone else’s right..
 
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I consider myself a pretty open-minded guy, and I can't wrap my head around the liberal philosophies either. In the end I think it simply comes down to winning votes and maintaining some sort of control.
 
A truly fair tax would be dividing the federal budget by the population, and that quotient is everyone's tax bill.
So you have five kids does this mean you pay for them. A sliding rate scale based on income is fair. The problem is they spend too effin much and they don't mind burdening the taxpayer. How about just spending less?

If the Gov pays a million to do anything...the reality is it could likely be done for 3-400 thousand. Someone has to cover those kickbacks and campaign donations.
 
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It's easy, first you remove these things:
1. Logic
2. Reason
3. Accountability
4. Adult behavior
5. (For most of the women) any redeeming/attractive quality
6. Normal eye height while talking/womansplaining
7 At least 50% of potential IQ

ps- add to the list

R
 
Fair tax is a oxymoronic illusion. If your cell mate offers a glass of wine while he is raping you is that fair in your mind? Just because your ok with a deal doesn’t mean im supposed to be
 
But meanwhile steal money from me so California can enforce a law mandating vaccines? Or what was it 500,000,000 to planned parenthood? How can you in clear conscience claim it’s fair to steal money from you and then spend it on stuff you are morally unposed to. Don’t even get me started on all the money Obama gave to outright terrorist groups
 
I’m kidding but I’m not. I’m getting into reloading. Been wanting to for years but never had the space, time, money, etc. I just recently had a epifiny (is that how you spell it?) and found I can get a hand press that is portable so I can keep a backpack all set up like a reloading b.o.b. When not being used. Reloading is a lot more common up here out of necessity
 
So you have five kids does this mean you pay for them.
Yep. They're your kids after all.

A sliding rate scale based on income is fair.

Does Wal mart have a sliding scale for groceries? Does Exxon for a gallon of gas?

Government provides a service. There's no reason one person should pay more for than service than someone else.
 
You have a choice on Tuesday. Vote Republican or vote Communist. The Democratic party is now pure, unadulterated Communism. I grew up believing that fighting Communism was our responsibility as Americans. Today, they have re-named themselves to fool the voters and mislead them with kinder, gentler promises of... Communism. Vote Tuesday. Vote straight Republican Ticket. Any other vote is a vote to destroy America.

Maybe in the not-too-far-distant future... we'll have a 'real' Libertarian or Patriot party. But to get there... we need to stomp the commies now. Right now.

Cheers,

Sirhr
Done ! (mail in ballot) Straight RED Ticket......(y)(y)(y)
 
So what happens when we lose control of the house tomorrow? What happens to FL when they get a devout Socialist in place? What happens in TX if Cruz loses, not out of the question???

Looks like the next two years will be two years of total standstill in getting anything done...
 
So what happens when we lose control of the house tomorrow? What happens to FL when they get a devout Socialist in place? What happens in TX if Cruz loses, not out of the question???

Looks like the next two years will be two years of total standstill in getting anything done...
Nik, good Lord, Stop. No, not out of the question, but why do you automatically assume the worst ? The whole process is a leap of faith and there are a lot of variables (both good and bad). I tend to think it's going to be a pretty good day for conservatives tomorrow, but we're all going to have to wait and see. You did (or are going to) vote, right ? If you succumb to anxiety and stay home, you've simply given one more vote to the opposition. Please vote, if you haven't already. :)
 
While I intended on voting, my first time was when bush junior “won” after having a recount done in Florida were guess who was governor? And from what I remember hearing the numbers were not in bushes favor but he was already in the whitehouse. Of course this was before everyone had internet so I am struggling to remember how I got my news then. Because we all know the internet don’t lie.
 
Yep. They're your kids after all.



Does Wal mart have a sliding scale for groceries? Does Exxon for a gallon of gas?

Government provides a service. There's no reason one person should pay more for than service than someone else.

The Government provides a secure bubble of infrastructure for commerce. The average person does not take or use much of that. They are happy with less. Others however are more ambitious and are willing to work harder for a bit more. So they are benefiting from that bubble a bit more. They are using more of the services the Gov provides. To pay a bit more does not seem unreasonable. I think most would agree. The problem is the Govt does not understand what is fair and always goes to far.