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Aztec68

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A question about your stock and position when shooting, are you shooting from a bench or prone, and where is the buttpad in its vertical travel? Have you tried shooting with the buttpad adjusted up high enough that it gets your shoulder behind the bore, not below it? That will improve the felt recoil when shooting prone and possibly from the bench.
All my shooting with this rifle has been from the bench and the buttpad has been in my shoulder pocket, below the collarbone, so slightly below the bore. It's been several years so I don't remember whether I had tried adjusting the buttpad elevation but I'm going to the range next week to try the rifle out again before spending any money and I will adjust the buttpad and bring it up to be behind the bore. Like I mentioned earlier, I felt less recoil with the original stock even though it was lighter BUT the buttpad was more in line with the bore. It may be that that simple change may be all it takes. Thanks for your suggestion! I'll post back when I get a chance to try it out.
 

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Hello everyone! Greetings from the Bayou!

So I'm a new shooter just getting into dipping my feet into long range target shooting. I'm not a hunter so I'm really just looking at shooting targets with this rifle.

I currently own a Remington 700 AAC SD in .308 (20 in. barrel) that I put in a Bell and Carlson Remington 700 BDL, Varmint/Tactical Style Fully Adjustable stock (no DBM) but I'm not really fond of the recoil much. In fact, I bought this rifle back in 2015, shot it around 20-30 times and went back to my AR's because I just didn't like the recoil on the .308.

So here recently I've decided to get the rifle out of the closet and give it another shot - however I want to put a new 6.5 Creedmoor barrel on it from Criterion to dampen the recoil some or buy a new rifle.

I checked out Northland Shooters Supply and at least by math, a remage barrel and all of the tools to change it out myself would run me about $700. I've built my own AR's with good results, but I've never done anything with a bolt action except to put it in the B&C stock.

I called my local gunsmith, he has a good reputation around these parts and after talking to him, he recommended a remage barrel and also wanted to blueprint the action and "true everything up". He said this would ensure I got the most accuracy possible out of the rifle. His price for putting on the barrel and blueprinting the action etc. was $300-$400. $100 for installing the barrel and $200 for the blueprinting. He said would probably have to do a little work on the stock to accommodate the barrel nut which is why I added an extra $100 to the mix (and for incidentals). So, if I order the barrel from Northland and have him do the work I'm still looking at around the $700 mark and that is without adding a DBM.

Another option, because I've read a lot on this forum about Tikka's and I like what I've read, is to buy a new Tikka T3x CTR for $1k and dropping that in a KRG Bravo and selling my Remington 700 and B&C stock to offset the cost. If I go with the Tikka and KRG bravo I'm looking at around $1400 and I get the ability to use magazines from the get go. Not sure what I could get for the Rem and stock but thinking/hoping that after selling it I could get to somewhere around the same out of pocket expense as my first two options or am I way off base?

What would you guys advise? Thanks in advance for any responses.

John
If you like the rifle you have and the only issue is " recoil " then have your gunsmith thread the barrel and install a brake,
you'll be amazed and you'll save money............
 
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Aztec68

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If you like the rifle you have and the only issue is " recoil " then have your gunsmith thread the barrel and install a brake,
you'll be amazed and you'll save money..........

It came threaded so I guess I'll grab a brake and give that a go as well... at least until my can comes in. I plan on getting a Nomad L on it.

https://pewscience.com/sound-signature-reviews-free/sss-6-55-dead-air-nomad-l-savage-308

 

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    It came threaded so I guess I'll grab a brake and give that a go as well... at least until my can comes in. I plan on getting a Nomad L on it.

    https://pewscience.com/sound-signature-reviews-free/sss-6-55-dead-air-nomad-l-savage-308

    Once you shoot suppressed, you'll never want to shoot any other way.
    Makes my 7mm Rem Mag feel like a .243.
     
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    StLPro2A

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    Hello everyone! Greetings from the Bayou!

    So I'm a new shooter just getting into dipping my feet into long range target shooting. I'm not a hunter so I'm really just looking at shooting targets with this rifle.

    I currently own a Remington 700 AAC SD in .308 (20 in. barrel) that I put in a Bell and Carlson Remington 700 BDL, Varmint/Tactical Style Fully Adjustable stock (no DBM) but I'm not really fond of the recoil much. In fact, I bought this rifle back in 2015, shot it around 20-30 times and went back to my AR's because I just didn't like the recoil on the .308.

    So here recently I've decided to get the rifle out of the closet and give it another shot - however I want to put a new 6.5 Creedmoor barrel on it from Criterion to dampen the recoil some or buy a new rifle.

    I checked out Northland Shooters Supply and at least by math, a remage barrel and all of the tools to change it out myself would run me about $700. I've built my own AR's with good results, but I've never done anything with a bolt action except to put it in the B&C stock.

    I called my local gunsmith, he has a good reputation around these parts and after talking to him, he recommended a remage barrel and also wanted to blueprint the action and "true everything up". He said this would ensure I got the most accuracy possible out of the rifle. His price for putting on the barrel and blueprinting the action etc. was $300-$400. $100 for installing the barrel and $200 for the blueprinting. He said would probably have to do a little work on the stock to accommodate the barrel nut which is why I added an extra $100 to the mix (and for incidentals). So, if I order the barrel from Northland and have him do the work I'm still looking at around the $700 mark and that is without adding a DBM.

    Another option, because I've read a lot on this forum about Tikka's and I like what I've read, is to buy a new Tikka T3x CTR for $1k and dropping that in a KRG Bravo and selling my Remington 700 and B&C stock to offset the cost. If I go with the Tikka and KRG bravo I'm looking at around $1400 and I get the ability to use magazines from the get go. Not sure what I could get for the Rem and stock but thinking/hoping that after selling it I could get to somewhere around the same out of pocket expense as my first two options or am I way off base?

    What would you guys advise? Thanks in advance for any responses.

    John
    If recoil is the only issue, there are options to deal with that. Lighter/slower bullet gives lower recoil. Heavier rifle deals with recoil.....add weight. Recoil dampener helps tame recoil. Rifle fit to shooter is critical to taming recoil. A poorly fitting stock will beat up the shooter in any caliber. Proper shooting technique goes a long way to dealing with recoil.......position building, recoil management, etc. There are many options to taming that 308. 308 is not a heavy recoil caliber. Learning about all these points will apply to whatever you ultimately shoot. Invest in learning and technique before equipment......cheaper, better return on investment, transferable to all shooting systems.
     

    Aztec68

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    So I finally made it out to the range to give the .308 another try and see if she was accurate and if recoil was as unpleasant as I remembered.

    I used some cheap 150gr lead tipped Perfecta rounds to get on paper and get comfortable with the rife. The groups were "ok" but not that inspiring. I didn't expect too much from the ammo though so I tried some match ammo to see how it performed with that.

    I had a box of 20rnds of 168 HPBT Federal Premium Gold Medal Sierra Matchkings of which I used 9 to get the two groups below. What a difference some good ammo makes!

    After shooting the first group of 5 rnds (which was shooting way low from where the 150gr cheap ammo was shooting - see group with ruler in it) I used 1 rnd to verify my elevation adjustments and shot a second group of 4, deciding to keep the other 10 for another session - this stuff isn't cheap!

    Now bear in mind that I'm not an experienced shooter by any means, and haven't shot this rifle in 3-4 years so I was pretty darn happy with these groups! I'm going to say she's a shooter and the recoil wasn't as bad as I remember so I'm thinking I'll keep it and put a PVA Jet4 on it until my Dead Air Nomad-L arrives. I also ordered some Sierra 168's and Berger 168's and some Lapua brass to work up some loads. Primers are harder to find. I have a few hundred large rifle primers but need to find some more - any good sources?

    As a side note, I don't get why people crap on Remington 700's so much. This rifle was bought in 2015 so it was before the 2020 bankruptcy so maybe it was made before they started putting out crap? All I know is that this particular one shoots pretty well given the right ammo. It's a Rem 700 SPS AAC-SD with a 20in threaded barrel with a 1/10 twist.
     

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    sparky702

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    I have the same rifle . I dropped mine in a B&C m40-A1 stock and installed a timney elite hunter .What I discovered was I had picked up to many bad habit's shooting my 6.5 creedmoor . It also is a 700 Remington that I installed a 26 inch .936 barrel along with an odin works muzzle break and have a vortex gen 2 razor on top and I have a krg bravo chassis . recoil is nothing and I find myself getting sloppy . Just work on your fundamentals and take a bit more time getting into a solid shooting position and I think you will be happy .