Fire forming packers - Cream of wheat
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Re: Fire forming packers - Cream of wheat
I use natural cotton and stuff the cases as full as I can before firing them. Make sure you use cotton and not a synthetic batting. Synthetics will melt on the inside of the barrel. I use a small wooden dowel to pack the cases.
Don't forget to clean your barrel before actually shooting "live" rounds. Any packing material will leave "junk" in the barrel.
I use natural cotton and stuff the cases as full as I can before firing them. Make sure you use cotton and not a synthetic batting. Synthetics will melt on the inside of the barrel. I use a small wooden dowel to pack the cases.
Don't forget to clean your barrel before actually shooting "live" rounds. Any packing material will leave "junk" in the barrel.
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OK someone explain the process to me... I am going through too many rounds on fire forming.
OK someone explain the process to me... I am going through too many rounds on fire forming.
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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: esromvre</div><div class="ubbcode-body">OK someone explain the process to me... I am going through too many rounds on fire forming.</div></div>
On my 243AI:
10gr of unique pistol powder in a primed case, fill the rest with cornmeal, plug with a small wad of toilet paper. Fire. You have moved your shoulder forward and started to create the sharp shoulder
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: esromvre</div><div class="ubbcode-body">OK someone explain the process to me... I am going through too many rounds on fire forming.</div></div>
On my 243AI:
10gr of unique pistol powder in a primed case, fill the rest with cornmeal, plug with a small wad of toilet paper. Fire. You have moved your shoulder forward and started to create the sharp shoulder
Re: Fire forming packers - Cream of wheat
So after the fire forming, you just neck size and go from there?
So after the fire forming, you just neck size and go from there?
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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: 45Badger</div><div class="ubbcode-body">So after the fire forming, you just neck size and go from there?</div></div>
That is all I did. You need to check and make sure it will re-chamber after neck sizing. I only FL sized after 3-4 firings.
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: 45Badger</div><div class="ubbcode-body">So after the fire forming, you just neck size and go from there?</div></div>
That is all I did. You need to check and make sure it will re-chamber after neck sizing. I only FL sized after 3-4 firings.
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I shot a match with an older gentleman who fireformed his 30/06 to 30/06AI while shooting the match! No cornflakes were harmed in fireforming his cases.
I shot a match with an older gentleman who fireformed his 30/06 to 30/06AI while shooting the match! No cornflakes were harmed in fireforming his cases.
Re: Fire forming packers - Cream of wheat
Personally, I use powder and a bullet and go shoot it. Most fire forming loads are just as accurate as the new case. Simple and don't have lots of crap in the barrel when done.
Another good option might be the Hornady System:
http://www.accurateshooter.com/technical-articles/hornadys-hydraulic-case-forming-dies/
Personally, I use powder and a bullet and go shoot it. Most fire forming loads are just as accurate as the new case. Simple and don't have lots of crap in the barrel when done.
Another good option might be the Hornady System:
http://www.accurateshooter.com/technical-articles/hornadys-hydraulic-case-forming-dies/
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I use grits and unique, seal with softened candle wax.
I use grits and unique, seal with softened candle wax.
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I've never used any "packer" for fire forming and I have fire formed 22-250AI and 243AI. I've taken my standard loads to a prairie dog town and did some fire forming. Both calibers were still accurate to 400 yds. I would not trim the cases to a trim to length prior to fire forming, the case length will shrink once it is fire formed.
I've never used any "packer" for fire forming and I have fire formed 22-250AI and 243AI. I've taken my standard loads to a prairie dog town and did some fire forming. Both calibers were still accurate to 400 yds. I would not trim the cases to a trim to length prior to fire forming, the case length will shrink once it is fire formed.
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I to have Fire formed at matches. But if i can FF without barrel ware than thats the way I want to go. Will try this and see how it works for me.
What is the down side of this process? is the clean up after a pain in the ass?
I to have Fire formed at matches. But if i can FF without barrel ware than thats the way I want to go. Will try this and see how it works for me.
What is the down side of this process? is the clean up after a pain in the ass?
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I fireformed 100 piece of 243 Ai today, got great accuracy a great time at the range and 100 rds of practice, it is not wearing the barrel to me, it is still shooting my rifle.
I fireformed 100 piece of 243 Ai today, got great accuracy a great time at the range and 100 rds of practice, it is not wearing the barrel to me, it is still shooting my rifle.
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I am another for fireforming with a bullet.
http://www.snipershide.com/forum/ubbthre...793#Post1162793
Mine are very accurate with fireform loads and it is the same as if you had fired it.
I am another for fireforming with a bullet.
http://www.snipershide.com/forum/ubbthre...793#Post1162793
Mine are very accurate with fireform loads and it is the same as if you had fired it.
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MOST of the time when I'm fireforming, I'm starting out with 220 Russian and blowing them out to 6PPC. Without overboring a different chamber I have to use a filler.
MOST of the time when I'm fireforming, I'm starting out with 220 Russian and blowing them out to 6PPC. Without overboring a different chamber I have to use a filler.
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I understand why in very special circumstances of extreme case forming one may use fillers, most case forming does not require anything besides a bullet. I have seen this subject more than I can count on internet forums and it is always about 50/50. Google the subject and you will find some horror stories of ringed chambers and rifles turned smoothbore. A bullet and friction is not what wears out a barrel, shoot the bullet and eat your filler.
I understand why in very special circumstances of extreme case forming one may use fillers, most case forming does not require anything besides a bullet. I have seen this subject more than I can count on internet forums and it is always about 50/50. Google the subject and you will find some horror stories of ringed chambers and rifles turned smoothbore. A bullet and friction is not what wears out a barrel, shoot the bullet and eat your filler.
