Dont understand how anyone votes Dem
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So essentially, punish people for taking the initiative and being successful?
Cops, EMS, and fire respond to poor neighborhoods far more than wealthy ones.
Nevermind all the freebies being handed out to the "poor".
Over 2/3 of the budget goes to entitlement spending, so infrastructure is a tiny drop in the bucket.
Spend your money on ammo or supporting a welfare bum whose only life skill is squatting out illegitimate babies...
Vote wisely.
Nik, good Lord, Stop. No, not out of the question, but why do you automatically assume the worst ? The whole process is a leap of faith and there are a lot of variables (both good and bad). I tend to think it's going to be a pretty good day for conservatives tomorrow, but we're all going to have to wait and see. You did (or are going to) vote, right ? If you succumb to anxiety and stay home, you've simply given one more vote to the opposition. Please vote, if you haven't already.
I am an eternal pessimist and never stop underestimating the stupidity of the public at large. They are legitimate questions though and since I always pride myself on my ability to plan for unforeseen or poorly risk assessed outcomes, they are important ones to answer. I always like to get opinions to these types of questions from like minded people. That is the only basis for my asking.
I always vote despite my pessimism. My view is that if you decide not to vote, then you have zero rights to complain about the aftermath.
Yeah, you do make some really good points, I agree. I am much less pessimistic than I used to be. I think I'm more of a "pragmatist/realist" now. I agree with you, sometimes, you just can't believe the stupidity you are forced to witness. But, you can't let the pessimism consume you either. Doesn't mean you should do the "rah, rah, siss boom bah" thing, complete with pom-poms all the time, but a person will be better off in finding a balance.
The other thing I would have liked to have put in my previous post was that none of this BS is going to end with just one election. This (liberal vs conservative) has been a fight and it will continue to be a fight, well into the future. Well beyond just this election. I tend to think what we are witnessing is a new level of decline/decay in societal mores in general. To your point/way of thinking, there will be a day where the liberals will come into power again and we will be in the "minority". It will happen. Meeting in the middle is a nice concept, but considering how badly we have been bent over and for as long as we have, I'm inclined to just say fuk you to the libs. Being nice isn't going to gain me anything. In fact, for every anti 2A stunt they pull, we should introduce an equally onerous proposal to strip away their coveted abortion rights. Abortion is not a right in the BoR, 2A is.
A sliding scale income tax or progressive income tax is kind of like this.
Three people go to the grocery store to buy bread & milk.
The first buyer made a $1,000,000.00 last year. The store charges this buyer $100.00 for the bread & milk.
The second buyer made $75,000.00 last year. The store charges this buyer $6.50 for the bread and milk.
The third buyer made $28,000.00 last year. The store gives this buyer the bread & milk at no charge, and gives them $10.00 to boot.
All a graduated income tax does is charge one person more to live in our wonderful country than it charges another.
Three people go to the grocery store to buy bread & milk.
The first buyer made a $1,000,000.00 last year. The store charges this buyer $100.00 for the bread & milk.
The second buyer made $75,000.00 last year. The store charges this buyer $6.50 for the bread and milk.
The third buyer made $28,000.00 last year. The store gives this buyer the bread & milk at no charge, and gives them $10.00 to boot.
All a graduated income tax does is charge one person more to live in our wonderful country than it charges another.
Fairly accurate if you leave out the loopholes left for high end tax lawyers and accountants to work with.
R
What exactly is a loophole?
Isn't it parts of a law that someone is smart enough to see?
Is the Mossberg Shockwave a "loophole" weapon?
If the same "loophole" is available to everyone, what's the problem?
Loophole is a generic word that describes a law passed to allow higher income folks to pay less than their expected/prescribed percentile.
You'll notice I didn't say I was for or against the use of these...
R
There you go taunting us again. You are a mean, mean person.....
I may be wrong... but I hope not.
Cheers,
Sirhr
Loophole... You are a rich guy in a 30 percent tax bracket. But you can afford a lobbyist. So you send the lobbyist to capitol hill and the lobbyist spreads around a bunch of 'campaign contributions' and the Congress writes an addendum to the tax code that says "You, Mr. Rich Guy" can deduct XXX, YYY and ZZZ from your 30 percent... and by the time you are done, you only owe 9 percent. XXX YYY and ZZZ may be a farm exemption. A writeoff for the lease of your Aston Martin. A change to the definition of income from day-trading... a deduction for your pet Panther... as an endangered species. Hollywood script writing is no longer taxable... whatever you want. If you are creative, rich and have access to a lobbyist... you can get your own loophole!!
While the poverty-striken pay nothing. And the middle class can't afford loopholes... so they pay all the taxes! The poor, ignorant voters get breaks. The rich elite commies get breaks. And the middle class (The proletariat of Lenin-fame) get screwed.
That's loopholes!
That's why a flat tax is such a good idea. If you are Jeff Bezos, you are going to pay a BILLION %$$#ing dollars in taxes a year. If you are a street person living in a refrigerator box and taking in coins... you are going to pay $40 in taxes a year. But everyone pays.
And you can't buy your way out of taxes.... like the Kennedys, the Gates's, the Bush's, the Baldwins's... and the Clintons.
Arguably, a flat tax increases income to the gummint... and if you combine it with a flat consumption tax (Sales tax... NOT a VAT)... then you get really egalatarian taxation.
Though the problem is not government revenue... it is spending. As DeToqueville pointed out, "the Republic will survive until the Congress realizes that they can bribe the people with their own money..."
Sirhr
I am listening to teh radio at 1900 hrs, if the early returns look questionable for the dems I will do an all nighter to watch the meltdowns on TV. CNN, MSNBC, CNBC and PBS.
buy a lot more ammo, there are some good deals out there, dollar cost average your stockpile, if you buy cheap now it lowers your average Unit cost across your total inventory. Just giving you a more frugal logic to justify doing what you should be doing no matter what.
buy a lot more ammo, there are some good deals out there, dollar cost average your stockpile, if you buy cheap now it lowers your average Unit cost across your total inventory. Just giving you a more frugal logic to justify doing what you should be doing no matter what.
What is right with a flat tax that would make an asshole like Bezos pay a billion dollars in tax, while someone that makes $10,000.00 a year pays maybe $800.00? I can't back any tax system that grossly unbalanced just because both were charged the same percentage. That still goes back to my bread and milk example.
you are the problem, envy is not a logical emotion when it comes to money so go to confession and stop coveting other peoples shit. its none of your business anyway.
I’m not saying I agree or disagree but what’s the alternative? $800 is a lot of money for someone that only makes $10,000 (your example). That’s nearly 10% of his earnings and is huge when you are trying to live off of that. On the other hand, $1,000,000,000 pales in comparison when the biz brings in $20,000,000,000. You can’t argue that $9200 that is left for one guy is even remotely comparable to $19,000,000,000. That’s not even in the ball park of apples to oranges much less apples to apples.
I don't covet other people's money. I'm not jealous of those that have a lot of money. I just don't think that the government is ENTITLED to large chunks of money from those that make a lot of it.
I dont think the gov is entitled to a goddam thing , not even knowing how much money people have or make.
Still why should any one person or entity have to pay so high in taxes?
That person or entity does not get a return in value equal to what they pay.
Still though I think there needs to be a defined "tithe" as you will to the government and than bolster it with a straight sales tax.
That money should all go to the state also.
The states can than each decide how much to pay to the Fed Govt in equal portion to allow it to provide a military and a postal service.
tell the kids they gotta start cutting lawns and shoveling snow if they want to eat. Priorities man.
Ha. One is 4 months old. I’d love to see that tho. The others do some things but the oldest is only 4. Maybe if I can get them reloading. You might be on to something there. Got plenty of brass that needs cleaned and sized.
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