Suppressors first nfa item, have a question

[FullMetalJacket]

Just payed for my :
YHM
7.62 SS Qd

My question is and I semi understand it but wanted to ask for experiences.. I have spent a good amount of time around stamp collectors and have done a lot of suppressed shooting in past few years.. recently cleaning out safe I came across the select few you might shoot on a special occasion. ,but arnt exactly beater guns. well decided to sell one and made a promise that I would pay for a 308 can and start process of ownership.. a lot of research later I've ready multiple threads saying a muzzle brake adapter lessens recoil and acts as primary blast baffle in turn conserving suppressor wear.. a flash hider adapter does just that eliminating first round flashes and keeping from target identification/ locating shooter . I've heard muzzle brake can produce a pinging / hollow sound when shooting suppressed.. any experiences?

What do you guys run on your suppressed bolt gun

 

[THE MGD]

Re: first nfa item, have a question

Flash hider redirects flash from blinding the operator. Its plenty visible to everyone else.
A suppressor will hide the flash from an observing party.
The rest ill let someone else answer as I use direct thread mounts

Edit: (add) A suppressor will "hide" the flash, not make it invisible.

 

[Guest]

Re: first nfa item, have a question

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: MGD</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Flash hider redirects flash from blinding the operator. Its plenty visible to everyone else.</div></div>

Incorrect a flash hider is for the enemy's eye not the shooter.
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: MGD</div><div class="ubbcode-body">A suppressor will hide the flash from an observing party.
The rest ill let someone else answer as I use direct thread mounts
</div></div>

A can will not hide the flash from a target that is within 2-3* of the bore ctr line. A can will disperse the sound as to it's direct location.

 

[trophyhunter]

Re: first nfa item, have a question

it all depends on the type of flash hider you have that creates "pinging". I dont have much experience with YHM but with AAC the flash hider was like a tuning fork. I prefer the brake regardless as any extra "brake" on recoil helps. I also saw that on my AAC brakes it had 2 chambers. I (in my own conclusion) figured it would act as a blast baffle and save erosion on the can.

 

[Layton]

Re: first nfa item, have a question

I don't know for sure either way but I was always told a flash hider was for the shooter's vision. Not to conceal the flash. Don't really care either as I'm always on a 1 way range.

 

[Mo_Zam_Beek]

Re: first nfa item, have a question

With respect to MBs and functioning as a blast baffle - my understanding:


- Most MBs do function in this respect, however the capacity of service varies by design

- The central question is does the combination of the weapon, firing schedule, and suppressor necessitate the use of MB? (Think of the difference between an SS primary baffle and an inconnel baffle; and a full auto 10.5" 5.56 vs a 20+" .308 bolt gun)


With respect to FH and which end of the stick sees (or doesn't see) the benefit - watch a few vids of FHs shot at night. Good ones (like a BE Meyer's design) significantly reduce the flash to the shooter, but the prime benefit is what is not visible down range.


Good luck

 

[Mo_Zam_Beek]

Re: first nfa item, have a question

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Gunfighter14e2</div><div class="ubbcode-body">

A can will not hide the flash from a target that is within 2-3* of the bore ctr line. A can will disperse the sound as to it's direct location. </div></div>

An interesting (to me) vid and time study would be within those critical few degrees of the bore axis - looking at the volume and dissipation schedule associated with the flash from a single round compared to a FH. It would be more interesting to add the same as the vantage point is shifted by a few degrees off axis.

I am willing bet that the best modern designs of both FHs and cans are pretty close, with a slight advantage to FHs in terms of intensity of flash as well as duration of the event over a can in that few degrees off bore axis window, but that the advantage shifts as soon as you move away from the axis. I could be wrong.


Good luck

 

[FullMetalJacket]

Re: first nfa item, have a question

I have read about the aac cans having that tuning fork sound when coupled with the flash hider qd mount.. Id prefer to run a brake and ease the wear and tare on the new can not to mention for the times I'll shoot unsuppressed I think I would benefit more from the brake than the hider as I to also only deal with 1 direction firing range.. however the flash hider post above couldn't sound more backwards.. a hider more or less hides the operators flash signature during suppressed fire, not directing enemy to his flash signature .. its to assist in concealment of shooter not to make the flash more bearable to the trigger man of suppressed gun .. I understand the function of both muzzle devices I believe we may have strayed off course.. I wanted to know of audible differences when using one over the other in yhm cans as I've heard aac cans with flash hider emit a ring or ping inside the suppressor