Finally a better Flying with Firearms Answer

I’m still not getting the warm and fuzzy feeling for flying with my long gun. But if I’m going to to shoot out of town matches. I’m just going to have to suck it up and see how it goes

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In my experience, they're all the same. What's different is the airport's procedure for getting your firearm luggage to the security screening.

Though, I've heard some airlines (like Delta) recently started zip-tying the suitcase zippers closed and requiring you to go to the luggage claim office to retrieve your suitcase (rather than getting it off the normal baggage claim conveyor thingy with all the other luggage. This was a response to the Fort Lauderdale airport shooting. I have not flown Delta in a while, and I've not yet had this particular experience.
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As many have said flying with your weapons is fine.

You can choose to listen to guys on the internet for the rules or go to the TSA and the airlines you are flying for all rules. They are there ones who will decide if you get you and your stuff on the plane. I don't worry about TSA or airline folks stealing that's what I have insurance for, no different than my car.

As Frank highlighted at the gate they asked for his keys or combo, if they couldn't connect with him or if he refused and the flight was departing, by bye! It says this clearly in the TSA rules.
 
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Due to a previous job that required me to throw a proverbial dart at a US map and travel there on short notice I have flown with firearms hundreds of times. By my count to 40 plus states give or take a few. I have been through many of the airports mentioned in this thread. My last set of flights were last July, fortunately that was for a well needed vacation.

I have never used a TSA lock. I always used regular keyed pad lock. I have never been asked to by an airline or TSA agent to use a TSA lock. I have never had a lock cut on any of my gun cases.

About 98% of the time I was just raveling with .45 for personal protection but I would haul out long rifle cases when traveling for a hunt. I always use soft sided luggage and put my .45 in a hard-sided case inside the luggage. I fill out the declaration tag and drop it in the hard-sided case then lock it up, usually with the airline agent watching, then zip it up and they take it. I never put locks on the outside of my luggage.

Normal procedure is to wait in the area to give TSA time to receive your bag and be able to call you to come unlock it if they choose to physically inspect the case firearm ect… That varies by airport some, but the basic procedure is the same. I always arrive a couple of hours early for a flight, since 9/11 anyway, so I don’t care if they take extra time for inspection.

I have not been asked to take a firearm out for inspection to insure it is unloaded in well over a decade. That stupidity seems to have stopped. I would refuse now with out an officer or TSA agent because I don’t want to get shot (as mentioned previously in this thread).

I have been asked about ammo on occasion, maybe three out of four times but I never carry more then 50 rounds, usually only 24rds for three mags so I never come close to the max on ammo. Please note the specific airline policy on quantity of ammo allowed before flying. In my exp the airlines have different policies covering that regardless of TSA max allowed. Best not to be arguing what the TSA rule is with an inexperience ticket counter agent who only knows airline policy if that. If you need a lot of ammo where you are going ship it in advance.

What was new on my last set of flights was in two airports they took my locked case and tried to pull it apart with the lock on and see if they could still stick their hand in. I had foolishly used the gun case my new S&W M&P .40 came in with a pad lock on it. Never again. Case was too flimsy but after a short discussion with the lead TSA agent that had been called, he approved it for travel. I told him thank you and that I would never travel with that case again. Get a Pelican 1170 and don’t look back.

One last thing. I refuse to ever travel through NY airports or Logan ever again. Google what can happen if you try and check your firearm at one of those airports or pick one up after landing there.

There for what it’s worth in my experience flying with firearms in the US.

HTH

I had my side arm checked this weekend to see if it was loaded.

I was not separated from my firearm by United, nobody from united touched or looked into my case.

I also arrived at the airport before TSA and the gate agent would NOT take the firearm. I had to wait until TSA security came in. This seemed to be later than the main security check point..

I paid for the $30 for checked bag tag at United, BUT kept my firearm with me and walked over to the chairs near the ticketing and bag check-drop counters.

1 hour later, a United agent came over to me and said he would walk down to the TSA inspection room with me. At that point we walked together through the lobby and down the elevator, then across another lobby. We had plenty of time to talk :) Only the TSA agent opened the case and checked to see if it was loaded and that the ammo was not in magazines.

The United agent never looked to see how much ammo or had the gun case, never even looked inside the case and never held the case without me standing there.

It is apparent that your experience is far different that what I had this weekend. I think that's Franks point.

Strangely enough on my return flight, I did NOT have a firearm, but my ticket was flagged and had a harder time explaining that in Denver.


Fuck Denver was windy this weekend!
 
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Every airport and every airline seems to have their own individual rules for how firearms are handled.

It's awfully confusing, and sometimes I think individuals working at the airports and airlines make up their own rules.

Every time I've flown with firearms has been a different experience.
This is my experience time snd time again. Especially with liberal shithole cities. I have flown a lit with fishing tackle, they lost it once so i started carrying it on. No problem for years. I go through boston and they loose their shit! Come at me like its a knife. They said they can make up their own rules beyond tsa rules.

i precheck my guns, ammo in my checked luggage, cable lock on firearm, my own locks on the case. If it hits a secondary inspection, ill give em the best damn verbal beating i can muster. If they have already checked it, why would it need a second check?
 
What are the best cases for airline travel in terms of durability, security and protecting a precision rifle from getting knocked out of whack during the trip?
Pelican (all I use), SKB, Storm, Hardigg, and other high quality cases. Those baggage handlers toss that shit around, so, do yourself a favor and spend a couple hundred $$ to protect your investment.
 
Any suggestions on quality cases for rifles (even if they have to be taken down stock removed, whatever) that are under the 62" rule (L + W + H) and can also be kept under the weight limit?
 
Is anyone really surprised that something involving TSA is needlessly confusing?

I’ve flown with firearms several times. Airlines differ on details regarding ammo. Delta was fine with loaded mags in pouches in the rifle case. Alaskan wanted ammo in a separate locked container.

Coming back from Survival Trial in 2016, we drove from Raton to Colorado Springs. At the CS airport, I ended up not even having my pistols inspected. TSA was unusually douchey. Airline agent ended up just smiling and handing me an inspection card and I was on my way.

Reminds me of the occasions when some fucking retard in line indiscreetly asks ‘is that a rifle case?!’
 
Nahh I use heavy duty locks.

Arrive early, hand the key to the door agent in advance...done. NO cut locks and after all is said and done the cases fly with real locks.
 
So, just to give a nod to @lowlight and his advice...

Flying to Houston from Denver today for the NRL Championship. Checked three bags, rifle case, pelican case with ammo and everything else, bag with clothes for me and the wife.

They went into ALL three. The rifle in my presence at the TSA room in Denver. They went through the other two on their own.

Bag with clothes in it, had a regular lock on it. They cut it. Left me a nice notice of inspection, no call, they just did it.

Pelican case with pack, ammo and gear? TSA lock, opened, inspected, relocked.

If I'd had anything like ammo or a firearm in the non TSA lock bag they wouldn't have put it on the plane.
 
I just assume they are going to go through my luggage if I have ammo in it. So I put it in the suitcase where they can easily get to it. They also changed the wording on their website to add some clarity to what locks you are suppose to use.