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FL is getting dangerous

I would never, ever, ever canoe or kayak in lake Kissimmee.
I've been on that water in 22' boats and some of the big bull gators would actually come towards the boat.
Not sure if it's due to idiots feeding them, or if they have learned to steal hooked fish from the line.

That lake and also lake Hancock are totally polluted with gators.

Here's two hours worth of gator hunting on Hancock.

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I would never, ever, ever canoe or kayak in lake Kissimmee.
I've been on that water in 22' boats and some of the big bull gators would actually come towards the boat.
Not sure if it's due to idiots feeding them, or if they have learned to steal hooked fish from the line.

That lake and also lake Hancock are totally polluted with gators.

Here's two hours worth of gator hunting on Hancock.

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Yeah, that's a no go for me without even knowing much about the area.
 
I would never, ever, ever canoe or kayak in lake Kissimmee.
I've been on that water in 22' boats and some of the big bull gators would actually come towards the boat.
Not sure if it's due to idiots feeding them, or if they have learned to steal hooked fish from the line.

That lake and also lake Hancock are totally polluted with gators.

Here's two hours worth of gator hunting on Hancock.

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I don’t know much (anything) about Lake Kissimmee, but they say you can walk across Texas’ Caddo Lake without getting wet; just sorta hopping from gator to gator. 😳🤣
 
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we got a lot of critters here that can F up your day. we got rattlers,moccasins,corals,pythons,anacondas,monitors,cudas,sting rays,lion fish,sturgeons,a big bunch of sharks and a whole bunch of gators. encourages caution but not panicky fear. this kind of death is a tragedy. doesn't seem like it was anything except an accidental happening. maybe could have been avoided? who can know? but for myself i just think that the presence of dangerous potential encounters makes one appreciate the few wild areas that are still left. keeps life real
as said elsewhere on here,you have a much better chance of being killed or maimed in any city in the country by the criminals that are allowed to run rampant and unchecked.
 
this is also breeding season. they are a bit more irritable. they are really irritable when they are guarding a nest with eggs or new ones.
forgot to say we also have caimans,an active breeding pop in the glades at least. back in the day people would buy baby gators for pets. at about 3ft they weren't cute anymore. they'd get turned loose in the wild, but,they weren't gators. selling that was illegal. so caimans got imported live and sold at road side tourist traps before the interstates got built.
have heard stories,likely urban legends,about baby gator bought for pets getting flushed into NYC sewer system. and they grew huge eating all the rats down there.
 
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we got a lot of critters here that can F up your day. we got rattlers,moccasins,corals,pythons,anacondas,monitors,cudas,sting rays,lion fish,sturgeons,a big bunch of sharks and a whole bunch of gators. encourages caution but not panicky fear. this kind of death is a tragedy. doesn't seem like it was anything except an accidental happening. maybe could have been avoided? who can know? but for myself i just think that the presence of dangerous potential encounters makes one appreciate the few wild areas that are still left. keeps life real
as said elsewhere on here,you have a much better chance of being killed or maimed in any city in the country by the criminals that are allowed to run rampant and unchecked.

So you are saying that Florida is our own little Australia, where everything is trying to kill you?

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Hello Fla leadership, when you keep building cookie cutter housing for out of state FNG's, and pushing your unchecked wilds into a smaller foot print, would you expect anything different? This growing pain issue was well known back in the 70-80's but knowing which palms to grease caused it to be shelved many times over,...
 
Hello Fla leadership, when you keep building cookie cutter housing for out of state FNG's, and pushing your unchecked wilds into a smaller foot print, would you expect anything different? This growing pain issue was well known back in the 70-80's but knowing which palms to grease caused it to be shelved many times over,...

Not to mention protecting gators and other things to the point of overpopulation… and allowing an explosion of invasive species, the main one of which is snowbirds…

Sirhr
 
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Gators in the South are still protected (some hunting allowed) but they have become so numerous that they no longer need any protection at all IMO. They are a threat and a nusiance, and we should be allowed to eliminate them when they become a threat without consequence.
 
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A few years ago my kids and I were on vacation at one of the coastal parks and were kayaking. An 8-10' gator kept bumping my canoe and making this vibrating noise. I whacked it with an oar seversl times to get it to bug off. A park ranger starts yelling at me not to hit them, I offered to shoot it instead. He was super pissed when we finally got back to camp and told me that the gator was not being aggressive it was performing a mating ritual. I explained I wad not interested in mating with a gator or being eaten by one. He did not seem to find the same humor
 
A few years ago my kids and I were on vacation at one of the coastal parks and were kayaking. An 8-10' gator kept bumping my canoe and making this vibrating noise. I whacked it with an oar seversl times to get it to bug off. A park ranger starts yelling at me not to hit them, I offered to shoot it instead. He was super pissed when we finally got back to camp and told me that the gator was not being aggressive it was performing a mating ritual. I explained I wad not interested in mating with a gator or being eaten by one. He did not seem to find the same humor
Tell the park ranger that if someone on the street started a mating ritual with your kids, they’d end up in a wood chipper. A swat with an oar is getting off light.
 
Hello Fla leadership, when you keep building cookie cutter housing for out of state FNG's, and pushing your unchecked wilds into a smaller foot print, would you expect anything different? This growing pain issue was well known back in the 70-80's but knowing which palms to grease caused it to be shelved many times over,...
exactly. i saw the huge residential and accompanying commercial burst in Tampa in the 80s,Orlando in the 90s, seeing it now in Gainesville,Manatee,Collier and Sarasota counties. i am sure same in Duval but i avoid that like the plague. the corruption,kickbacks and payoffs are well known but no one ever gets charged or arrested. like everything the gov is deep into the fix.
 
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Not to mention protecting gators and other things to the point of overpopulation… and allowing an explosion of invasive species, the main one of which is snowbirds…

Sirhr
right on! i think the deal with gators is the usual corruption. at my age,the only state license i can't get for asking is gators. hunting is by permit by restricted areas. can't interfer with the profit angle. gator meat is openly marketed by licensed commercial hunters. i think the permits go to the sheriff's brother in law etc. there was a pic on here of about 10 gators from Polk co i think. showed the commercial vehicle and a sheriff vehicle (?). not sure what that means. same thing applies to jewfish. was over killed then protected and now are way over populated. the red snapper story is another one.
 
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exactly. i saw the huge residential and accompanying commercial burst in Tampa in the 80s,Orlando in the 90s, seeing it now in Gainesville,Manatee,Collier and Sarasota counties. i am sure same in Duval but i avoid that like the plague. the corruption,kickbacks and payoffs are well known but no one ever gets charged or arrested. like everything the gov is deep into the fix.
When they built that shit called Carpenters Run,(great name & properly so) north of Tampa and east of the road to no where, I about died laughing. The wife ask what I was laughing about, then I explained Oh its just a minor issue, having Cypress knees 3-4' tall 10 foot from your back door.
 
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lived in orig Carrollwood from age 13-about 21. the things from back then that are gone forever are legion. seems like 1 reason we have to import citrus fro SA. orange groves of 60 yr ago are paved over. a lot of places to fish are closed off by million $ properties. there are crowded 4 lane roads that just didn't exist back even in the 80s. it's just crazy the way that area has changed. i know people who can tell the same stories about many other places in the state.
 
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lived in orig Carrollwood from age 13-about 21. the things from back then that are gone forever are legion. seems like 1 reason we have to import citrus fro SA. orange groves of 60 yr ago are paved over. a lot of places to fish are closed off by million $ properties. there are crowded 4 lane roads that just didn't exist back even in the 80s. it's just crazy the way that area has changed. i know people who can tell the same stories about many other places in the state.
We jump the Fla ship in 1993 because of all the B/S that was going on back then. Returned on our 30th wedding anniversary (2004) to go to Micky world where I had ask her to marry me. We were both shocked at all the changes. Can't even begin to think whats its like now. Spent all our times in Pasco & Sumter Co's, but my work was all over the state. Hate to know what its like south of state road 70, or Hwy 50 for that matter,...
 
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when i left Tampa in '88 Sumter Co was considered the white trash capital of central FL by many in Alachua,Lake and Marion. the villages has kept it the fastest growing county in the country for > 10 years. Marion has been #1 as well. villages is a hard to believe development when you see it.
 
when i left Tampa in '88 Sumter Co was considered the white trash capital of central FL by many in Alachua,Lake and Marion. the villages has kept it the fastest growing county in the country for > 10 years. Marion has been #1 as well. villages is a hard to believe development when you see it.
I'll have you know we were upper with trash,..LOL Called Bushnell home from 80-87, & Dade City 74-80 & 87-93. Yep, there is some lower class white trash in Sumter Co for sure, but I'd take white trash of any level vs anything from the Villages, from what I know about that place. I recall some very bad places in Lake co back in the 70's but the worst I seen in my years down there was Florida city. When they say they love their sister, they mean it. Many, Many out of bound things, went on there 24/7,...
 
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right on! i think the deal with gators is the usual corruption. at my age,the only state license i can't get for asking is gators. hunting is by permit by restricted areas. can't interfer with the profit angle. gator meat is openly marketed by licensed commercial hunters. i think the permits go to the sheriff's brother in law etc. there was a pic on here of about 10 gators from Polk co i think. showed the commercial vehicle and a sheriff vehicle (?). not sure what that means. same thing applies to jewfish. was over killed then protected and now are way over populated. the red snapper story is another one.

You completely missed the mark on the gator hunt in Polk County.
This was a hunt for disabled veterans and no-one else.
The PCSO vehicles were loaned to the veteran group as support and lodging.
Nothing you said about the gator hunt had even a shed of truth to it.
This is how bullshit rumors and outright lies and disinformation happen.
You owe an apology to Grady Judd, all of the volunteer Forest Service workers, the volunteer helpers, guides, cooks and last but not least, the disabled veterans that were part of the hunt.


The other things you voiced your opinion on have a lot of truth to them.
 
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i was just reffering to how people responded to patients from Sumter in places i worked per diem. was a total newbie to that part of FL. the town i live in now i thought to be totally way low class-not the casereally just lower to mid middle class like where is was from as a kid. the real low life winning some places is out in the Ocala nat'l forrest. that has some edgy places.
 
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when i left Tampa in '88 Sumter Co was considered the white trash capital of central FL by many in Alachua,Lake and Marion. the villages has kept it the fastest growing county in the country for > 10 years. Marion has been #1 as well. villages is a hard to believe development when you see it.
The Villages is a place I’ve very much avoided. It is the hilarious modern version of sodom and gamora. VD capital here in these parts.
 
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indeed. gotta say i see why in some ways. played in a few bridge tourneys there and in Sarasota. has been about 5-6 years though. you have never seen as many really good looking women > 60 yo. if you are 50 or less no appeal but if > 60 different story. those all were dressed and jeweled high end and obviously had serious resources from some place. likely some time in an OR as well.
but the villages has had the VD prize in US on several occasions.
 
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