I have a 1911 style pistol with no rail mounts and I want to attach a flashlight to the pistol. What do I do?
I am not buying a new pistol!
I am not buying a new pistol!
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Re: Flashlight attached to a pistol question!
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: frog5215</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Duct tape? </div></div>
LOL, I did not except that response.
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: frog5215</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Duct tape? </div></div>
LOL, I did not except that response.
Re: Flashlight attached to a pistol question!
Well, you have a couple of options:
1) Add a rail to your pistol...the Novak rail is arguably the best looking/fitting option available, but there are others out there. Have a look here:
http://www.novaksights.com/novak%201911%20tactical%20light%20rail.html
I have been to Wayne Novak's shop on several ocassions and own a couple of his pistols (his shop is <2hrs from me here in WV). His work and the custom products he offers are first class all the way.
2) Learn to deploy a handheld light in your weak hand (non-gun hand), and don't use the weapon-mounted light at all. I don't want to start a battle between weapon-mounted and non-weapon-mounted light options...both have their place. But not everyone really needs a weapon-mounted light.
Good luck!
Well, you have a couple of options:
1) Add a rail to your pistol...the Novak rail is arguably the best looking/fitting option available, but there are others out there. Have a look here:
http://www.novaksights.com/novak%201911%20tactical%20light%20rail.html
I have been to Wayne Novak's shop on several ocassions and own a couple of his pistols (his shop is <2hrs from me here in WV). His work and the custom products he offers are first class all the way.
2) Learn to deploy a handheld light in your weak hand (non-gun hand), and don't use the weapon-mounted light at all. I don't want to start a battle between weapon-mounted and non-weapon-mounted light options...both have their place. But not everyone really needs a weapon-mounted light.
Good luck!
Re: Flashlight attached to a pistol question!
A weapon mounted light should NOT be your only white light option. IF a weapon mounted light is your only option you are breaking the 4 rules of weapons handeling every time you use the light.
A weapon mounted light should NOT be your only white light option. IF a weapon mounted light is your only option you are breaking the 4 rules of weapons handeling every time you use the light.
Re: Flashlight attached to a pistol question!
Actually, if you are illuminating a person with a pistol-mounted light, you can generally illuminate enough of him to see what you need to see by pointing the light at his feet, with the sights not on the person.
But I agree that a weapon-mounted light should not be your only option. Lights break, and like a pistol, when you need one, you <span style="font-style: italic">really</span> need one, so you should have another.
Actually, if you are illuminating a person with a pistol-mounted light, you can generally illuminate enough of him to see what you need to see by pointing the light at his feet, with the sights not on the person.
But I agree that a weapon-mounted light should not be your only option. Lights break, and like a pistol, when you need one, you <span style="font-style: italic">really</span> need one, so you should have another.
Re: Flashlight attached to a pistol question!
Dawson Litespeed Rail.
It will still work with many standard holsters when the light is removed, and the adapter will work with Surefire lights.
I contemplated adding one to my Commander, but I usually carry a Surefire L2 and didn't want to worry about carrying a weaponlight too. At some point you end up just carrying too much crap off-duty.
My G21SF that I use for work always has my M3 attached. ALWAYS have a secondary light source and don't point your weapon at anything you don't intend to shoot.
Dawson Litespeed Rail.
It will still work with many standard holsters when the light is removed, and the adapter will work with Surefire lights.
I contemplated adding one to my Commander, but I usually carry a Surefire L2 and didn't want to worry about carrying a weaponlight too. At some point you end up just carrying too much crap off-duty.
My G21SF that I use for work always has my M3 attached. ALWAYS have a secondary light source and don't point your weapon at anything you don't intend to shoot.
Re: Flashlight attached to a pistol question!
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Lindy</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Actually, if you are illuminating a person with a pistol-mounted light, you can generally illuminate enough of him to see what you need to see by pointing the light at his feet, with the sights not on the person.
But I agree that a weapon-mounted light should not be your only option. Lights break, and like a pistol, when you need one, you <span style="font-style: italic">really</span> need one, so you should have another.
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Lindy, does your light mount above the sights?
I would agree that it is possible to light someone up without putting the light directly on their chest. But if you only have the light on the weapon and clear a room with that light you are pointing your weapon at all kinds of stuff that you might not be willing to destroy.
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Lindy</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Actually, if you are illuminating a person with a pistol-mounted light, you can generally illuminate enough of him to see what you need to see by pointing the light at his feet, with the sights not on the person.
But I agree that a weapon-mounted light should not be your only option. Lights break, and like a pistol, when you need one, you <span style="font-style: italic">really</span> need one, so you should have another.
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Lindy, does your light mount above the sights?
I would agree that it is possible to light someone up without putting the light directly on their chest. But if you only have the light on the weapon and clear a room with that light you are pointing your weapon at all kinds of stuff that you might not be willing to destroy.
Re: Flashlight attached to a pistol question!
The lights are mounted in the conventional fashion just below the barrel.
If you are actually clearing a structure which is not your own house, though, in conditions where you need a light to see, you're <span style="text-decoration: underline"><span style="font-style: italic">going</span></span> to be pointing a weapon at things which you don't want to shoot. That's just an inevitable fact.
That's true even if you are using a handheld light. You just have to point the light and the weapon in about the same direction, in order to be ready to engage a potential threat, and you obviously don't have a good idea what you're going to find.
People who have a job which involves doing that would be well advised to get training on target identification and discrimination, and to practice that skill in an environment where mistakes will not be tragic.
I don't have that kind of job, and when investigating "bumps in the night", I carry both kinds of light.
The lights are mounted in the conventional fashion just below the barrel.
If you are actually clearing a structure which is not your own house, though, in conditions where you need a light to see, you're <span style="text-decoration: underline"><span style="font-style: italic">going</span></span> to be pointing a weapon at things which you don't want to shoot. That's just an inevitable fact.
That's true even if you are using a handheld light. You just have to point the light and the weapon in about the same direction, in order to be ready to engage a potential threat, and you obviously don't have a good idea what you're going to find.
People who have a job which involves doing that would be well advised to get training on target identification and discrimination, and to practice that skill in an environment where mistakes will not be tragic.
I don't have that kind of job, and when investigating "bumps in the night", I carry both kinds of light.
Re: Flashlight attached to a pistol question!
Lindy, Im just giving you a hard time about the light being above the sights.
You said that you could point the light at his feet to illuminate him but the sights not on target ..... light on his feet and sights 2 inches above where the light mounts still puts sights on target, not necessarilly in a letal way, but it does keep sights on target.
Im not a door kicker or someone who does do building clearing. But someone who doesnt do it on a regular basis and is only wanting a light on their weapon for clearing their own house and things that go bump in the night at their own place wouldnt need to light up everything.
In the training that I have taken in the past ive learned that using a light improperly will get you killed just as fast as not having a light.
Lindy, Im just giving you a hard time about the light being above the sights.
You said that you could point the light at his feet to illuminate him but the sights not on target ..... light on his feet and sights 2 inches above where the light mounts still puts sights on target, not necessarilly in a letal way, but it does keep sights on target.
Im not a door kicker or someone who does do building clearing. But someone who doesnt do it on a regular basis and is only wanting a light on their weapon for clearing their own house and things that go bump in the night at their own place wouldnt need to light up everything.
In the training that I have taken in the past ive learned that using a light improperly will get you killed just as fast as not having a light.
Re: Flashlight attached to a pistol question!
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Quote:</div><div class="ubbcode-body">...light on his feet and sights 2 inches above where the light mounts still puts sights on target, not necessarilly in a letal way, but it does keep sights on target.</div></div>
I'm afraid that your comment displays your lack of experience in using gun-mounted lights at night.
The pool of light from a gun light is <span style="font-weight: bold"><span style="text-decoration: underline">much</span></span> bigger than the mechanical offset of the sights. With a bright light pointed at the ground in front of a person, there is enough bounce of light to illuminate the person quite well enough to see if they are a threat - without having the sights on the person.
Try it some night.
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Quote:</div><div class="ubbcode-body">...light on his feet and sights 2 inches above where the light mounts still puts sights on target, not necessarilly in a letal way, but it does keep sights on target.</div></div>
I'm afraid that your comment displays your lack of experience in using gun-mounted lights at night.
The pool of light from a gun light is <span style="font-weight: bold"><span style="text-decoration: underline">much</span></span> bigger than the mechanical offset of the sights. With a bright light pointed at the ground in front of a person, there is enough bounce of light to illuminate the person quite well enough to see if they are a threat - without having the sights on the person.
Try it some night.
Re: Flashlight attached to a pistol question!
If you run a weapon light SEEK TRAINING.
There are GOBS of points and techniques to weaponlights that exceed the scope of this thread.
I work at night. 90% of the time I draw my weapon I am using my weaponlight.
If you run a weapon light SEEK TRAINING.
There are GOBS of points and techniques to weaponlights that exceed the scope of this thread.
I work at night. 90% of the time I draw my weapon I am using my weaponlight.
Re: Flashlight attached to a pistol question!
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: nock</div><div class="ubbcode-body">I have a 1911 style pistol with no rail mounts and I want to attach a flashlight to the pistol. What do I do?
I am not buying a new pistol!</div></div>
http://www.surefire.com/maxexp/main...=6&prrfnbr=23518&sesent=0,0&search_id=2022009
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: nock</div><div class="ubbcode-body">I have a 1911 style pistol with no rail mounts and I want to attach a flashlight to the pistol. What do I do?
I am not buying a new pistol!</div></div>
http://www.surefire.com/maxexp/main...=6&prrfnbr=23518&sesent=0,0&search_id=2022009
Re: Flashlight attached to a pistol question!
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: doorkicker</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: nock</div><div class="ubbcode-body">I have a 1911 style pistol with no rail mounts and I want to attach a flashlight to the pistol. What do I do?
I am not buying a new pistol!</div></div>
http://www.surefire.com/maxexp/main...=6&prrfnbr=23518&sesent=0,0&search_id=2022009
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You are the winner!!! MR 07 and the DG 17 with the Surefire X400.
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: doorkicker</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: nock</div><div class="ubbcode-body">I have a 1911 style pistol with no rail mounts and I want to attach a flashlight to the pistol. What do I do?
I am not buying a new pistol!</div></div>
http://www.surefire.com/maxexp/main...=6&prrfnbr=23518&sesent=0,0&search_id=2022009
You are the winner!!! MR 07 and the DG 17 with the Surefire X400.
Re: Flashlight attached to a pistol question!
I like the DG switches, but be weary that white-light NDs can occur pretty easily with them. I've had a couple "F*CKEN MORON" comments rightfully hurled my way when I white-light ND'd at an inopportune time.
I like the DG switches, but be weary that white-light NDs can occur pretty easily with them. I've had a couple "F*CKEN MORON" comments rightfully hurled my way when I white-light ND'd at an inopportune time.
